Originally posted by NephthysAh Bhaal.
Bhaal, God of Murder.Whats really cool is that at the end of the game you can take his place as the new God of Murder.
Lol.
He's dead.
Man Forgotten Realms really did say a big "**** YOU" to all the deities.
But yeah, a powerful enough Demigod backed by powerful enough losers could possibly best Demogorgon.
Does Old One Eye have any ranged biomorphs? Or the ability to jump?
If not, Ganondorf being able to fly does put a damper on the battle, since he can just hover out of range taking potshots until he gets bored, since he probably isn't getting past the regeneration. Maybe Ganondorf can set it on fire or teleport it somewhere else.
Originally posted by NemeBro
How the hell did he lose to Arthas using what is essentially just a really cool sword? 😬 Or maybe I am overrating Arthas.Some guy on DakkaDakka. The only thing useful I got out of that thread is:
- The units are big
- They have excellent production capabilities.Which is fair enough, but they need something more substantial than that.
Pft, cowardly sorcery. Khorne frowns on such nonsense.
The Hierophant would be better for it, yeah, having long bladed limbs of awesomeness that are faster than you may think. The Hierophant is incredibly agile for its size.
To be fair, Arthas was like the most powerful Death Knight ever, wielding freakin' Frostmourne. It's more than just a really cool sword. Still though, Arthas won that fight far too easily.
Size is a virtue of its own. I mean, when a shell fired by the Fatboy is as large(or even larger) as OOE, it doesn't leave much to the imagination what's gonna happen when it hits. Nukes, Neutrino bombs, Ionized Condensed Plasma, Anti-matter charges, Quantum(yeah, everything is ****ing Quantum in SupCom, whatever the hell that means) weapons, and all kinds of other exotic crap is pretty much mainstay in SupCom. All that is hampered, like Blax said, by SupCom's lackluster lore. It's more or less like "Big war happens in the future, lots of huge robots blow the shit out of each other. Then some aliens decide to exterminate humanity. With huge robots."
Well, Khorne can frown upon it all he likes. Kil'jaeden's sorcery is like hardcore. He's gonna pop the Nids like it's 1999.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
To be fair, Arthas was like the most powerful Death Knight ever, wielding freakin' Frostmourne. It's more than just a really cool sword. Still though, Arthas won that fight far too easily.
Death Knights are cowards and fewls though.
Size is a virtue of its own. I mean, when a shell fired by the Fatboy is as large(or even larger) as OOE, it doesn't leave much to the imagination what's gonna happen when it hits. Nukes, Neutrino bombs, Ionized Condensed Plasma, Anti-matter charges, Quantum(yeah, everything is ****ing Quantum in SupCom, whatever the hell that means) weapons, and all kinds of other exotic crap is pretty much mainstay in SupCom. All that is hampered, like Blax said, by SupCom's lackluster lore. It's more or less like "Big war happens in the future, lots of huge robots blow the shit out of each other. Then some aliens decide to exterminate humanity. With huge robots."
Lesser Carnifexes than Old One Eye have survived the atmosphere of a planet completely igniting and glassing it, due to their regeneration. OOE's regen is unparalleled in terms of Carnifexes.
Well, Khorne can frown upon it all he likes. Kil'jaeden's sorcery is like hardcore. He's gonna pop the Nids like it's 1999.
Pft. He's not even the equal of a Lord of Change, obviously. estahuh
Originally posted by NemeBro
Death Knights are cowards and fewls though.Lesser Carnifexes than Old One Eye have survived the atmosphere of a planet completely igniting and glassing it, due to their regeneration. OOE's regen is unparalleled in terms of Carnifexes.
Pft. He's not even the equal of a Lord of Change, obviously. estahuh
I don't think that Death Knights are really even capable of fear anymore. Teron Gorefiend was proper righteous and not foolish at all.
How do they breathe, then? Do they even need to breathe? At any rate, they must have gotten exceedingly lucky since far, far lesser weapons than planet-glassers successfully take Carnifexes down all the time, including OOE.
You mean those Skeksis wannabes? Freakin' amateurs compared to KJ. 💃
iirc Cyclonic torpedos just use a viral method or breaking down most of whats on a planet to nothing until the virus eats itself, of course it leaves out a large number of things, for example rock and such so there are things it does not destroy and it seems Carnifex' are one of them, their not unless the one Nemebro was talking about is different heavy warheads that do a huge amount of explosive force, its just a virus so this one virus is ineffective against the Fex.
Hence why you can list hundreds of WH40k weapons that affect less of a scale that wipe out Carnifex', I dont see anything in Supreme com having much difficulty simply by virtue of size, even some of the lesser units could crush him into fluid.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I don't think that Death Knights are really even capable of fear anymore. Teron Gorefiend was proper righteous and not foolish at all.
