Titans (Immortals) vs. Balrog

Originally posted by NemeBro
You are aware that the Balrog didn't actually swing his whip at Gandalf before Gandalf crumbled the floor, right?

Are you trolling?

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Gandalf was wide open. If the whip is really so freaking uber the Balrog could have taken him out right there.

Of course since the whip did literally jack and shit, claiming that it would be able to take out the Titans is ludicrous.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I was mostly just mentioning it because the one time it swung the whip, it hit him.

Frankly, the Balrog could just run around. The Titans won't be able to stop it, and it would crush them by moving. They can do not a single thing to it.

As seen, above, it swung it before that and failed to hit him.

Perhaps. I don't really know. I mean, Gandalf was able to hurt it with his sword. Though I doubt it would be able to crush them considering it would be moving in slow motion ot them.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why do you hate Lord of the Rings?

And explain the second part.

😐

Spoiler:
I was joking.

Also you are dumb and I don't really care anymore. X_X

Originally posted by Nephthys
YouTube video

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Gandalf was wide open. If the whip is really so freaking uber the Balrog could have taken him out right there.

Of course since the whip did literally jack and shit, claiming that it would be able to take out the Titans is ludicrous.

It cracked the whip.

Are you under the impression that it cracking the whip over six feet to Gandalf's left means it was trying to hit him? 😐 Are you seriously trying to claim that Gandalf not actually moving was able to avoid an "attack"?

I mean, it later hit Gandalf when Gandalf was sort of in motion, and the Balrog was further away, couldn't really see him, and falling down a ravine...

I mean, I guess you could try to claim that was a legitimate attack. 😐 You'd look ridiculous for doing so though.

As seen, above, it swung it before that and failed to hit him.

Perhaps. I don't really know. I mean, Gandalf was able to hurt it with his sword. Though I doubt it would be able to crush them considering it would be moving in slow motion ot them.

Read above.

A. Gandalf being able to hurt it and make it reel alone is a feat of super strength. Or Glamdring is really awesome, one or the other.

B. Glamdring is quite a bit larger than some tiny daggers. I mean hell, the Cave Troll took more damage than that.

😐

Spoiler:
I was joking.

How could I have known that?

Also, no, you sir are the dumb one.

The Stupid Brigade is in full force in this thread. My God.

Balrog stomps. The end.

Of course he stomps.

-The Titans may be fast but it took them forever to get up that cage. And if they jump to attack anything higher than the Barlog's legs they lose their momentum and become vulnerable in mid-air.
-Gandalf blocked that whip with his magic and will. How do you guys think Gandalf survived the entire fight. Gandalf doesn't cast spells. He lifts his staff and things happen. This ain't Harry Potter. So saying that the Balrog's whip is harmless is absurd.
-It is an extremely enclosed area with some tunnels. The Balrog can whip and smash the walls down and whip the Titans apart.
-The Balrog is huge! And the Titans have shards of metal that they found around the area. Not very good tools for the task at hand.

Originally posted by NemeBro
How could I have known that?

Also, no, you sir are the dumb one.

I called Peter Jackson a witch.

That was my oh so subtle hint that I was not being serious.

I assumed it was some kind of British thing.

Go sip on yer tea, and leave vs. threads to Amurrican Heroes like me.

Oh it was. The British hate witches. Especially MAN-witches. ****ing *****.

I'd respond with something pithy, but thats exactly what I'm going to do, so it would kind of undermine the point. The tea does taste good though.

You fat bastard our Limey time will come and when it does I will personally boil you in tea.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh it was. The British hate witches. Especially MAN-witches. ****ing *****.

I'd respond with something pithy, but thats exactly what I'm going to do, so it would kind of undermine the point. The tea does taste good though.

You fat bastard our Limey time will come and when it does I will personally boil you in tea.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
So you can't prove it.

If you can't prove something, you should probably shut up and not claim it. 🙂

After his power was broken yeah.

Oh irony. How sweet it tastes. You claimed the blinding light hurts and can practically kill people yet there's no proof it ever physically damaged or almost killed anyone. You're not intelligent. You're like another Skip Bayless kinda guy. I am sure you don't know who that is because you're ignorant.

Saruman may not be as durable as Gandalf, but he is clearly more durable than a human, silly.

Show me a sword cutting Gandalf. 🙂

A good feat for him, not the Titans.[/B]

Such a weak argument. It's like an Aunt May argument for comic book posters. If you are suggesting Gandalf can survive a direct sword attack to his flesh without any magical protection then prove it. You made the claim and since we can logically deduce Saruman and Gandalf are of the same ilk then a knife cuts him just the same as it did to Saruman.

