Voldemort vs. Gandalf the White

Originally posted by Robtard
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At least you have a sensible reason and not a "Voldermort wins because HP is my favorite and I haven't watched LoTR" type of answer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort wins due to a ranged game, superior reflexes, more power, the ability to apparate, fly and his feats.

Well at least that's better than your earlier: "Voldermort uses the death spell which explodes everything and can sink the Titanic!", "Gandalf never killed anything fast!" and the like type of nonsense rants.

But no, as proven in here by multiple people multiple times multiplying the Gandalfian winnage exponentially.

Originally posted by Robtard
Well at least that's better than your earlier: "Voldermort uses the death spell which explodes everything and can sink the Titanic!", "Gandalf never killed anything fast!" and the like type of nonsense rants.

But no, as proven in here by multiple people multiple times multiplying the Gandalfian winnage exponentially.

Voldemort clearly wins.

Gandalf the Grey flashstepped an army and defended against continued assault from the likes of Sauron. Gandalf the White is greater and broke Saruman with words. He raises a shield and heats up Voldemort's wand with a thought. Then he proceeds to backhand the powerless Volde until he tells him where the rebel plans are,

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Gandalf's typical fighting style won't help him against Voldemort who uses ranged attacks. That is the difference here. Gandalf trading blows with a Balrog has no bearing on a battle against Voldemort.

Voldemort clearly wins.

I see, so now you'reback to dictating that Gandalf wouldn't use his range against another wizard and would do something like charge headlong into Voldermort like some fool.

Sorry, you don't get to make the character you want to see lose act like an idiot in a Vs thread. I might as well insist that Voldermort's going to start monologing like some chump instead of opening up with his best.

Gandalf won this long ago, best you deal with it 🙂

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Gandalf the Grey flashstepped an army and defended against continued assault from the likes of Sauron. Gandalf the White is greater and broke Saruman with words. He raises a shield and heats up Voldemort's wand with a thought. Then he proceeds to backhand the powerless Volde until he tells him where the rebel plans are,

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So you take one feat which he did against a warrior like he can do so to Voldemort. We see the Witch King destroy his staff as he sits back for over fifteen seconds.

Voldemort is quicker consistently, can apparate around, and has a ranged game in which Gandalf does not. It isn't Gandalf's strength by any means.

You're taking Gandalf's low end feats and arguing them as his norm against Voldemort's high end feats. I'm simply applying a more equal standard. Disprove that Gandalf can do what I claimed.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
You're taking Gandalf's low end feats and arguing them as his norm against Voldemort's high end feats. I'm simply applying a more equal standard. Disprove that Gandalf can do what I claimed.

You tried arguing him being crushed by Sauron carries some sort of weight. It's hilariously bad debating.

You really need to watch the LoTR films already and stop youtube-debating, as you consistently state nonsense in regards to Gandalf.

Things Gandalf can do at range:

Telekinesis
Pyrokinesis
Break another wizard's power with a word

As far as your "reflexes aren't great", Gandalf simultaneously blocked an arrow from Legolas, blocked an axe from Gimli and used his pryokeneis on Aragorn. You can youtube clip this 🙂

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
You're taking Gandalf's low end feats and arguing them as his norm against Voldemort's high end feats. I'm simply applying a more equal standard. Disprove that Gandalf can do what I claimed.

Gandalf deflected one of Legolas' arrows from near point blank range while rendering Gimli and Aragorn helpless. You are using low end Grey feats. My point above still stands. Gandalf the White is superior in every way, so his Grey feats are less than he's normally capable of.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Gandalf the Grey flashstepped an army and defended against continued assault from the likes of Sauron.

When did he do this in Fellowship?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Gandalf the White is greater and broke Saruman with words.

Feats that make Saruman better than Vold? All I can remember from Saruman was that he TKed Greydalf, something I don't think Vold would have trouble doing.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
He raises a shield

Film feats that make Gandalf's shield better than Vold's?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
and heats up Voldemort's wand with a thought.

And Vold will just be standing there not doing anything?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Then he proceeds to backhand the powerless Volde

Vold is powerless without a wand?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
until he tells him where the rebel plans are,

But those aren't the droids he's looking for 😉

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Gandalf deflected one of Legolas' arrows from near point blank range

You don't Vold can block an arrow?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
while rendering Gimli and Aragorn helpless.

And Vold is incapable of doing this because.....

You need to watch The Desolation of Smaug. Gandalf took a level in badass.

Indeed I do. I honestly forgot about it for a moment. My apologies. I'll watch it, and then make my judgement.

What do you mean "continued assault from Sauron?" Was he fighting Sauron directly, or his minions, or was Sauron throwing flames at him, or something else?

Sauron was emitting a stream of dark energy. Gandalf tanked it for the longest time.

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Hmm. Impressive shit. I may give Gandolph Lundgren the win here. Based on that scene, IDK WTF Vold could hit him with. I'll say Dalf 8/10, with a 2/10 chance that Vold can port behind him and AK him.

Originally posted by Robtard
You really need to watch the LoTR films already and stop youtube-debating, as you consistently state nonsense in regards to Gandalf.

Things Gandalf can do at range:

Telekinesis
Pyrokinesis
Break another wizard's power with a word

As far as your "reflexes aren't great", Gandalf simultaneously blocked an arrow from Legolas, blocked an axe from Gimli and used his pryokeneis on Aragorn. You can youtube clip this 🙂

Gandalf used light in order to cloud their vision and blocking arrows is easily done by Potter wizards. Look at Umbridge. Pedestrian but something you exaggerate.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Gandalf deflected one of Legolas' arrows from near point blank range while rendering Gimli and Aragorn helpless. You are using low end Grey feats. My point above still stands. Gandalf the White is superior in every way, so his Grey feats are less than he's normally capable of.

The White version still was shown up by the Witch King. All it takes is a Torch to exploit that weakness.

Originally posted by Lestov16
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Hmm. Impressive shit. I may give Gandolph Lundgren the win here. Based on that scene, IDK WTF Vold could hit him with. I'll say Dalf 8/10, with a 2/10 chance that Vold can port behind him and AK him.

Voldemorts ranged attacks are useless against gandalfs shield and Gandalf is clearly superior in close range combat. I honestly can't see volde winning even once. Gandalf 10/10