No u.
How do they breathe, then? Do they even need to breathe? At any rate, they must have gotten exceedingly lucky since far, far lesser weapons than planet-glassers successfully take Carnifexes down all the time, including OOE.
Actually IIRC Tyranids don't need to breathe. Their ships have no oxygen or anything. They actually eat the atmosphere of a planet, stripping it clean.
What lesser weapons are these? What, like Plasma Guns? Sounds to me like that says more about Plasma Guns than anything. 131
You mean those Skeksis wannabes? Freakin' amateurs compared to KJ. 💃
Isn't KJ a raid boss now? 131
Originally posted by NemeBro
No u.Actually IIRC Tyranids don't need to breathe. Their ships have no oxygen or anything. They actually eat the atmosphere of a planet, stripping it clean.
What lesser weapons are these? What, like Plasma Guns? Sounds to me like that says more about Plasma Guns than anything. 131
Isn't KJ a raid boss now? 131
If they don't need to breathe then what do they "run" on? I remember reading that at least some Tyranids don't even have stomachs. What does that leave?
Well, I don't remember Plasma Guns accidentally destabilizing the structure of a planet when misfired. Even then, I bet that a plasma gun is not even the weakest weapon that can damage or even kill a Carnifex.
A raid boss? Psshhh. I bet you don't wanna shit talk about Death Knights now, do you? Or maybe KJ is severely weakened by bad music?
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
If they don't need to breathe then what do they "run" on? I remember reading that at least some Tyranids don't even have stomachs. What does that leave?
They don't all have digestive systems, they all have a place to store biomass though. And don't think too hard on it, 40k is about as far from hard SF as it gets almost.
Well, I don't remember Plasma Guns accidentally destabilizing the structure of a planet when misfired. Even then, I bet that a plasma gun is not even the weakest weapon that can damage or even kill a Carnifex.
The effect of a Carnifex is clearly more focused. 131
Also different. Plasma weaponry in 40k isn't just some ball of intense heat, it actually converts its target into superheated plasma on impact.
What else has been shown to reliably kill a Carnifex?
A raid boss? Psshhh. I bet you don't wanna shit talk about Death Knights now, do you? Or maybe KJ is severely weakened by bad music?
The bad music made it unbearable to watch.
So he can get beaten by a single (Gnome?) Death Knight or something? I honestly couldn't tell what it was foitin' him.
Originally posted by NemeBro
They don't all have digestive systems, they all have a place to store biomass though. And don't think too hard on it, 40k is about as far from hard SF as it gets almost.The effect of a Carnifex is clearly more focused. 131
Also different. Plasma weaponry in 40k isn't just some ball of intense heat, it actually converts its target into superheated plasma on impact.
What else has been shown to reliably kill a Carnifex?
The bad music made it unbearable to watch.
So he can get beaten by a single (Gnome?) Death Knight or something? I honestly couldn't tell what it was foitin' him.
I see. I mean, less sophisticated weaponry than Plasma can hurt and kill Carnifexes. Good old-fasioned explosives, a big enough bolter, I think even a chainsword can slash one.
You should mute it. I did.
I think it was a lvl85 Draenei Death Knight. It's just some silliness because the character is 2 Expansion Packs ahead of what the Kil'jaeden encounter was intended to be(lvl70). The gains in(at least gameplay) player character power between Expansions is pretty vast.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I see. I mean, less sophisticated weaponry than Plasma can hurt and kill Carnifexes. Good old-fasioned explosives, a big enough bolter, I think even a chainsword can slash one.
Perhaps, though I can recall nothing lesser that has, honestly. Except in Dawn of War apparently (The games, not the novels. No one, not even Black Library, consider the novels canon). "Even a chainsword" is disingenuous, when the teeth of a chainsword are monomolecular (Incredibly sharp), while also having less surface area than a normal sword, and spin incredibly fast. And usually have superhuman (It's hard to tell to exactly what extent) strength and speed backing them up. And when has a chainsword killed a Carnifex? A chainsword isn't even likely to seriously injure a Marine in power armour.
Also, keep in mind Old One Eye is speshul. It took a plasma gun to the eye to incapacitate it.
You should mute it. I did.
Never.
I think it was a lvl85 Draenei Death Knight. It's just some silliness because the character is 2 Expansion Packs ahead of what the Kil'jaeden encounter was intended to be(lvl70). The gains in(at least gameplay) player character power between Expansions is pretty vast.
A Draenei? I assumed Gnome because he looked tiny.
Lol, so Kil'Jaeden<Level 85 characters huh? 131