Titans (Immortals) vs. Balrog

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Balrog killed one old man who also killed him in the process. It took him over a day against one opponent far slower than one Titan yet you claim they all get beaten. Laughable.

Gandalf after defeating the Balrog reached the next stage of enlightenment or whatever you wanna call it.

He also hit the Balrog with lightning bolts and mana charged sword strikes + a force blast.

Don't use ABC Logic to downplay the Balrog.

The loose bits of scrap metal the Titans had to fight with are nothing but chisels when considering the bulk of the Balrogs frame + the inferno surrounding those bones.
The Titans can't jump less they lose their momentum ---not like they could anyway they have no jumping feats. They couldn;t even climb the cage before Zeus ripped the mountain apart.
They may be fast on ground but who cares. Don't ignore me. 😒

Originally posted by the ninjak
Gandalf after defeating the Balrog reached the next stage of enlightenment or whatever you wanna call it.

He also hit the Balrog with lightning bolts and mana charged sword strikes + a force blast.

Don't use ABC Logic to downplay the Balrog.

The loose bits of scrap metal the Titans had to fight with are nothing but chisels when considering the bulk of the Balrogs frame + the inferno surrounding those bones.
The Titans can't jump less they lose their momentum ---not like they could anyway they have no jumping feats. They couldn;t even climb the cage before Zeus ripped the mountain apart.
They may be fast on ground but who cares. Don't ignore me. 😒

Yes, he did have one lightning charged attack after a full's day of fighting him one on one. Gandalf died and came back because he was pushed to his limit the Titans won't be pushed to their limits.

The Balrog wasn't impressive when discussing the Titans. They were mauling gods capable of far more power than the Balrog. See the Poseidon or Zeus feat as proof.

Gandalf isn't some expert jumper nor is he anywhere near as fast as the Titans yet by himself he was good enough to solo the Balrog. Zeus was extremely fast and the fight was slowed down to show us what was happening we see how fast even the Titans were moving when Theseus was first coming to and how the Titans were blurs running out of the cage.

The Titans are too fast, too strong, and too high in numbers to lose to one Balrog who lost to one slower, far less formidable opponent in Gandalf.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is the first time you quoted me so don't ever think I'd ignore you when you quote me prepare to face the fires of Mordor.

Yes, he did have one lightning charged attack after a full's day of fighting him one on one. Gandalf died and came back because he was pushed to his limit the Titans won't be pushed to their limits.

The Balrog wasn't impressive when discussing the Titans. They were mauling gods capable of far more power than the Balrog. See the Poseidon or Zeus feat as proof.

Gandalf isn't some expert jumper nor is he anywhere near as fast as the Titans yet by himself he was good enough to solo the Balrog. Zeus was extremely fast and the fight was slowed down to show us what was happening we see how fast even the Titans were moving when Theseus was first coming to and how the Titans were blurs running out of the cage.

The Titans are too fast, too strong, and too high in numbers to lose to one Balrog who lost to one slower, far less formidable opponent in Gandalf.

Yes the Titans were fast but they were also savage and bestial. It took them forever to climb that cage and attack Zeus. How long would it have taken to-
1. Watch Athena die and mope about it.
2. Get on top of the cage.
3. Think for a bit as he turned his gaze unto Poseidon being "unrealistically" overwhelmed.
4. Activate the ropes that would eventually bring the whole mountain down.
5. Gather Athena into his arms.
6. Look up to the sky and teleport out.

That's the Titan's reaction, speed and tactical ability under such a scenario. Pretty crap.

Under the current environment. A Balrog would start lashing about, carving up Titans whilst carving in their escape holes.

-Those who remain in the close confines get smashed or get stuck in their little tunnels.
-Those who attack with their metal shards run into huge legs that are consumed in furious flames. Their weapons too small to do any real damage to the creature's durability and frame.
-Those who jump to attack the creature's upper body lose their momentum and get swiped, grabbed or pounded into a wall. And even if they reached their target it could only have a small amount of effect due to what I mentioned above.
-Those stuck in the tunnels are screwed. They claw at the rocks whilst their allies fall.

