Old One Eye runs a gauntlet.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Considering Krak Missiles can destroy Dark Eldar spires, which dwarf five kilometer long strike cruisers, well... 🙂

That's easier than you'd think, really, as you'd only need to destroy a small portion of the building; the rest'll collapse on its own from the instability, ala the world trade center.

Honestly though, I'm just trolling.

Also, Blax, you're going to have to remind me what a Hydra Battery is.

Basically an anti-aircraft gun; fires a shitload of rounds at a time.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
That's easier than you'd think, really, as you'd only need to destroy a small portion of the building; the rest'll collapse on its own from the instability, ala the world trade center.

A "small portion" of a Dark Eldar spire is still incredibly large. estahuh

Honestly though, I'm just trolling.

No shit.

haermm

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/354208.page

Basically an anti-aircraft gun; fires a shitload of rounds at a time.

Oh right, so basically an autocannon.

Not sure why that got Shin buttmad. Autocannons are meant to deal with shit like that, and fire fusillades of ammunition that makes a heavy bolter look meek and pathetic in comparison.

Granted I'm not sure why an anti-aircraft gun was used to kill a Carnifex.

Scream lives in a dream world filled with naked genestealer women, who whisper myths into his ears, such as Hive Tyrants surviving the force of black holes, and hive fleets flying through supernovas unscathed.

From what I remember the hydra was part of a heavy armor regiment that got flanked by the tyranids. They basically just turned their vehicles around and started blasting away.

Thinking more on it... it might have been a hive tyrant that got shredded by the hydra, not a carnifex. I'll check the book when I get home.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Scream lives in a dream world filled with naked genestealer women, who whisper myths into his ears, such as Hive Tyrants surviving the force of black holes, and hive fleets flying through supernovas unscathed.

To be fair, genestealer women are hot.

From what I remember the hydra was part of a heavy armor regiment that got flanked by the tyranids. They basically just turned their vehicles around and started blasting away.

Thinking more on it... it might have been a hive tyrant that got shredded by the hydra, not a carnifex. I'll check the book when I get home.

A Hive Tyrant is actually a bit physically tougher than a Carnifex, in most sources I have read. Albeit physically weaker on average.

But regardless, an autocannon killing either is not completely unbelievable.

Edit: On another note, I am downloading a huge amount of ****ing 40k books and comics from scribd, so will have moar feats and other nonsense later and shit, perhaps.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Perhaps, though I can recall nothing lesser that has, honestly. Except in Dawn of War apparently (The games, not the novels. No one, not even Black Library, consider the novels canon). "Even a chainsword" is disingenuous, when the teeth of a chainsword are monomolecular (Incredibly sharp), while also having less surface area than a normal sword, and spin incredibly fast. And usually have superhuman (It's hard to tell to exactly what extent) strength and speed backing them up. And when has a chainsword killed a Carnifex? A chainsword isn't even likely to seriously injure a Marine in power armour.

Also, keep in mind Old One Eye is speshul. It took a plasma gun to the eye to incapacitate it.

Never.

A Draenei? I assumed Gnome because he looked tiny.

Lol, so Kil'Jaeden<Level 85 characters huh? 131

Well yeah, hardly anything in 40K is ordinary or weak, but obviously a Plasma Weapon > Chainsword. Regardless, I think we can all agree that you don't need anything even remotely close to planet-destroying firepower to injure and kill a Carnifex, even if it's a special one like OOE. And yeah, I got that one from DoW 2.

Special, but I bet a Mech Marine or a Hunter could just run circles around OOE and pwn it.

Then you will have to suffer the aural onslaught.

She looks tiny because the camera is zoomed out all the way. It appears so, but it's mostly gameplay. WoW often sacrifices lore for game mechanics and convenience. I mean, you can go to Molten Core alone(lvl60 raid) and pwn Ragnaros with your farts, but if you go to Firelands(lvl85) alone, Ragnaros will pwn you with his farts. Going by that, the Lich King's mooks are more powerful than Kil'jaeden and there are many more examples such as this. Despite all that, soloing raids of the yesteryear is still one of the more entertaining activities in WoW.

There's also another side to this: KJ was only roughly halfway through the portal(the Sunwell) and the avatar that had all the powers of the said Sunwell was working against him. Also, when the raid was first released, there were hints that it wasn't really even KJ, but a "twisted avatar" of his. Even then, he merely gets sucked back through the portal because Anveena gets all bitchy.

Honestly though, I'm just trolling.

Naked genestealker, Scream. Naked genestealers.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Naked genestealker, Scream. Naked genestealers.

And those are the ones who whisper untrue tyranid feats to you. You know this to be true.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Well yeah, hardly anything in 40K is ordinary or weak, but obviously a Plasma Weapon > Chainsword. Regardless, I think we can all agree that you don't need anything even remotely close to planet-destroying firepower to injure and kill a Carnifex, even if it's a special one like OOE. And yeah, I got that one from DoW 2.

A Plasma Weapon is hardcore, yo, not much can tank them, though actually a plasma gun is not guaranteed to wtfpwn a Carnifex. Also, planet-destroying? Big difference between that and planet-glassing.

Special, but I bet a Mech Marine or a Hunter could just run circles around OOE and pwn it.

Pft, maybe only because OOE is so damn slow and has no ranged weaponry.

Then you will have to suffer the aural onslaught.

Whatever that is.