If it's a good feat for the gods who were getting decimated by the Titans then comparatively they are pretty formidable.

Due to apparently rendering the gods' powerless, rather than being powerful themselves, as well as outnumbering them. And I trust the poster who said that, whoever they may be, far more than you.

Also, a quick look at wikipedia tells me that the Titans were all killed by Zeus alone, crushing them under the temple. Lol.

I'll go ahead and prove myself more of a man than you are and admit I misinterpreted that scene from the movie, it not being physical, but rather a holy ward that pushes off evil creatures. [/B]

They weren't all killed in the temple. It's cute that you argue in threads you aren't even familiar with because you're a troll. You're like robtard you argue who you like more without being knowledgeable about the other side. I detest fanboys such as yourself.

The Witch Kings' feats are not the equivelant of the Titans, the WK had magic that enabled him to do that, which the Titans lack.

Gandalf>Titans obviously.[/B]

Gandalf would be decimated by the Titans. Far too fast and they'd cleave him in two in moments. The gods and Titans displayed far faster speeds than Gandalf at his best let alone how he was consistently portrayed in the movies in gigantic battles or against the cave troll.

Not seeing any proof here, will assume you concede, moving on.

With a sneak attack, yeah.

Individually some Hobbits have proven above the Titans, obviously.

Because he is weak to fire. And Aragorn=/=Titans, clearly he is stronger. 🙂

I guess you missed the multi-kilometer freefall.

So what you are saying is that the Balrog is so durable and resistant to damage, that even with magic weapons it took a day for Gandalf to kill it?

Delightful, glad we are on the same page.

Obviously, the gods are just very heavy, not strong. 🙂

When Zeus tore down the temple, did he not kill the Titans?

The funny thing is that I haven't watched the movie and I am still showing up your illiterate ass. [/B]

No, they haven't but then again you're ignorant so you don't have the faintest clue.

Aragorn would lose to Theseus let alone take on the Titans or the gods. That would be laughable but then again you're ignorant.

Poseidon survived a multi kilometer fall as well and not only that created a tidal wave because of it. That guy got killed by the Titans.

Gandalf needed the group's help to defeat a Cave Troll. That thing wouldn't last 2 seconds against the Titans but Gandalf needed help. Gandalf isn't that formidable imo. The guy went down to Saruman against very weak attacks which caused little damage.

Zeus proved his strength but then again you are ignorant you don't know any better.

No, since they were seen fighting the gods in the heavens.

The only thing you proved is ignorance.

Originally posted by Robtard
Says the guy who makes claims he can't prove and then dances.

Prove it, but you can't, so just stfu already. Do yourself a favor and google-up before you make claims.

Cave-troll isn't in this fight. It took magic/lightning to kill the Balrog after days of fighting. Keep dodging that.

Yet despite the Gods' "making tidal wave powers" all it took to take down a Titan was a length of chain and/or other blunt force trauma or blades. Balrog can bring more with its super-strength, magical weapons and insane durability. It wins, easily too.

Why do you debate movies you've not paid attention too? Tired of having to explain LoTR to you.

The character that defeated the Balrog needed aid against a cave troll. I know you didn't watch the movie in like 8 years but come on already brother.

The Titans have supernatural strength obviously since humans can't even really do anything to the gods. One god took out like 8 or 9 of Hyperion's forces in what seems like less than a second based on what was going on. The only time a human killed one Titans he used the epirus bow. You're not bright.

The Balrog can't even best an old man who needed aid against one slow cave troll this thing is getting dominated by beings supernaturally strong and far too fast for the Balrog to even touch.

Originally posted by Mindset
You can't be serious.

Im sorry Quanchi, but you are striking me as ignoring all forms of logic at this point.

Contrary to Yoda's claim, size does matter in a melee fight. The Titans can't strike much higher than the Balrog's calf, unless he gives the an opening, which he will, obviously. But the thing is, watch that clip of the fall. That would kill any Titan on the first hit, let alone the seventh. Their speed isn't enough here. They die.

And btw, Aragorn would kill Theseus ^.^ To bad this isn't that particular thread.

Originally posted by Pwned
Im sorry Quanchi, but you are striking me as ignoring all forms of logic at this point.

Contrary to Yoda's claim, size does matter in a melee fight. The Titans can't strike much higher than the Balrog's calf, unless he gives the an opening, which he will, obviously. But the thing is, watch that clip of the fall. That would kill any Titan on the first hit, let alone the seventh. Their speed isn't enough here. They die.

And btw, Aragorn would kill Theseus ^.^ To bad this isn't that particular thread.