The environment is pretty small and the Titans showed little to no agility.

The Titans are nothing more than ankle biters.
There is a difference between a wizard that can block all offensive strikes from a elemental and apply neccesary force back. And 30 or so Titans in a confined space with no decent weapons running through tunnels and taking snipe shots. A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

No A>B>C Logic here. Just the facts.

And lets discuss the biggest gripe of the film. The inaccuracy of Poseidon's ocean feat compared to his battle feats. A humanoid who can fly from orbit and smash into an ocean creating a tidal wave is far more powerful than the being we saw during that final fight!!!

A human being jumping from a bridge can bust his gut wide open.
A being flying at those speeds into an ocean from that height ensures his durability is far beyond being cut but random metal.
It's an inaccuracy and one I refuse to accept as an example of the God's battle feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Balrog was super slow so even if I do grant you super strength it doesn't super matter.

Based off of what can't they hurt the balrog ? They hurt and were killing gods who can move far faster than a Balrog can even think.

The Balrog killed one old man who also killed him in the process. It took him over a day against one opponent far slower than one Titan yet you claim they all get beaten. Laughable.

Point was, you still haven't deduced that that Balrog has super-duper strength, despite being told/shown multiple times.

Based on the Balrog having a very high level of durability and being on fire. It has more protection than the Titans can counter.

Downplaying Gandalf still. A fool's tactics, but it's all you have.

So tell me, the Titans are killing the Balrog by stabbing at it's fiery legs; this is how it goes down? Lol.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Yes the Titans were fast but they were also savage and bestial. It took them forever to climb that cage and attack Zeus. How long would it have taken to-
1. Watch Athena die and mope about it.
2. Get on top of the cage.
3. Think for a bit as he turned his gaze unto Poseidon being "unrealistically" overwhelmed.
4. Activate the ropes that would eventually bring the whole mountain down.
5. Gather Athena into his arms.
6. Look up to the sky and teleport out.

That's the Titan's reaction, speed and tactical ability under such a scenario. Pretty crap.

Under the current environment. A Balrog would start lashing about, carving up Titans whilst carving in their escape holes. [/B]

-Those who remain in the close confines get smashed or get stuck in their little tunnels.
-Those who attack with their metal shards run into huge legs that are consumed in furious flames. Their weapons too small to do any real damage to the creature's durability and frame.
-Those who jump to attack the creature's upper body lose their momentum and get swiped, grabbed or pounded into a wall. And even if they reached their target it could only have a small amount of effect due to what I mentioned above.
-Those stuck in the tunnels are screwed. They claw at the rocks whilst their allies fall.[/B]

The environment is pretty small and the Titans showed little to no agility.[/B]

The Titans are nothing more than ankle biters.
There is a difference between a wizard that can block all offensive strikes from a elemental and apply neccesary force back. And 30 or so Titans in a confined space with no decent weapons running through tunnels and taking snipe shots. A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

No A>B>C Logic here. Just the facts.[/B]

And lets discuss the biggest gripe of the film. The inaccuracy of Poseidon's ocean feat compared to his battle feats. A humanoid who can fly from orbit and smash into an ocean creating a tidal wave is far more powerful than the being we saw during that final fight!!!

A human being jumping from a bridge can bust his gut wide open.
A being flying at those speeds into an ocean from that height ensures his durability is far beyond being cut but random metal.
It's an inaccuracy and one I refuse to accept as an example of the God's battle feats. [/B]

I am glad you admit to refusing to accept it. I don't refuse anything those who do are biased.

Originally posted by Robtard
Point was, you still haven't deduced that that Balrog has super-duper strength, despite being told/shown multiple times.

Based on the Balrog having a very high level of durability and being on fire. It has more protection than the Titans can counter.

Downplaying Gandalf still. A fool's tactics, but it's all you have.

So tell me, the Titans are killing the Balrog by stabbing at it's fiery legs; this is how it goes down? Lol.

