Originally posted by Firefly218Saruman's attacks were not useless nor were Sauron's or the Witch King's. Your opinion is based on nothing and ignores the movies themselves.
Voldemorts ranged attacks are useless against gandalfs shield and Gandalf is clearly superior in close range combat. I honestly can't see volde winning even once. Gandalf 10/10
Originally posted by EstacadoGandalf seems highly resistant to fire but the fireball looked quite tame in comparison to the fifty foot snake Voldemort created.
Saruman blasted Gandalf with a fireball and his shield auto blocked it after he made Saruman's staff explode....
Witch king caused Gandalf the Whites staff to explode.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort also has these powers. Gandalf also had his staff broken as well. He destroyed Saruman's staff who was inferior to him and was banished from his order.Gandalf used light in order to cloud their vision and blocking arrows is easily done by Potter wizards. Look at Umbridge. Pedestrian but something you exaggerate.
Good point, Gandalf the White would just assplode Voldemort's wand since he's the greater wizard with many lifetimes of experience 👆
If you actually watch the clip, both Legolas' and Gimli's attack would have struck true. Potter wizards make a shield to block arrows in a given area, iirc. That's far different than what Gandolf did, slapping aside two attacks with his staff while using pyrokinesis. Of course all you have is trying to undersell Gandalf's epicness.
Originally posted by RobtardHe can't fly kill with a magical spell like Voldemort, etc.
Good point, Gandalf the White would just explode Voldemort's wand since he's the greater wizard with many lifetimes of experience 👆If you actually watch the clip, both Legolas' and Gimli's attack would have struck true. Potter wizards make a shield to block arrows in a given area, iirc. That's far different than what Gandolf did. Of course all you have is trying to undersell Gandalf's epicness.
Gandalf had his staff destroyed. The only staff he destroyed was the one he replaced in the order as the new White. 😂
Blocking an arrow is nothing extraordinary but to Gandalf it somehow becomes legendary. Save it. Umbridge craps on that feat and doesn't have to shine bright light to addle their vision.
This is the same guy who has thrown pine cones while hiding up a tree from a small band of orcs and monsters. This is your epic wizard.
And either will Voldermort after he's dead.
You're the one that brought up 'more powerful wizards exploding staves'. Don't cry now that it was turned against you. Incorrect again, Gandalf also recreated his stave after the Witch King destroyed it, watch the film already; preferaably the extended version.
To you anything Gandalf does isn't "extraordinary", it's your only tactic here. Downplaying.
Gandalf the White > Voldermort. Deal with it already.
Originally posted by RobtardVoldemort is too formidable to be beaten here by Gandalf.
And either will Voldermort after he's dead.You're the one that brought up 'more powerful wizards exploding staves'. Don't cry now that it was turned against you. Incorrect again, Gandalf also recreated his stave after the Witch King destroyed it, watch the film already; preferaably the extended version.
To you anything Gandalf does isn't "extraordinary", it's your only tactic here. Downplaying.
Gandalf the White > Voldermort. Deal with it already.
Well, we can't ignore Gandalf's words now can we ? He destroyed Saruman's staff. Witch King also destroyed Gandalf's staff. Gandalf can't recreate it in battle nor did he against the Witch King. The bias runs deep in you.
Gandalf's hand to hand fighting against the Balrog was but his wizardry powers are sorely lacking.
Originally posted by Lestov16
YouTube videoHmm. Impressive shit. I may give Gandolph Lundgren the win here. Based on that scene, IDK WTF Vold could hit him with. I'll say Dalf 8/10, with a 2/10 chance that Vold can port behind him and AK him.
Note that literal flash step at 1:30. Also, movie Sauron seems a lot more hardcore in this form than I recall in the books. But book Gandalf would crap all over his movie self anyways.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort is too formidable to be beaten here by Gandalf.Well, we can't ignore Gandalf's words now can we ? He destroyed Saruman's staff. Witch King also destroyed Gandalf's staff. Gandalf can't recreate it in battle nor did he against the Witch King. The bias runs deep in you.
Gandalf's hand to hand fighting against the Balrog was but his wizardry powers are sorely lacking.
An assertion that you have yet to prove.
What are you talking about, watch the extended cut of the film already. Regardless, what is your point, that Voldermort is going to break Gandalf's stave with a word now as Gandalf did to Sarumon? 😂
They're enough to destroy Voldermort, as shown.
Originally posted by RobtardVoldemort would break it with a blast. Watch how the shield fared against a pissed off Voldemort.
An assertion that you have yet to prove.What are you talking about, watch the extended cut of the film already. Regardless, what is your point, that Voldermort is going to break Gandalf's stave with a word now as Gandalf did to Sarumon? 😂
They're enough to destroy Voldermort, as shown.
No, it wasn't enough to defeat the Witch King who is weak to fire.
Voldemort wins. Gandalf was 1-2 against magical users who didn't fight hand to hand.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort would break it with a blast. Watch how the shield fared against a pissed off Voldemort.No, it wasn't enough to defeat the Witch King who is weak to fire.
Voldemort wins. Gandalf was 1-2 against magical users who didn't fight hand to hand.
Another ascertain stated without proof. On the other hand, we do see Gandalf break a magical stave with just a few words; he could likely break a skinny little wand that some kid can break by accident by just burping.
More of your A-B failed logic. Superman is weak to Kyptonite, by your fail-logic Khan can defeat him because Khan isn't weak to kryptonite.
