Darth Malgus vs Count Dooku

Started by S_W_LeGenD8 pages

Originally posted by Nephthys
How the hell is that the best angle? Its crap, you can't even see the ground. And even then you can see they're bigger than that by comparison to Opress, who is 2.23 meters tall according to Wookiepedia.

That is the best angle because it shows stones from both sides in perfect clarity.

At maximum, those large stones would be 9 feet tall but they thin out too much at the top side. The statues which I posted are still valid reference.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Imo, this is the best angle and this is what I'm going by:


This angle is not perfect. The stones on the right of Dooku look much larger then they actually are.

Still if you compare Oppress with the large stone on the middle, you will notice that it is not much taller then him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm taking this from the word of people I trust to get these things right. They've been calculating weights of objects for years.

They estimated 210 tons, right? 🙄

Do your own research instead or consult some real professionals.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That is the best angle because it shows stones from both sides in perfect clarity.

At maximum, those large stones would be 9 feet tall but they thin out too much at the top side. The statues which I posted do not thin out like that. They are still valid reference.

This angle is deceiving. The stones on the right of Dooku look much larger then they actually are.

They estimated 210 tons, right? 🙄

Do your own research instead or consult some real professionals.

Either way, I gave them the whole video. So they can use all the angles to decide it.

'Larger han they really are'? Thats what we're trying to establish. We don't know how big they 'really are.' If they look that big, they are that big.

What like you? 😬

Thanks but I'd rather take their word for it. They actually use math, instead of your bizzaro logic. They laughed when I gave them your estimate.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Either way, I gave them the whole video. So they can use all the angles to decide it.

'What they really are'? Thats what we're trying to establish. If they look that big, they are that big.

What like you? 😬

Thanks but I'd rather take their word for it. They actually use math, instead of your bizzaro logic. They laughed when I gave them your estimate.


They are stupid. Don't judge me on the basis of Star Wars debates.

Tell them that the Statue of Liberty weighs 225 tons and it is considerably larger in comparison to these stones.

Also, show them the link of the statues that I posted here and used for reference. Don't just give them half-baked information.

Here is the link again:

http://www.stonecarving7th.com/garden/statue.html

There are different kinds of stones. Not all of them have the same weight.

Also

And that the statue of liberty is a, and I quote;

"a hollow colossus composed of thinly pounded copper sheets over a steel framework"

And the picture of the 100 ton boulder.

Originally posted by Nephthys
There are different kinds of stones. Not all of them have the same weight.

I know. There weight differs on the basis of their masses. But they make good comparisons.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also

And that the statue of liberty is a, and I quote;

"a hollow colossus composed of thinly pounded copper sheets over a steel framework"


It is still gigantic in size and weighs a lot accordingly.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And the picture of the 100 ton boulder.

Again, boulder is an invalid comparison. Its mass is enormous.

It doesn't matter how gigantic it is. Its thin and lightweight.

The boulder was not an invalid comparison. Those pillars have at least equal mass to it.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
http://agg.pnnl.gov/projects/nwst.pdf

"Geologist Bruce Bjornstad stands on a 15-foot-tall, 100-ton boulder that may have been rafted to its current location near Kennewick, Wash., by a giant iceberg during one of the last great ice age floods. Photo courtesy of Bruce Bjornstad/PNNL" look at the foto in thar.

If you want to see what they're actually saying just click the blue (post) part. Just don't bother them.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It doesn't matter how gigantic it is. Its thin and lightweight.

The boulder was not an invalid comparison. Those pillars have at least equal mass to it.


Since when did boulder became a valid comparison to an Obilisk like structure? 🙄

I will present much better comparison and expose those idiots. Just wait.

It was a comparison of scale.

Originally posted by Nephthys
If you want to see what they're actually saying just click the blue (post) part. Just don't bother them.

15 foot tall boulder weighs 100 tons, right?

Now here is a comparison:-

Look at this Obilisk:

This one is 68 feet tall and weighs 120 tons. It is gigantic in mass.

Now you get my point?

Originally posted by Nephthys
It was a comparison of scale.

Not a valid one at all.

Neph those numbers are absurdly high.

They're not mine. But these guys know their stuff. I trust their math.

Originally posted by Nephthys
They're not mine. But these guys know their stuff. I trust their math.

I know my stuff too. I am good at focusing on the logical depth of things.

Math cannot resolve this mystery. As I proved with my example.

We don't know the materials from which those stones are made of. Some materials are heavier then others.

Also, input from some professional stone smith would be required here.

Regardless, you picked up the wrong topic here.

It is impressive feat. It shows the potential of Count Dooku. Those stones combined would have weighed several tons. So be done with this.

Its far greater than Malgus' feat. Proving that Dooku is superior when it comes to telekinesis.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I know my stuff too. I am good at focusing on the logical depth of things.

Math cannot resolve this mystery. As I proved with my example.

We don't know the materials from which those stones are made of. Some materials are heavier then others.


Yeah. We can make reasonable assumptions. Stone has a range of values, and If you took the time you would be able to look at both the maximum and minimum physically possible results of the showings, as well as the average (as I have done).


Also, input from some professional stone smith would be required here.
No, that's stupid.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091209163442AA62GdK

http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_materials.htm

Originally posted by Nephthys
Its far greater than Malgus' feat. Proving that Dooku is superior when it comes to telekinesis.

This is a different feat performed under different circumstances. Dooku is in a calm environment where he can focus properly and he lifted the stones for a moment and then let go. This is it.

Malgus prevented a mountain of rubble comprising of Duracrete and Steel objects from crushing him to death, and blew it apart in to different directions. And he performed this feat while being injured. Also, he becomes more powerful later on.

This showing of Count Dooku is not greater in comparison and neither it compares to it. Don't try to trump feats of Malgus on the basis of basless assumptions.

Originally posted by Nephthys
They're not mine. But these guys know their stuff. I trust their math.

They didn't do Math. They eyeballed it. I'm getting something like 1.2 tons for the big ones, not 24 tons.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This is a different feat performed under different circumstances.

Malgus prevented a [B]mountain of rubble comprising of Duracrete and Steel objects from crushing him to death, and blew it apart in to different directions. And he does this while being injured.

This showing of Count Dooku is not greater in comparison and neither it compares to it. Don't try to trump feats of Malgus on the basis of basless assumptions. [/B]

It was not a 'mountain of rubble'. That is purely hyperbole. The exact words were 'several tons.' As I have shown, the meaning of several is 'more than one or two but not many.'

Dooku however casually lifted upwards of 20 tons. Thats a far superior feat. Note that Opress went on to do the same, so he is also Malgus' superior.

Originally posted by Zampanó
They didn't do Math. They eyeballed it. I'm getting something like 1.2 tons for the big ones, not 24 tons.

They do enough math that I'm comfortable in taking their estimates over Legends (who is a fool) logic and sorry to say your (I don't know how good at math you are) math.

Thanks Zampano, your input is appreciated.

Even 1.2 tons is high estimate for these stones but close to being realistic in my opinion.

Zam, you said 2.18 tons in your post.