Based off of what ?

We see the Titans powerful enough to kill Poseidon and the damage he can cause to the ocean along with the durability of the feat. Wake up robbie.

I am simply citing what happened to Gandalf in the films. You want to ignore certain things I don't hence your bias.

The Titans destroy the Balrog's body due to their strength, insane speed, and numbers advantage.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Balrog's strength means nothing if it can't hit it's target. It seemed to struggle against a slower opponent with all it's focus and attention to one guy as opposed to many faster foes such as the Titans here.

Based off of what ?

We see the Titans powerful enough to kill Poseidon and the damage he can cause to the ocean along with the durability of the feat. Wake up robbie.

I am simply citing what happened to Gandalf in the films. You want to ignore certain things I don't hence your bias.

The Titans destroy the Balrog's body due to their strength, insane speed, and numbers advantage.

With 30 or so Titans running around, he's hitting some with his weapons, if only by chance, not that he actually needs to though, as they can't hurt him.

The film, maybe you should watch it as I'm tired of explaining scenes/feats to you concerning LoTR.

Probably because the Titans were the God's weakness, didn't you figure that out from the intro?

Incorrect, you're implying Gandalf is just some old geezer while ignoring his abilities and the feats he survived. It's all you have.

It took a magical blade/magic to harm/kill the Balrog and after days and days of fighting. Are the Titan's weapons magical? Are they resistance to fire as Gandalf is?

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it didn't take them forever what we see is being slowed down and is happening at a much faster pace.
1.Happens quickly.
2.Zeus is quite fast.
3.Poseidon is very fast and powerful.
4.Yes, Zeus did do so but was overwhelmed and had no choice but to teleport on out of there.
5.Happens quickly they are gods.
6.Quit being disingenuous.

Oh my god the time it took Zeus to look at Poseidon while he (oh my god, got his leg cut.) Should've been enough time for the Titans to swarm Zeus but NO.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, and to overwhelm multiple gods is quite a feat. The Balrog fought one weaker version of Gandalf who was easily bested by Saruman. That's not impressive to say it took him over aday to die as well as exhaust Gandalf to death. No, because in a confined space it didn't carve up a much slower Gandalf who is one target not multiple.

Originally posted by quanchi112
-Based on what Balrog feats.
-Based off of what attacks which the Balrog laughed off.
-Based off of what other than a claim you can't prove. The Titans are fighting gods capable of reacting before the balrog can even think to use his fire whip.
-No, you are just saying what you think will happen but it isn't based on any evidence.
Do you know who the Titans were going up against ? You claim no agility but their reaction time would make Gandalf the White blush.
Again you are just making things up. The feats of the gods are far more impressive than anything seen by the Balrog in terms of collateral damage and yet you so easily dismiss them dominating the gods.
Gandalf didn't need much room and without his staff still managed to take on the Balrog for over a day. I'd say the Titans easily dance all over a slow lumbering foe who can't get a bead on a slow old mage.
And the Balrog is far more powerful than Saruman who bested Gandalf in moments. The gods were very powerful and far faster than any LOTR characters.

I am glad you admit to refusing to accept it. I don't refuse anything those who do are biased.

Based on Logic.
More ABC Logic. And no real Logic.

1.Saruman defeated Gandalf because it was Sarumans time and place of power. Gandalf had to search deep inside to achieve the next level.
2.Your arguments mean that any speedster can beat a larger brick. Which is wrong on every scale.
3.Thinking that the Balrog's attacks can't break stone when it can survive the offensive damage it received is also nuts.

Your points haven't deterred me in the slightest.

Am I really making things up when I look at the size of the creature. And register its durability. See the offensive potential it has and apply it to these Titans? Maybe. But all the Titans have is speed. And it isn't enough.

Originally posted by Robtard
With 30 or so Titans running around, he's hitting some with his weapons, if only by chance, not that he actually needs to though, as they can't hurt him.

The film, maybe you should watch it as I'm tired of explaining scenes/feats to you concerning LoTR.