The Titans were shown moving at levels beyond human speed and human speed was enough in combat for Gandalf by himself to take down the Balrog.

I am not saying the Titans are as durable as the balrog I am saying their attacks will hurt it, their speed will put it at an even bigger disadvantage it was at against gandalf, etc.

Theseus would beat Aragorn I am sorry but you're wrong again. Try to clear your thoughts and to come back at a later time when your feeling ok.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not derailing the thread into a piranhas vs. great white shark flesh kind of debate.

Make better analogies.

Oh irony. How sweet it tastes. You claimed the blinding light hurts and can practically kill people yet there's no proof it ever physically damaged or almost killed anyone.

I guess you missed the part where I admitted that was wrong.

You're not intelligent. You're like another Skip Bayless kinda guy. I am sure you don't know who that is because you're ignorant.

Ad hominem attacks without addressing any of my points? Delightful. What a petulant child you are.

Saruman can be cut with a knife just like a human being can be cut by a knife.

You are aware that you don't technically have to be immune to bladed weaponry to have superhuman durability, right? Oh and once more, his power was broken at that point.

The Titans would rip him in half in no time.

I'm not saying Saruman would best all the Titans at once. Only that the Balrog, due to having properties Saruman does not, namely size, would crush them.

This is the guy who bested the Gandalf that bested the Balrog.

Lol A>B>C logic.

So for over a day's time the Balrog was unable to defeat Gandalf which Saruman did in what was likely a few minutes with minor cuts and bruising attacks.

The Balrog killed Gandalf. And... You're not addressing my points, namely that the Balrog is too large, strong, and durable to be killed by wittle daggers. You're sidestepping my argument entirely by hanging on A>B>C logic.

Such a weak argument. It's like an Aunt May argument for comic book posters. If you are suggesting Gandalf can survive a direct sword attack to his flesh without any magical protection then prove it.

He fell multiple kilometers, survived, and proceeded to fight the Balrog for a day?

Though I was mostly trolling, to be perfectly honest. I'm not going to say that Gandalf would be completely immune to swords (I don't feel like calcing how much damage the fall would have done), partially because of a little concept you are not intelligent enough to understand called PSI. The force behind a sword is spread over a much thinner area.

Are you under the impression that swords and blades could not cut the Titans? Do they even have durability feats?

You made the claim and since we can logically deduce Saruman and Gandalf are of the same ilk then a knife cuts him just the same as it did to Saruman.

His power was broken.

If it's a good feat for the gods who were getting decimated by the Titans then comparatively they are pretty formidable.

Who made the gods powerless ? What are you even muttering about now ?

I double-checked with Robtard (Because God knows I won't get any straight answers out of you), and yeah, apparently this poster was wrong, ignore that.

They weren't all killed in the temple. It's cute that you argue in threads you aren't even familiar with because you're a troll. You're like robtard you argue who you like more without being knowledgeable about the other side. I detest fanboys such as yourself.

Man, this is the first time I've seen you rage like this.

Glad I've struck a nerve.

If you haven't noticed though, I've been trying to pry feats or explanations from you for a while now, and have gotten nothing.

According to wiki, Zeus took down the temple and killed the Titans.

You say this is not true.

Explain what really happened then.

The Titans are far more formidable than someone with a numbers advantage to lose to one guy with a torch and sword. That's pathetic. Then again none of this matters at all since you haven't seen the movie. You're just ignorant.

Fire is their weakness silly monkey.

Also, the only reason the Titans were a threat at all was a numbers advantage.

Oh, and once more, the Titans don't have magic to manage this feat.

Gandalf would be decimated by the Titans. Far too fast and they'd cleave him in two in moments. The gods and Titans displayed far faster speeds than Gandalf at his best let alone how he was consistently portrayed in the movies in gigantic battles or against the cave troll.

You know, I probably wouldn't argue Gandalf against all the Titans, but Gandalf is not the Balrog. The Balrog is large enough that, really, it doesn't need to aim much to hit the Titans.

Also, Gandalf the Grey didn't really fight that much besides when he fought Saruman and the Balrog. He was mostly just protecting the Hobbits against the Cave Troll.

You need to watch the movie. I can't post clips of a movie still out at the theatre.

Weird how Robtard managed it...

And haha, no, if you think I'm shelling out money to see a mediocre at best mindless action flick, you're off your rocker. I'd even expect a decent elaboration on the random statements you make, in lieu of a video. Though admittedly I'd have trouble believing it...

No, they haven't but then again you're ignorant so you don't have the faintest clue.

