Voldemort vs. Gandalf the White

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort defeated Harry. I never said he killed Harry. Does the word defeat and death mean the same thing in your mini country ?

Harry had help from an entire army and a lie to keep him save from Malfoy's mother. The English language must be quite difficult to someone from your village. Shame.

Originally posted by Estacado
Voldemort had the most powerful wand and even an army yet he failed to defeat Harry not kill defeat.....even with the most powerful weapon in his hands he lost to children......haermm

Originally posted by quanchi112
The wand was never truly his. It killed a Horcrux in him. This is all stated in the film. I guess your country doesn't get entire movies. Context will always be right there to prove you wrong, third worlder.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort's blast was clearly more powerful. Voldemort is the most powerful wizard in existence and this is another feat which showcases it.

No, both had their staves destroyed. It is the same thing but of course you want to accept one and not the other due to personal bias.

You aren't looking at the context of it and Voldemort has defeated him prior to. The wand never truly listened to him either. Context.

No, Gandalf lost in fair fights to superior opponents. Context.

Stop fanboying. He's the most powerful evil wizard in his franchise.

Guess you missed the fact that Gandalf wasn't left powerless after his stave was broken and just recreated it. Saruman was left powerless, as per Gandalf's decree. Watch the films already.

I'm using your own rules of debating. Voldermort got his ass handed to him by a student-wizard. Gandalf the White crushes here. /endostory

Originally posted by Estacado
Quan the outcome is the same Voldemort lost to children no matter how you look at it.
He is a loser.

Gandalf just lost to Sauron, Saruman, and the Witch King by himself in fair fights.

😂

Originally posted by Robtard
Stop fanboying. He's the most powerful evil wizard in his franchise.

Guess you missed that fact that Gandalf wasn't left powerless after his stave was broken and just recreated it. Saruman was left powerless, as per Gandalf's decree. Watch the films already.

I'm using your own rules of debating. Voldermort got his ass handed to him by a student-wizard. Gandalf the White crushes here.

He was left powerless in that scene just as Saruman was. Saruman didn't live past the scene whereas Gandalf did since the Witch King left him. Aren't you smart enough to figure anything out on your own. Your bias is disturbing.

I don't ignore the context of anything whereas you ignore the context of everything. Voldemort also has a superior ranged game and greater feats of power along with reflexes.

Originally posted by Estacado
Gandalf killed a Balrog....that's more badass then anything Voldemort has done...

No he didn't, the fall did. All Gandalf did was make the bridge collapse. 🙄

I was just playing devils advocate. All i'm saying is that I think Gandalfs "powers" could have been represented a bit more visually. I know at the end of the day it all comes down to the wizards tool and will. Thus bringing us to which has the biggest of them all. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't. One never looks away from context like you do. Your ignorance is unbelievable. Voldemort clearly beat him. Harry clearly had help from adults, kids, ghosts, etc. His other had to initially give her own life to protect the boy.

Gandalf just lost to Sauron, Saruman, and the Witch King by himself in fair fights.

😂

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
No he didn't, the fall did. All Gandalf did was make the bridge collapse. 🙄

Originally posted by Estacado
How can you expect Voldemort to beat Gandalf when he gets outsmarted and beaten by kids?

I hope your small country gets the entire movie soon.

Gandalf defeated the Balrog in fair power combat .
Balrog>>>>group of children whom Voldemort failed to defeat even with an army and a plot device weapon at his hand....

Originally posted by Estacado
Gandalf defeated the Balrog in fair power combat .
Balrog>>>>group of children whom Voldemort failed to defeat even with an army and a plot device weapon at his hand....

The wand never responded or truly belonged to Voldemort. Voldemort also previously defeated Harry. The Balrog never defeated anyone. By your same logic let us try hilarious abc logic the third world country way. Harry with help defeated the Basilisk which is greater than the Balrog.

Basilisk>Balrog.

Yeah the Basilisk who couldnt even kill Harry.....haermm

Originally posted by Estacado
Yeah the Basilisk who got who couldnt even kill Harry.....haermm

😂

Phoenix blinded it so it couldnt use it's stone gaze.
It was still a giant snake who got killed by a fragile child how lame....haermm

Originally posted by Estacado
Phoenix blinded it so it couldnt use it's stone gaze.
It was still a giant snake who got slayed by a fragile child how lame....haermm

Tragic.

The Basilisk could still smell Harry and it knew where he was it could have easily crushed him but it failed to do so....

Originally posted by Estacado
The Basilisk could still smell Harry and it knew where he was it could have easily crushed him but it failed to do so....

I guess blinding someone means nothing especially when Harry was given a weapon capable of killing the Basilisk. Screw those details he was a child, right ?

Context. It always matters.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
No he didn't, the fall did. All Gandalf did was make the bridge collapse. 🙄

I was just playing devils advocate. All i'm saying is that I think Gandalfs "powers" could have been represented a bit more visually. I know at the end of the day it all comes down to the wizards tool and will. Thus bringing us to which has the biggest of them all. 😂

Watch the film again. The Balrog didn't die from the initial fall, but the subsequent battle with Gandalf that went on long enough for them to ascend the hidden stairs to the summit.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Watch the film again. The Balrog didn't die from the initial fall, but the subsequent battle with Gandalf that went on long enough for them to ascend the hidden stairs to the summit.