Probably because the Titans were the God's weakness, didn't you figure that out from the intro?

Incorrect, you're implying Gandalf is just some old geezer while ignoring his abilities and the feats he survived. It's all you have.

It took a magical blade/magic to harm/kill the Balrog and after days and days of fighting. Are the Titan's weapons magical? Are they resistance to fire as Gandalf is?

Concession accepted.

They weren't the gods weakness they were simply powerful enough to kill each other. Nowhere are they described as their weakness. Then again you didn't see the film just the preview.

I am saying he is an old man and that he's struggled against a cave troll and was handily routed by Saruman. Those are facts.

The Titans are powerful enough to kill gods who are far more powerful and fast for the balrog. What does magic have to do with anything ? Honestly try to make sense.

The fire won't touch them just like it didn't touch gandalf.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They are too fast for his attacks. His attacks weren't even good enough to hit and kill gandalf.

Concession accepted.

They weren't the gods weakness they were simply powerful enough to kill each other. Nowhere are they described as their weakness. Then again you didn't see the film just the preview.

I am saying he is an old man and that he's struggled against a cave troll and was handily routed by Saruman. Those are facts.

The Titans are powerful enough to kill gods who are far more powerful and fast for the balrog. What does magic have to do with anything ? Honestly try to make sense.

The fire won't touch them just like it didn't touch gandalf.

Like flies and a fly swatter, chance gives you hits. It's not like the Titans were tactical geniuses, then literally ran in for the slaughter, as most cannon fodder do in films. Watch the clip I posted again. Watch it twice.

Funny, you've failed to prove a single point of yours.

Yeah, you didn't pay attention in the intro, despite paying to see Immortals twice by your own accounts. I was smart enough to download it. It was to illustrate that the "Immortals" really weren't invincible.

Yet ignore everything else he did/feats.

Again, didn't pay attention in LoTR, Balrog can't be harmed my standard weapons. Gandalf used magic.

LoL,so they'll someone get close enough to stab it's legs yet avoid the fire/heat that its body is made of?

More ignorance from you, Gandalf is immune to fire, we see this at least twice in the LoTR films.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Oh my god the time it took Zeus to look at Poseidon while he (oh my god, got his leg cut.) Should've been enough time for the Titans to swarm Zeus but NO.

You keep comparing this fight to the Balrog's fight with Gandalf. Gandalf displayed particular feats. As I mentioned that could take the Balrog down. The Titans never showed such feats.[/B]

Based on Logic.
More ABC Logic. And no real Logic. [/B]

1.Saruman defeated Gandalf because it was Sarumans time and place of power. Gandalf had to search deep inside to achieve the next level.
2.Your arguments mean that any speedster can beat a larger brick. Which is wrong on every scale.
3.Thinking that the Balrog's attacks can't break stone when it can survive the offensive damage it received is also nuts.[/B]

Your points haven't deterred me in the slightest.

Am I really making things up when I look at the size of the creature. And register its durability. See the offensive potential it has and apply it to these Titans? Maybe. But all the Titans have is speed. And it isn't enough. [/B]

Originally posted by Robtard
Like flies and a fly swatter, chance gives you hits. It's not like the Titans were tactical geniuses, then literally ran in for the slaughter, as most cannon fodder do in films. Watch the clip I posted again. Watch it twice.

Funny, you've failed to prove a single point of yours.

Yeah, you didn't pay attention in the intro, despite paying to see Immortals twice by your own accounts. I was smart enough to download it. It was to illustrate that the "Immortals" really weren't invincible.

Yet ignore everything else he did/feats.

Again, didn't pay attention in LoTR, Balrog can't be harmed my standard weapons. Gandalf used magic.

LoL,so they'll someone get close enough to stab it's legs yet avoid the fire/heat that its body is made of?

More ignorance from you, Gandalf is immune to fire, we see this at least twice in the LoTR films.

I never said they were invincible. I said they were both powerful enough to kill each other. That's it which the intro clearly backs up.

