Gladiator vs Wolverine

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus11 pages
Originally posted by carver9
Sigh*, stab, penetrate, all the same to me. Gladiator healed the wound in a panel. I'm not mad at the showing at all.

You're not? I figured since it indicates Thor has superior piercing durability, you'd be pissed.

Lol...I'm loving it.

Thor's Carv's favorite character.

😐

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You're not? I figured since it indicates Thor has superior piercing durability, you'd be pissed.

It really doesn't since Wolvy never attempted to stab Thor. Let's not go through this today Rage because I could easily bring up Wolvy shrugging off Thor attacks and handling him until Thor flew in the air and even then Wolverine tanked Thor lightning attack.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You're not? I figured since it indicates Thor has superior piercing durability, you'd be pissed.

Or it confirms what everyone else already knew, that Wolverine only landed slashing glancing blows on Thor and that you are living in denial. 😎

Gladiator should easily render Wolverine unconscious within minutes.

Originally posted by carver9
It really doesn't since Wolvy never attempted to stab Thor. Let's not go through this today Rage because I could easily bring up Wolvy shrugging off Thor attacks and handling him until Thor flew in the air and even then Wolverine tanked Thor lightning attack.

There was a very similar scene where he jumped on Thor's back and stabbed downward. I'd wager the wounds were relatively shallow like most of the attacks were except the one near the rib area.

What attacks? Thor tossed him through the air a few feet away. Wolverine did no better than Thor in that battle. I'd also like to point out that the in the next issue when they reach the bar, all of Thor's wounds seemed to be healed.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Or it confirms what everyone else already knew, that Wolverine only landed slashing glancing blows on Thor and that you are living in denial. 😎

Haha, you're one to talk. Tell me more about how Wolverine punched Thor in the back. You spun so much bullshit so you could hang on to the idea that every attack was a glancing blow except that particular spot that you must have been dizzy.

The comic made it pretty clear. Wolverine was doing minor damage because of the thickness of Thor's skin. This glancing blow nonsense is just that.

That rib area attack was an outlier, perhaps he hacked away at that particular spot more often than others, I'm not sure but you can't explain away all inconsistencies.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
There was a very similar scene where he jumped on Thor's back and stabbed downward. I'd wager the wounds were relatively shallow like most of the attacks were except the one near the rib area.

What attacks? Thor tossed him through the air a few feet away. Wolverine did no better than Thor in that battle. I'd also like to point out that the in the next issue when they reach the bar, all of Thor's wounds seemed to be healed.

Wolverine never attempted a stab.

It took the entire team of annihilators to slow Gladiator down whereas Wolverine tooled Thor. Wolverine had to sneak attack Gladiator whereas he fought Thor upfront and personal and had Thor second guessing, calling Wolverine the most dangerous man on the planet.

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine never attempted a stab.

It took the entire team of annihilators to slow Gladiator down whereas Wolverine dolled Thor. Wolverine had to sneak attack Gladiator whereas he fought Thor upfront and personal and had Thor second guessing, calling Wolverine the most dangerous man on the planet.

Then what was he doing when he jumped on Thor, trying to get a piggy back ride?

Annihilators? What? I think your anger at Thor being superior has gotten you confused. Wolverine tried sneak attacking Thor, except Thor's much tougher than Gladiator, so he didn't just impale him. Okay?

At the end of the day, I'll take Thor being slower than Wolverine over Gladiator struggling to wrestle Wolverine in the air every time.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Haha, you're one to talk. Tell me more about how Wolverine punched Thor in the back. You spun so much bullshit so you could hang on to the idea that every attack was a glancing blow except the one that you liked it was just silly.

The comic made it pretty clear. Wolverine was doing minor damage because of the thickness of his skin. This glancing blow nonsense is just that.

He didn't punch Thor in the back, he jumped on him. Every blow was a glancing blow, if it wasn't Thor would have had his head lobbed off in the initial exchange.

Do you find it strange that all previous and subsequent Wolverine appearances depicting his claws clashing with the durability of high level bricks confirms my interpretation of what happened? Or do you just feel that is a massive coincident? Either Thor had durability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanos, Gladiator, Wonder Man and Count Nef or Wolverine only connecting with glancing blows... which is what was actually shown on panel.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He didn't punch Thor in the back, he jumped on him...
yeah, from the back the long flowing blond hair might confuse Wolverine... mind you, the absence of a giant squirrel's tail should have put him off...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He didn't punch Thor in the back, he jumped on him. Every blow was a glancing blow, if it wasn't Thor would have had his head lobbed off in the initial exchange.

Do you find it strange that all previous and subsequent Wolverine appearances depicting his claws clashing with the durability of high level bricks confirms my interpretation of what happened? Or do you just feel that is a massive coincident? Either Thor had durability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanos, Gladiator, Wonder Man and Count Nef or Wolverine only connecting with glancing blows... which is what was actually shown on panel.

Wolverine didn't just jump on Thor, he attempted to stab Thor. Hence the downward motion lines indicating a stabbing movement and Thor being in pain. Unfortunately, that would mean that he was only able to do minor damage, which most of the mini supports.

Haha, I honestly don't know why I even bother. Wolverine slashes Thor's face from a few away and it was a glancing blow? In Wolverine's mind, Creed's face was a mess while Thor only had paper cuts for a reason.