Shelob>Titans. 131

Aragorn would lose to Theseus let alone take on the Titans or the gods. That would be laughable but then again you're ignorant.

All the Titans? Probably, Aragorn is ultimately just one dude. Individually? You know, after Placidity pointed out their super speed, maybe so.

Poseidon survived a multi kilometer fall as well and not only that created a tidal wave because of it. That guy got killed by the Titans.

Wow, really? The God of the Sea survived jumping in water? Go figure. 😐

See, elaboration like this is what I was looking for. His power over the sea means jack shit when he is not in it (Assuming he was one of the gods to die in that video).

Gandalf needed the group's help to defeat a Cave Troll. That thing wouldn't last 2 seconds against the Titans but Gandalf needed help.

The Cave Troll when stabbed by a long javelin didn't even flinch.

Little daggers? Pft, gtfo.

Even stabs to the head and back of the neck didn't kill it right away.

But sure, I guess that all the Titans combined would take out the Cave Troll.

Balrog>>>Cave Troll.

Gandalf isn't that formidable imo. The guy went down to Saruman against very weak attacks which caused little damage.

Because he is so durable. 😄

Zeus proved his strength but then again you are ignorant you don't know any better.

What is Zeus' feat?

No, since they were seen fighting the gods in the heavens.

Can anyone confirm this? Surely I can't be faulted for not trusting a single thing Quan says?

The only thing you proved is ignorance.

You're so butthurt.

It's fantastic.

Nice to see that you could not prove they could hurt the Balrog with little daggers by the way.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is. That's why people usually don't take him seriously. He also argues against characters he has no idea about due to being a huge fan of the other side.

You must have absolutely no self-awareness at all to seriously believe this.

Are you aware that you are a forum pariah, considered a, in the nicest way I can phrase it, severely illogical and disingenuous poster in multiple forums?

Also, I admitted my mistake, since you know, I'm the better and more intelligent man. 😄

Originally posted by NemeBro
Make better analogies.

I guess you missed the part where I admitted that was wrong.

Ad hominem attacks without addressing any of my points? Delightful. What a petulant child you are.

You are aware that you don't technically have to be immune to bladed weaponry to have superhuman durability, right? Oh and once more, his power was broken at that point.

I'm not saying Saruman would best all the Titans at once. Only that the Balrog, due to having properties Saruman does not, namely size, would crush them.

Lol A>B>C logic. [/B]

The Balrog wouldn't crush them since it's more than one foe and since they possess speed far greater than gandalf, one lone foe he couldn't get a direct hit on for over a day. Your case is hopeless and it's all biased as you freely admit you didn't watch the movie so you just argued with who you liked more or were more familiar with.

You do abc logic all the time but the fact remains anyway you look at it the Titans come out on top.

The Balrog killed Gandalf. And... You're not addressing my points, namely that the Balrog is too large, strong, and durable to be killed by wittle daggers. You're sidestepping my argument entirely by hanging on A>B>C logic.

He fell multiple kilometers, survived, and proceeded to fight the Balrog for a day?
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Yes, if he fought one opponent who is far slower than one Titan who defeated the Balrog and fought him for over a day and there are dozens of them what could possibly lead you to conclusion the Titans get stomped here.

Though I was mostly trolling, to be perfectly honest. I'm not going to say that Gandalf would be completely immune to swords (I don't feel like calcing how much damage the fall would have done), partially because of a little concept you are not intelligent enough to understand called PSI. The force behind a sword is spread over a much thinner area.

Are you under the impression that swords and blades could not cut the Titans? Do they even have durability feats?[/B]

No, I am just trying to show you their blades cut and killed someone capable of creating massive PSI damage and a tidal wave you ignorant human being. You aren't even bright enough to stay consistent within your own bs spewed right back at you.

His power was broken.[/B]

I double-checked with Robtard (Because God knows I won't get any straight answers out of you), and yeah, apparently this poster was wrong, ignore that.

Man, this is the first time I've seen you rage like this.

Glad I've struck a nerve.

If you haven't noticed though, I've been trying to pry feats or explanations from you for a while now, and have gotten nothing.[/B]

This section of the board actually has maturity unlike other sections of the board with tattle tales and mods actually asking people to ignore certain posters. You should see me on other boards I am much more vulgar and verbally combative than what I am like on this part but then again you deserve it since you flame all the time yourself.
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According to wiki, Zeus took down the temple and killed the Titans.

You say this is not true.

Explain what really happened then.[/B]

Fire is their weakness silly monkey.

Also, the only reason the Titans were a threat at all was a numbers advantage.