I didn't ignore anything. You mean I didn't emphasize them try and use the correct wordage.

So if someone has a really powerful, huge sword it can't hurt the balrog because you say so. The group couldn't defeat the Balrog not the Titans who are supernatural beings with speed and strength to match.

Gandalf might have magical protection but the man can't jump into pits of fire on his own and expect not to burn. You are such a fanboy of the LOTR.

Titans win. You can't kill what you can't touch.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were winning no they were stomping the gods hence Zeus' retreat. LOL.

I never said they were invincible. I said they were both powerful enough to kill each other. That's it which the intro clearly backs up.

I didn't ignore anything. You mean I didn't emphasize them try and use the correct wordage.

So if someone has a really powerful, huge sword it can't hurt the balrog because you say so. The group couldn't defeat the Balrog not the Titans who are supernatural beings with speed and strength to match.

Gandalf might have magical protection but the man can't jump into pits of fire on his own and expect not to burn. You are such a fanboy of the LOTR.

Titans win. You can't kill what you can't touch.

Non sequitur response. Ignoring. The Titans' tactics are to rush in, just accept it.

Awesome, they're powerful beings, no one said they weren't. The question is whether the Titans with their little blades can harm the Balrog considering it's size, durability and it's fire (they can't). When we know the Balrog can demolish them should it hit, that and it's body is a weapon in of itself.

Incorrect. You continually ignore or downplay Gandalf's greater feats in some attempt to lesson the Balrog.

It's for you to prove the Titans' weapons can harm the Balrog, when we know non-magical weapons don't work against the Balrog, we see its high-level of durability and it took magic to brign it down. So go, prove it.

Nice strawman, lol. Gandalf is immune to fire, we see at least twice in films, ergo, why he didn't burn when he was on the Balrog. It's for you to prove the Titans are immune it the Balrog's fiery body. So go, prove it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Non sequitur response. Ignoring. The Titans' tactics are to rush in, just accept it.

Awesome, they're powerful beings, no one said they weren't. The question is whether the Titans with their little blades can harm the Balrog considering it's size, durability and it's fire (they can't). When we know the Balrog can demolish them should it hit, that and it's body is a weapon in of itself.

Incorrect. You continually ignore or downplay Gandalf's greater feats in some attempt to lesson the Balrog.

It's for you to prove the Titans' weapons can harm the Balrog, when we know non-magical weapons don't work against the Balrog, we see its high-level of durability and it took magic to brign it down. So go, prove it.

Nice strawman, lol. Gandalf is immune to fire, we see at least twice in films, ergo, why he didn't burn when he was on the Balrog. It's for you to prove the Titans are immune it the Balrog's fiery body. So go, prove it.

So you don't see the Balrog and the Titans speed as being even an issue you just see Titan after Titan falling despite crushing the gods. Good to know.

I look at Gandal fin his totality so I don't just look at him bringing down the Balrog I look at what he struggled against and what defeated him you look at just one fight and forget the rest. You're biased I'm just simply awesome and objective.

You can't prove it, genius. You can't prove whether or not a lightsaber can cut through the ring of power either it's to subjective and comparing two different things from different universes.

Let me ask you something. Do you think the Titans are stronger than the party which accompanied Gandalf against the Balrog ?

He uses his magical enchantments. The guy isn't immune to fire it seems you have no idea about how these things even work. LOL.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The analogy illustrated my point. I am not looking up information to argue for the analogy. It's about time you admitted you were wrong but just admitting you were wrong isn't the point. The point is you go into threads you aren't even familiar with and are arguing for one side against another. That's a trait many fanboys possess. If you aren't familiar with both sides of a thread don't go in until you are.

Your point was an idiot.

And more ad hominem attacks without really arguing anything. What a sour grape you can be.

I never said you did but the point is their attacks will hurt him otherwise you are arguing for complete immunity/invulnerability. So you admit his power can be exhausted/broken whatever. Thanks.

It can be broken by a more powerful wizard. Something the Titans are not.

Not sure how any of this relates to the Balrog.