You've gotten into your head this idea that Logan should be able to easily cut through Thor and that every attack that says otherwise must have some explanation behind it even if nothing is suggested. It was spelled out for us in the comic, Wolverine was doing minor damage because of the thickness of Thor's skin.

Haha, do you really think that reasoning is going to work on me or prove you right within the context of this mini?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Then what was he doing when he jumped on Thor, trying to get a piggy back ride?

Annihilators? What? I think your anger at Thor being superior has gotten you confused. Wolverine tried sneak attacking Thor, except Thor's much tougher than Gladiator, so he didn't just impale him. Okay?

At the end of the day, I'll take Thor being slower than Wolverine over Gladiator struggling to wrestle Wolverine in the air every time.

He didn't stab at Thor and I meant to say it took the entire team of Avengers to slow Glads down whereas Wolverine soloed Thor and had the advantage.

So colossus has some ridiculous level piercing durability

It took an amp to cut colossus

Originally posted by carver9
He didn't stab at Thor and I meant to say it took the entire team of Avengers to slow Glads down whereas Wolverine soloed Thor and had the advantage.

I'll ask you more time then, what exactly did he do there if not a stab?

Wolverine jumped on Thor's back from a vantage point with the intent to take him down, motion lines indicate an obvious stabbing movement, and Thor yells out in pain. It's pretty clear what happened, you don't have to like it or accept it, but denying what occurred is just silly.

Heh, Gladiator didn't do anything that Thor couldn't. For the record, Wolverine was handling Gladiator fine as well. There's no way that you can twist Gladiator being impaled then struggling with Logan in the air into something positive in comparison with Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wolverine didn't just jump on Thor, he attempted to stab Thor. Hence the downward motion lines indicating a stabbing movement and Thor being in pain. Haha, I honestly don't know why I even bother. Wolverine slashes Thor's face from a few away and it was a glancing blow? In Wolverine's mind, Creed's face was a mess while Thor only had paper cuts for a reason.

You've gotten into your head this idea that Logan should be able to easily cut through Thor and that every attack that says otherwise is wrong. It was spelled out for us in the comic, Wolverine was doing minor damage because of the thickness of Thor's skin. Get over it.

Haha, do you really think that reasoning is going to work on me or prove you right?

Wolverine didn't attempt to stab Thor, his claws were sheathed. Look at the panel. Imagine where Wolverine's fists would be on the picture. Then imagine there was twelve inch claws attached for them. There is no room for Wolverine's claws to be extended, if they were they would have been protruding through Thor's chest. Also the very next panel, the one which depicts Thor spinning and knock Wolverine off of himself immediately after the panel you are citing, shows Wolverine and his claws are very clearly retracted. Why did Thor grunt when Wolverine jumped on him? I don't know... maybe because he had painful lacerations across his obliques? All the motion lines indicate is that he brought his arms down, which makes sense since the were likely elevated when he jumped.

Yeah thick sink is a huge boon, especially when your opponent is only landing glancing blows.

If he didn't stab Thor, why would he even bother punching him? That's stupid as hell and doesn't even make sense considering Logan was trying to really mess up "Victor". Furthermore, if he did in fact punch Thor upon jumping him, Thor acknowledging his strike is PIS of the highest order.

Either he stabbed Thor and the claws didn't go in deep enough to obviously be fatal or close to it.

Or he punched Thor and Thor sold the punch, which is PIS considering whose punches have failed to really effect him.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine didn't attempt to stab Thor, his claws were sheathed. Look at the panel. Imagine where Wolverine's fists would be on the picture. Then imagine there was twelve inch claws attached for them. There is no room for Wolverine's claws to be extended, if they were they would have been protruding through Thor's chest.

Why the hell would his claws be sheathed in such a position? And why would Thor be in such pain if they were? Everything from what we've seen would indicate an attempt to stab Thor, for Odin's sake, he tried the exact same thing a few pages ago.

Are you really going to play a silly angle game with me here? My god, you really desperate for anything aren't you? Okay, ignoring the comic being a comic, Wolverine's claws couldn't be seen because Thor's back was arched.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Also the very next panel, the one which depicts Thor spinning and knock Wolverine off of himself immediately after the panel you are citing, shows Wolverine and his claws are very clearly retracted.

This argument is destroyed by Wolverine's claws being sheathed in the previous page despite them being out when his feet were on the ground.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Why did Thor grunt when Wolverine jumped on him? I don't know... maybe because he had painful lacerations across his obliques?

More desperate attempts to ignore what's very clear. Thor didn't grunt, he yelled out in pain. The lacerations on the side were deeper than the others but they weren't that bad. Especially for someone like Thor.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah thick sink is a huge boon, especially when your opponent is only landing glancing blows.

Lawlz. I don't know why it's so hard for you to accept the obvious. Wolverine having trouble cutting Thor was a result of his thick skin, it's obviously the intent.

I know the fact that the fact that Thor can withstand Wolverine's claws even in such a horrible portrayal scares the shit out of you but you need to get over it.

He didn't bother punching him. He jumped onto a flying opponent and tried to grab onto him and was promptly knocked off. Thor made a grunting noise. Big deal. He had lacerations in his side, it's painful.