Oh, and once more, the Titans don't have magic to manage this feat.[/B]

You know, I probably wouldn't argue Gandalf against all the Titans, but Gandalf is not the Balrog. The Balrog is large enough that, really, it doesn't need to aim much to hit the Titans.

Also, Gandalf the Grey didn't really fight that much besides when he fought Saruman and the Balrog. He was mostly just protecting the Hobbits against the Cave Troll.

Weird how Robtard managed it...[/B]

The Titans will evade the strikes since they are far faster. If Gandalf can do so and he's one guy the balrog is focusing on and far slower how does it make sense that the Balrog starts just merking Titans left and right.

Gandalf did fight and didn't really do a good job of protecting thank goodness Legolas was there to help kill the thing.

And haha, no, if you think I'm shelling out money to see a mediocre at best mindless action flick, you're off your rocker. I'd even expect a decent elaboration on the random statements you make, in lieu of a video. Though admittedly I'd have trouble believing it...

Shelob>Titans. 131

All the Titans? Probably, Aragorn is ultimately just one dude. Individually? You know, after Placidity pointed out their super speed, maybe so.
[/B]

Not. Even. Close.

Aragorn couldn't beat a Titan let alone Theseus but then again you didn't see the movie but are still here trolling on by.

Wow, really? The God of the Sea survived jumping in water? Go figure. 😐

See, elaboration like this is what I was looking for. His power over the sea means jack shit when he is not in it (Assuming he was one of the gods to die in that video).
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No, it doesn't. Sure it helps but the gods clearly were very powerful see Zeus' temple destroying feat or Poseidon's feat.

The Cave Troll when stabbed by a long javelin didn't even flinch.

Little daggers? Pft, gtfo.

Even stabs to the head and back of the neck didn't kill it right away.

But sure, I guess that all the Titans combined would take out the Cave Troll.

Balrog>>>Cave Troll.[/B]

What little daggers ? You keep saying little daggers I have no idea what you even mean it seems like a poor attempt to rile up an intelligent, informed, reasonable poster.

The Titans would maul it in moments at their worst.

I agree but the Cave troll posed a threat to Gandalf as well. The Balrog while superior wasn't impressive because Gandalf himself beat it.

Because he is so durable. 😄

What is Zeus' feat?

Can anyone confirm this? Surely I can't be faulted for not trusting a single thing Quan says? [/B]

Watch the movie.

Why debate something you are entirely ignorant on ? It seems so fanboyish oh wait it is.

You're so butthurt.

It's fantastic.

Nice to see that you could not prove they could hurt the Balrog with little daggers by the way. [/B]

They didn't just have little daggers or use little daggers. You don't know or care you just want the LOTR guy to win.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hahahahaha what?

You must have absolutely no self-awareness at all to seriously believe this.

Are you aware that you are a forum pariah, considered a, in the nicest way I can phrase it, severely illogical and disingenuous poster in multiple forums?

Also, I admitted my mistake, since you know, I'm the better and more intelligent man. 😄

Says the guy who hangs out with most of these people as his only friends on msn. I have always felt for the people shunned irl. I hope things get better.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why is everything about dancing with you ? It was a simple analogy and then you got angry over it.

The character that defeated the Balrog needed aid against a cave troll. I know you didn't watch the movie in like 8 years but come on already brother.

The Titans have supernatural strength obviously since humans can't even really do anything to the gods. One god took out like 8 or 9 of Hyperion's forces in what seems like less than a second based on what was going on. The only time a human killed one Titans he used the epirus bow. You're not bright.

The Balrog can't even best an old man who needed aid against one slow cave troll this thing is getting dominated by beings supernaturally strong and far too fast for the Balrog to even touch.

Despite being told, re-told, shown and re-shown, you still haven't grasped that the Balrog has super-strength in kind and wields weapons that are arguably greater than a length of chain.

Titans lose, cos they can't harm the Balrog, they can only futilely stab at its legs and probably burn themselves in the process due it's magical fire. Stop embarrassing yourself with your Immortals love and LoTR ignorance.

Originally posted by Robtard
Despite being told, re-told, shown and re-shown, you still haven't grasped that the Balrog has super-strength in kind and wields weapons that are arguably greater than a length of chain.

Titans lose, cos they can't harm the Balrog, they can only futilely stab at its legs and probably burn themselves in the process due it's magical fire. Stop embarrassing yourself with your Immortals love and LoTR ignorance.

Based off of what can't they hurt the balrog ? They hurt and were killing gods who can move far faster than a Balrog can even think.

The Balrog killed one old man who also killed him in the process. It took him over a day against one opponent far slower than one Titan yet you claim they all get beaten. Laughable.