Originally posted by Lord LucienI think his precog is still fair here. Gimme a number out of 10 matchups you feel Vader wins here.
Very nice, this is a tough one. I'd be inclined toward Achilles due to how freaking awesome he was as a non-Force user. But if Anakin is still allowed his Force-precognition, I think I'd go for him more times than not.
I value Vader's precognitive abilities enough to put him at 6/10. Though, if Achilles' shield is also saber-proof, then the favour swings back his way. Achilles is a master at using his shield defensively and offensively, while Vader's film feats feature sole proficiency in blade-only combat.
But yeah, give him the Force as a weapon and it'll be 10/10.
Originally posted by Korto VosI have a habit of being right.
Why am I [B]not surprised you'd say that? uhuh [/B]
Originally posted by Lord LucienThe shield along with his spear and sword are all saber proof.
I value Vader's precognitive abilities enough to put him at 6/10. Though, if Achilles' shield is also saber-proof, then the favour swings back his way. Achilles is a master at using his shield defensively and offensively, while Vader's film feats feature sole proficiency in blade-only combat.But yeah, give him the Force as a weapon and it'll be 10/10.
Re: Achilles vs. Darth Vader (ROTS pre suit)
Another poster used to do this long ago, boost the character he wanted to win will gimping the character he wanted to lose.
What's the point though, as any outcome can be dictated this way. I could have Mary Jane defeat Superman with the proper boosting/gimping combo.
Re: Re: Achilles vs. Darth Vader (ROTS pre suit)
Originally posted by Robtard
Another poster used to do this long ago, boost the character he wanted to win will gimping the character he wanted to lose.What's the point though, as any outcome can be dictated this way. I could have Mary Jane defeat Superman with the proper boosting/gimping combo.
I think if MJ sat on his face she would win!
Re: Re: Achilles vs. Darth Vader (ROTS pre suit)
Originally posted by RobtardYou're no fun.
Another poster used to do this long ago, boost the character he wanted to win will gimping the character he wanted to lose.What's the point though, as any outcome can be dictated this way. I could have Mary Jane defeat Superman with the proper boosting/gimping combo.
I'm thinking Achilles with full shield and spear.
Originally posted by RobtardThis thread is about seeing who is the better swordsman. Achilles is just a slightly superhuman/highly skilled warrior he had no way out getting past a force choke.
Another poster used to do this long ago, boost the character he wanted to win will gimping the character he wanted to lose.What's the point though, as any outcome can be dictated this way. I could have Mary Jane defeat Superman with the proper boosting/gimping combo.
Originally posted by Korto VosYou still have to be able to keep up and your body has to react accordingly. Precog isn't an autowin and we've seen Yoda hit before by an obvious attack. You know I will never quit referring to this. 😛
If Anakin has precognition, how does he lose this fight?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Precog isn't an autowin and we've seen Yoda hit before by an obvious attack. You know I will never quit referring to this. 😛
LOL, I'll just copy-paste all my posts from the Battlezone regarding that!
😛
Seriously though, if Anakin is able to 'see' Achille's attacks before they happen, that's an overwhelming advantage.
Originally posted by Korto VosIt is but look at how incredibly skilled Achilles was. hector was no slouch either and Achilles completely dominated him. Now I know jedi/sith are over any other warrior in troy but my point is Achilles was well beyond anyone in one on one battle. I think without the sabers destroying his weapons he wins. Anakin was definitely beatable.
LOL, I'll just copy-paste all my posts from the Battlezone regarding that!😛
Seriously though, if Anakin is able to 'see' Achille's attacks before they happen, that's an overwhelming advantage.
"teh zone!!!111" Anakin, who trounced Dooku 1 vs. 1, is probably second to only Yoda and Sidious in the films.
Honestly, the way Vader lost against Obi-Wan was complete PIS.
Obi-Wan: "It's over Anakin, I have the high ground."
Like WTF? Was Anakin supposed to drop his lightsaber and dunk himself into the lava?
Seriously, this should have happened:
Anakin: *Jumps to the top of the hill* "It's over Obi-Wan, I have the high ground."
This is why Star Wars without the exposition of the novels and EU is kinda lame. All we have are perceived film feats and the various interpretations of them. EU Vader, Force or not, would trounce Achilles. But films alone, I'm not so impressed by Anakin's skills as to give him "Win, cuz precog." Against an ordinary man, sure, but against someone with the speed, reflexes, and overall skill as Brad Pitt, I'm not as confident. Throw in a saber resistant shield, something no Jedi in the films is ever seen going up against, and my money's on Achilles more often than not.