You have yet to show how. Gandalf the White has a great record, you should watch the films and stop using just the lowest feats from his 'Grey' incarnation. ie stop being a biased clown 🙂
Originally posted by RobtardWell his stave was broken and Voldemort's shield destructive blast feat is insanely impressive.
Another ascertain stated without proof. On the other hand, we do see Gandalf break a magical stave with just a few words; he could likely break a skinny little wand that some kid can break by accident by just burping.More of your A-B failed logic. Superman is weak to Kyptonite, by your fail-logic Khan can defeat him because Khan isn't weak to kryptonite.
You have yet to show how. Gandalf the White has a great record, you should watch the films and stop using just the lowest feats from his 'Grey' incarnation. ie stop being a biased clown 🙂
Well, it is an easily exploitable weakness a wizard should have no problem exploiting. There probably weren't any pine cones to burn around.
Gandalf is 1-1 then. He still lost to the Witch King and beat Saruman.
It is funny to hear Gandalf supporters rant and rave over his Grey feats and cry like sissies when you throw his lower showings. Hypocrite.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Well his stave was broken and Voldemort's shield destructive blast feat is insanely impressive.Well, it is an easily exploitable weakness a wizard should have no problem exploiting. There probably weren't any pine cones to burn around.
Gandalf is 1-1 then. He still lost to the Witch King and beat Saruman.
It is funny to hear Gandalf supporters rant and rave over his Grey feats and cry like sissies when you throw his lower showings. Hypocrite.
Amazingly lame logic. Did you also forget that there were shitloads of other wizards attacking the shield as well over Hogwarts? Just like you to ignore that and try and give your precious all the glory; not on my watch.
If you set Voldermort's robe on fire, he'd notice too. But the Witch King isn't in this match.
He didn't lose to the Witch King, as they didn't really fight. They were about to fight, but it never happened.
We go with highest feats here, otherwise we have no base. You know this, since you always insist on going with highest feats for your favorite, while insisting the person you want to see lose go with their lowest. Otherwise Voldermort got his ass handed to him by a student-wizard who Gandalf would wreck and that's that. Check to the mother****ing mate, kid. You tried 🙂
Originally posted by RobtardThat even goes to show how utterly astonishing the feat truly is. Hundreds of wizards didn't do it but Voldemort did in mere moments. That is how powerful he is
Amazingly lame logic. Did you also forget that there were shitloads of other wizards attacking the shield as well over Hogwarts? Just like you to ignore that and try and give your precious all the glory; not on my watch.If you set Voldermort's robe on fire, he'd notice too. But the Witch King isn't in this match.
He didn't lose to the Witch King, as they didn't really fight. They were about to fight, but it never happened.
We go with highest feats here, otherwise we have no base. You know this, since you always insist on going with highest feats for your favorite, while insisting the person you want to see lose go with their lowest. Otherwise Voldermort got his ass handed to him by a student-wizard who Gandalf would wreck and that's that. Check to the mother****ing mate, kid. You tried 🙂
Voldemort can merely gesture fire away and he isn't letting some foolish warrior do so in the first place.
Witch King rendered Gandalf impotent and left. By your logic Gandalf never defeated Saruman. 😂
No, we go with all showings. Only selecting certain showings implies bias and cherry picking.
Voldemort defeated Harry.
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Originally posted by EstacadoHarry had Dumbledore save him along with various adults the entire saga. Voldemort did defeat Harry, Harry also fled from Voldemort which counts as another loss, etc. At this point it is obvious you never even saw the films. Weren't they released in your small country ?
Nah Voldemort didnt defeat Harry....he lost he is a complete failure.
Outsmarted and bested by teenagers what a truly lame villain.
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Originally posted by EstacadoVoldemort defeated Harry. I never said he killed Harry. Does the word defeat and death mean the same thing in your mini country ?
It seems you forgot to watch the last movie clownchi . In the 7th movie Voldemort fails to kill Harry and dies a pathetic death....again outsmarted and defeated by teenagers...haermm
Harry had help from an entire army and a lie to keep him save from Malfoy's mother. The English language must be quite difficult to someone from your village. Shame.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That even goes to show how utterly astonishing the feat truly is. Hundreds of wizards didn't do it but Voldemort did in mere moments. That is how powerful he isVoldemort can merely gesture fire away and he isn't letting some foolish warrior do so in the first place.
Witch King rendered Gandalf impotent and left. By your logic Gandalf never defeated Saruman. 😂
No, we go with all showings. Only selecting certain showings implies bias and cherry picking.
Voldemort defeated Harry.
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Nope, combined effort.
Not if he's surprised.
Nope. Saruman was left powerless, as stated; that's a defeat. You didn't pay attention.
Not by your rules we don't, which dictate that Voldermort got his ass handed to him by a student-wizard of which Gandalf the White would crush.
Ergo, Voldermort is forever pwned by your own rules. /the end
Originally posted by RobtardVoldemort's blast was clearly more powerful. Voldemort is the most powerful wizard in existence and this is another feat which showcases it.
Nope, combined effort.Not if he's surprised.
Nope. Saruman was left powerless, as stated; that's a defeat. You didn't pay attention.
Not by your rules we don't, which dictate that Voldermort got his ass handed to him by a student-wizard of which Gandalf the White would crush.
Ergo, Voldermort is forever pwned by your own rules. /the end
No, both had their staves destroyed. It is the same thing but of course you want to accept one and not the other due to personal bias.
You aren't looking at the context of it and Voldemort has defeated him prior to. The wand never truly listened to him either. Context.
No, Gandalf lost in fair fights to superior opponents. Context.