Voldemort vs. Gandalf the White

Originally posted by quanchi112
The film creators say he is the most powerful wizard in all of existence. 🙂

He was left powerless in that scene just as Saruman was. Saruman didn't live past the scene whereas Gandalf did since the Witch King left him. Aren't you smart enough to figure anything out on your own. Your bias is disturbing.

I don't ignore the context of anything whereas you ignore the context of everything. Voldemort also has a superior ranged game and greater feats of power along with reflexes.

Amazing. But he's the most powerful dark wizard in HP. You won't be able to handle this.

So powerless he rebuilt his stave. We explicitly hear that Suruman has no power. Comparing the two as being the same is nothing more than dishonestly to force a win for your favorite. You should really watch LoTR extended cut though.

Lame, another "no you" type of response to dodge. Shit was boring in 2013.

Originally posted by Robtard
Amazing. But he's the most powerful dark wizard in HP. You won't be able to handle this.

So powerless he rebuilt his stave. We explicitly hear that Suruman has no power. Comparing the two as being the same is nothing more than dishonestly to force a win for your favorite. You should really watch LoTR extended cut though.

Lame, another "no you" type of response to dodge. Shit was boring in 2013.

Due to his stave being destroyed so his magical conduit left him powerless in that scene just like Gandalf. Losses for both. Gandalf sat back for over fifteen seconds to wait for the Witch King to do so which is a really poor reflex.

Voldemort has superior ranged game, can fly, apparate, and one shot kill him with Ak. He has too many advantages for Gandalf to even compete.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So the most powerful dark wizard and as well as wizard in general.

Due to his stave being destroyed so his magical conduit left him powerless in that scene just like Gandalf. Losses for both. Gandalf sat back for over fifteen seconds to wait for the Witch King to do so which is a really poor reflex.

Voldemort has superior ranged game, can fly, apparate, and one shot kill him with Ak. He has too many advantages for Gandalf to even compete.

The only reason that Gandalf does not use much of his powers is because the Valar prohibited the Maia from directly attacking and defeating Sauron. Instead the Maia were only allowed to guide mankind to defeat Sauron. Whilst Voldemort has an incredible arsenal, Fiendfyre may not work very well at all against Gandalf since he has been shown to have easily withstood a blast of fire Saruman used against him with not marks left at all before proceeding to shatter Saruman's staff without lifting a finger. Now Saruman is a Maia so withstanding his attacks and breaking his weapon is VERY hard but Gandalf easily managed it as Gandalf the White.That being said, Voldemort's wand would shatter before Gandalf deals a devastating shockwave moves that has destroyed legions.

We all know Gandalf wins. You didn't have to necro this thread

Originally posted by King Ghidorah
The only reason that Gandalf does not use much of his powers is because the Valar prohibited the Maia from directly attacking and defeating Sauron. Instead the Maia were only allowed to guide mankind to defeat Sauron. Whilst Voldemort has an incredible arsenal, Fiendfyre may not work very well at all against Gandalf since he has been shown to have easily withstood a blast of fire Saruman used against him with not marks left at all before proceeding to shatter Saruman's staff without lifting a finger. Now Saruman is a Maia so withstanding his attacks and breaking his weapon is VERY hard but Gandalf easily managed it as Gandalf the White.That being said, Voldemort's wand would shatter before Gandalf deals a devastating shockwave moves that has destroyed legions.

Saruman was killed by Wormtail so let us kindly get off Gandalf's old homosexual prick. Gandalf was soundly defeated by him prior to his upgrade. Gandalf is more powerful than Saruman. That isn't saying much. Gandalf is not more powerful than Voldemort. Gandalf also had his staff easily broken by the Witch King. Fire easily defeated the witch King in the form of a common torch. Not very impressed I must say.

Voldemort has two curses which will defeat Gandalf who has no defense against. Avada Kedavra and Crucio. Ranged combat. The large blast Gandalf used on the
Goblins did not defeat nor destroy them. It simply knocked them back.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
We all know Gandalf wins. You didn't have to necro this thread

Voldemort clearly wins.

Anyone disagree ?

I guess it's final that Voldemort wins as per my online dominance.

Voldemort does win. Death spell, mind control, transmutation..those are just a few options.

In the Harry Potter universe I think Merlin is far above Voldermort from observations and many other discussions and even above Dumbledore maybe even put together.
But Voldermort is obviously going to defeat absolutely any wizard except Harry Potter being the only person whom can sense and locate the Horcruxes/souls. No one else can technically kill Voldermort without Harry Potter finding the 7 souls of Voldermort and a way to destroy them sufficiently, that being said Gandalf is by far more powerful than anyone in the HP wizarding world that I know of first hand though I could be wrong but he's certainly in a league of his own to the likes of Voldermort, even if Voldy couldn't phase, hit or hurt Gandalf as the killing curse is the only way to put Gandalfs lights out then if that were to fail i'm going to say Gandalf would kill him over and over and over again Voldermort wouldn't actually die so he'd probably just win from Gandalf dying of old age, or he'd straight out kill Gandalf. It depends how the fight happens, but Voldermort wins in the long term due to immortality with no way of tracing his souls.

Books gandalf is pretty good, but movie gandalf relies way more on his sword than magic. Tom should win.

Originally posted by Emperor Kronos
In the Harry Potter universe I think Merlin is far above Voldermort from observations and many other discussions and even above Dumbledore maybe even put together.

What observations?

But Voldermort is obviously going to defeat absolutely any wizard except Harry Potter being the only person whom can sense and locate the Horcruxes/souls. No one else can technically kill Voldermort without Harry Potter finding the 7 souls of Voldermort and a way to destroy them sufficiently

What are you talking about? If Harry could "sense" the horcruxes then the parts of the books he spends just trying to find the location of these objects do not make any sense at all. He also certainly wasn't the only person capable of finding them. Anyone could have found them if they knew where to look, they were not protected by some "everyone but Harry Potter" defensive spell.

Harry comes nowhere near Voldemort in magical skill. He survived because of luck, deus ex machina's, more powerful friends helping, and powerful magical artifacts. Oh and the sheer stupidity of Voldemort at some parts.

that being said Gandalf is by far more powerful than anyone in the HP wizarding world that I know of first hand

Lol what do you mean that you know of "first hand"?

though I could be wrong but he's certainly in a league of his own to the likes of Voldermort, even if Voldy couldn't phase, hit or hurt Gandalf as the killing curse is the only way to put Gandalfs lights out then if that were to fail i'm going to say Gandalf would kill him over and over and over again Voldermort wouldn't actually die so he'd probably just win from Gandalf dying of old age, or he'd straight out kill Gandalf. It depends how the fight happens, but Voldermort wins in the long term due to immortality with no way of tracing his souls.

The sheer versatility of what Voldemort is capable of puts him above Gandalf to me. There are beings more powerful than Voldemort in the LOTR universe, but Gandalf isn't really one of them. Physically speaking, yes Gandalf is hilariously above Voldemort. But death magics, mind control, transmutation, dark magical fire, etc. as well as the ability to teleport around..kind of put this in Voldemort's favor.