She looks tiny because the camera is zoomed out all the way. It appears so, but it's mostly gameplay. WoW often sacrifices lore for game mechanics and convenience. I mean, you can go to Molten Core alone(lvl60 raid) and pwn Ragnaros with your farts, but if you go to Firelands(lvl85) alone, Ragnaros will pwn you with his farts. Going by that, the Lich King's mooks are more powerful than Kil'jaeden and there are many more examples such as this. Despite all that, soloing raids of the yesteryear is still one of the more entertaining activities in WoW.

There's also another side to this: KJ was only roughly halfway through the portal(the Sunwell) and the avatar that had all the powers of the said Sunwell was working against him. Also, when the raid was first released, there were hints that it wasn't really even KJ, but a "twisted avatar" of his. Even then, he merely gets sucked back through the portal because Anveena gets all bitchy.

I'm not seeing the part where a Lord of Change doesn't kick Kil'Jaeden's ass. 131

Originally posted by NemeBro
A Plasma Weapon is hardcore, yo, not much can tank them, though actually a plasma gun is not guaranteed to wtfpwn a Carnifex. Also, planet-destroying? Big difference between that and planet-glassing.

Pft, maybe only because OOE is so damn slow and has no ranged weaponry.

Whatever that is.

I'm not seeing the part where a Lord of Change doesn't kick Kil'Jaeden's ass. 131

Oh yea, I meant a weapon capable of causing destruction on a planetary scale. Even so, I don't see a Carnifex surviving such a weapon(s) barring massive luck and/or very good positioning(in case of planet-glassing).

I was talking about the loathsome song used in the video. It's aural apocalypse.

I bet a fight between the two would be pretty boring as both prefer deception, subterfuge, manipulation, and illusions as their primary weapons. What is your average Lord of Change capable of anyway?

Getting its ass handed to it by CREED!

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Oh yea, I meant a weapon capable of causing destruction on a planetary scale. Even so, I don't see a Carnifex surviving such a weapon(s) barring massive luck and/or very good positioning(in case of planet-glassing).

Well, it has happened. O: Actually, Terminators have survived the same, IIRC.

I was talking about the loathsome song used in the video. It's aural apocalypse.

That song was all kinds of nonsense.

I bet a fight between the two would be pretty boring as both prefer deception, subterfuge, manipulation, and illusions as their primary weapons. What is your average Lord of Change capable of anyway? [/B]

Well, along with being physically strong enough to tear a Leman Russ in half, they are sorcerers unparalleled in 40k. With a casual gesture, they can devour souls. With a similar casual gesture, they can do shit like warp and twist skyscrapers, annihilating them. They are the most powerful psykers in 40k generally, capable of destroying cities and crushing armies single-handedly. Oh, and Tzeentch lets them see into the future constantly, only a few seconds admittedly, which gives it combat-precog.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Well, it has happened. O: Actually, Terminators have survived the same, IIRC.

That song was all kinds of nonsense.

Well, along with being physically strong enough to tear a Leman Russ in half, they are sorcerers unparalleled in 40k. With a casual gesture, they can devour souls. With a similar casual gesture, they can do shit like warp and twist skyscrapers, annihilating them. They are the most powerful psykers in 40k generally, capable of destroying cities and crushing armies single-handedly. Oh, and Tzeentch lets them see into the future constantly, only a few seconds admittedly, which gives it combat-precog.

Tween wave?

All of that sounds really awesome, but are they really the most powerful? I mean, people like Magnus the Red or Ahriman, aren't they even more powerful?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Tween wave?

All of that sounds really awesome, but are they really the most powerful? I mean, people like Magnus the Red or Ahriman, aren't they even more powerful?

Magnus the Red is indeed more powerful. He is actually the second most powerful psyker in history, short of only the Emperor himself. Once you get to his level, you get shit like stopping time on a planetary scale.

Ahriman is harder to tell. He has some great feats though, and actually, his mastery over sorcery is said to equal that of a Lord of Change's.

Ahriman is certainly one of the most powerful mortal psykers in history, rivaled only by some Chief Librarians and some Farseers.

Kil'jaeden is kinda feat-starved, but I'm pretty sure he'd mow down them Skeksis-things if they came to blows 💃

Even if that's true, Magnus the Red, his 40k equivelant, would crush him completely and utterly. estahuh

Originally posted by NemeBro
Even if that's true, Magnus the Red, his 40k equivelant, would crush him completely and utterly. estahuh

Arguable since what passes for 40k magic seems pretty slim compared to Warcrafts spell usage. Your a fan of pure physical damage attacks which is all you seem to scale by but Killy has his whole powers that go beyond just smashing something.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Considering Krak Missiles can destroy Dark Eldar spires, which dwarf five kilometer long strike cruisers, well... 🙂

Also, Blax, you're going to have to remind me what a Hydra Battery is.

Yes because size is the only indication of toughness!....

Big 4 barreled vehicle built for wrecking aircraft.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Yes because size is the only indication of toughness!....

DA BIGGER DAY R, DA TUFFER DAY R!

Originally posted by Burning thought
Arguable since what passes for 40k magic seems pretty slim compared to Warcrafts spell usage. Your a fan of pure physical damage attacks which is all you seem to scale by but Killy has his whole powers that go beyond just smashing something.

Yes because size is the only indication of toughness!....

Big 4 barreled vehicle built for wrecking aircraft.

Sorcery in 40K can be pretty powerful. The aforementioned Ahriman, with the help of some other sorcerers, cast a very powerful spell indeed: "The actual spell unleashed was so powerful that even the Daemons of the Warp shied from it. The Planet of Sorcerers was engulfed in a storm of blue and yellow lightning, striking down every Marine on the planet. Eventually Magnus intervened and stopped the spell." Though Magnus's showings during the Battle of the Fang are pretty lackluster for such a supposedly mighty Primach Daemon Prince.