Mito Uzumaki vs Kisame Hoshigaki (w/the Samahada)

Originally posted by psycho gundam

the uzumaki clan excelled at seals, even the legacy left to kushina centered around maintaining a seal coupled with her having special chackra that subdues bijuu. how this parlays into sheer fighting ability baffles me. at best she has what you just mentioned but that's nothing to write home about, she's not even dressed in battle attire.

Kyuubi chakra mode grants insane physical prowess similar to that of Raikage, even the clones.

*Yawn* "I don't want to consider an ability so I'll pretend it's not there," isn't an argument, and your pretending not to hear people explain stuff to you is just sad.

kisame's shark haduken. end

Has to hit, has to get it off.

As far as being dressed in battle attire goes....

Tsunade fights in heels. Danzo fights in robes that should get in the way after a while. And Sai fights in a shirt that leaves his gut as a big target. Among others....like Naruto...and his jumpsuit.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
As far as being dressed in battle attire goes....

Tsunade fights in heels. Danzo fights in robes that should get in the way after a while. And Sai fights in a shirt that leaves his gut as a big target. Among others....like Naruto...and his jumpsuit.

Akatsuki fights in big cloaks, Sasuke fights with a shirt he had to take off to use his 2nd stage cursed seal, and some chunin literally fights with bandages covering *both* eyes 🙂

Now that I think about it.....Lee and Guy probably fight in the best attire for battle. haermm

Good lord, so, now people think Mito is above Killer Bee? That is a lot of credit to give someone with like a few panels to her name.

This was originally thought to be some kind of battlezone thing apparently.

And I don't really consider her above Bee. Above Kisame, who just happens to be a good match up for someone like Bee. Anyone with speed comparable to A though would be a bad match up for someone like Kisame.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Good lord, so, now people think Mito is above Killer Bee? That is a lot of credit to give someone with like a few panels to her name.

Not exactly. Bee has biju ball when she almost certainly doesn't. And, IMO, Bee could've fought Kisame a lot smarter and won pretty solidly, if he used a less chakra-heavy method.

We have seen that having control of the Kyuubi's chakra does make one a beast in direct combat.

Also, number of panels = power is a weird connection to make. The Sage doesn't exactly have a lot either 🙂 If all we know about someone is one super-strong ability, then yes, we rank them high!

Which reminds me, you never actually gave the Sage a ranking did you? 😛

Yes, this is true. In his case because it's hard to guess the *upper* bounds! SS+, SSS-, SSS, would all be reasonable.

I certainly wouldn't think to argue he's *weak* due to his lack of page time ^^

I think SSS would work nicely. Dun really need the + or - there. That level would probably be God in the Naruto verse....

Jashin can great immortality. His rank? 😛

Originally posted by Q99
I certainly wouldn't think to argue he's *weak* due to his lack of page time ^^

comparing the Sage to Mito is ridiculous just because both lack page time...

the Sage actually has feats, which while few, are enough to cement his status, reputation, and legacy...

the same can not be said of Mito...

Bee has speed on par with A, and is in fact greater than A... At base.

The only difference between Bee and Mito is that based on feats, Bee is much more powerful.

Comparing the Sage to Mito is ridiculous. Mito wouldn't stand a chance against the veritable God of the Naruto verse.

However, his feats come from things Tobi has said. Which is where the information that Mito possess the same mode as Naruto comes from.

Naruto's mode itself is what puts him in S+. Mito had an even stronger Kyuubi sealed in her and is implied to have that same mode.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Bee has speed on par with A, and is in fact greater than A... At base.

The only difference between Bee and Mito is that based on feats, Bee is much more powerful.

?

A calls himself the fastest shinobi alive. Bee doesn't disagree with this. Bee, in Bijuu mode(version 1 anyway), was not fast enough to hit Sasuke without a surprise attack(or his unorthodox sword fighting methods). A outright blitzed him.

Where has Bee ever outran A? mmm

the blurb about mito just points out her ability to sense evil, and at best extrapolate some of naruto's enhanced physical traits. the sage on the other hand created everything in the manga. the foreseeable end goal of the main badguy is to become on par with the sage. the most powerful exhibitions of power in the manga are cute compared to the things the sage was said to have done, and they were "confirmed" by tobi (he IS a liar though)

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
This was originally thought to be some kind of battlezone thing apparently.

And I don't really consider her above Bee. Above Kisame, who just happens to be a good match up for someone like Bee. Anyone with speed comparable to A though would be a bad match up for someone like Kisame.

as for him being in trouble: his water techniques change the landscape to his favor and so far have been 100% successful in doing so, it also allows for more versatility in the forms of water clones and shark missiles. he's nearly if not stronger than base killer bee and has insane damage soak even prior to utilizing samahada for recovery

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Comparing the Sage to Mito is ridiculous. Mito wouldn't stand a chance against the veritable God of the Naruto verse.

Not saying she would 🙂 Just noting the oddness of the position that some people that "Few pages = must be weak!".

psycho gundam
the blurb about mito just points out her ability to sense evil, and at best extrapolate some of naruto's enhanced physical traits.

And chakra capacity. In other words, enough to reach the S+ category on it's own.

i chose kisame cause he would be fundamentally handicapped in this fight for obvious reasons,

What? He's the anti-jinchuuriki specialist of the Akatsuki 🙂

Putting the anti-jinchuuriki specialist against a jinchuuriki is not much of a handicap to say the least ^^

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
A calls himself the fastest shinobi alive. Bee doesn't disagree with this. Bee, in Bijuu mode(version 1 anyway), was not fast enough to hit Sasuke without a surprise attack(or his unorthodox sword fighting methods). A outright blitzed him.

Where has Bee ever outran A? mmm

Only we then see Bee react to and overpower A when he stops holding back.

A might be faster, but it's not by a signifigant amount.

Originally posted by Q99
What? He's the anti-jinchuuriki specialist of the Akatsuki 🙂

Putting the anti-jinchuuriki specialist against a jinchuuriki is not much of a handicap to say the least ^^

regardless, kisame doesn't need it to take care of her even with the best feats of another applied to her. it's simply not enough added strength/offense to assume she could pose serious harm to kisame of all people: the tank of akatsuki. naruto hasn't shown any real moves with the K-cloak to say he'd steamroll kisame (without rasengan, etc)

Originally posted by NemeBro
Only we then see Bee react to and overpower A when he stops holding back.

A might be faster, but it's not by a signifigant amount.

Reacting to A isn't very hard.

Well I don't see it. Bee is stronger, for sure, but I've never seen A go fullspeed against him. 😛

Of course, Mito has Naruto's mode. Which outran fullspeed A. awesome

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Naruto's mode. Which outran fullspeed A. awesome

A missed the only clean hit he was going for..barely. naruto could have died before that

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
And I don't really consider her above Bee. Above Kisame, who just happens to be a good match up for someone like Bee.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Anyone with speed comparable to A though would be a bad match up for someone like Kisame.