The Balrog wouldn't crush them since it's more than one foe and since they possess speed far greater than gandalf, one lone foe he couldn't get a direct hit on for over a day. Your case is hopeless and it's all biased as you freely admit you didn't watch the movie so you just argued with who you liked more or were more familiar with.

He fought Gandalf in an open space (And was in fact able to get direct hits on him, as shown during the freefall), and Gandalf has magical means to protect himself, such as shields. We have seen this. The Titans are just sort of fast with no notable amount of strength, wielding shitty weapons and are in a small space. To be honest? The Balrog could bring the walls down on them in the place they fought the gods.

You do abc logic all the time but the fact remains anyway you look at it the Titans come out on top.

Afraid not, on both counts. For instance, I think the Balrog would beat Saruman, who beat Gandalf (Not easily, mind you), because Saruman seems to be less of a martial combatant than Gandalf.

They didn't possess little daggers and their weapons were capable of defeating gods capable of far more collateral/massive destruction than your precious dopey Balrog. What weapons did the Balrog just shrug off with no damage whatsoever ?

Technically correct, in that some were armed with something besides wittle daggers. But they aren't armed with anything impressive.

Looking at the video now, some of them were armed with nothing more than a ****ing rock. 😐 And what appears to be at best a little metal spike, at worst a sharp stick. 😬 None of their weaponry is impressive, all looks, as ninjak has been saying, scavenged from the floor.

The gods don't appear durable at all, being killed by some pretty unimpressive weaponry, and with seemingly only one impressive feat, that is not a durability feat.

The Balrog fell a multi-kilometer fall (And considering the size of it, it would hit the ground with much more force than something human-sized), and sword strikes from Gandalf, while capably of cutting it, could not do much damage alone.

Yes, if he fought one opponent who is far slower than one Titan who defeated the Balrog and fought him for over a day and there are dozens of them what could possibly lead you to conclusion the Titans get stomped here.

Gandalf can block attacks in ways the Titans can not. In this battlefield, the Balrog can bring down the walls on top of them.

The funniest part about this whole thing is you honestly would try to calculate it out when in fiction things don't necessarily add up. We see inconsistencies all the time. We see a woman and hobbit manage to defeat the Witch King despite him defeating Gandalf despite Aragorn defeating all the Nazgul. That doesn't make sense, logically. Do you have a shred of humanity in you to understand people don't sit around with calculators trying to determine the PSI of a fall and staying consistent within the trilogy. Of course you don't.

I'm sorry, but while you may not be able to understand this, calculating feats reasonably is a far more reliable method to get an idea of the relative powers of characters from different verses rather than going by personal interpretation, which is unreliable and leads to some derpy shit.

Said Hobbit snuck up on the Witch King and stabbed him with a (Magic, I think? Might be confusing the movie with the books) dagger.

Also, humanity? Are you trying to take some kind of moral stance against me for implementing calculations? 😆

No, I am just trying to show you their blades cut and killed someone capable of creating massive PSI damage and a tidal wave you ignorant human being. You aren't even bright enough to stay consistent within your own bs spewed right back at you.

Lol, give me a feat from Poseidon that isn't creating a tidal wave. The gods were shitty in that battle, comparitively.

Thanks again for admitting the guy can have his power broken/exhausted.

Well considering I never said he couldn't...

I'm tickled pink to hear you admit you were wrong.

I don't want to hear about the kind of sick shit you do in your free time.

This section of the board actually has maturity unlike other sections of the board with tattle tales and mods actually asking people to ignore certain posters. You should see me on other boards I am much more vulgar and verbally combative than what I am like on this part but then again you deserve it since you flame all the time yourself.
[The Titans were seen fighting Zeus in the heavens so I believe they were transported there. If they were dead for all time they wouldn't be fighting the gods after this at the end against Theseus and the gods as the credits rolled.

So maturity = Ad hominem attacks and butthurt raging?

You have been led to believe some strange things.

I will get someone to verify that second part.

The guy had a torch. That's unbelievably pathetic and the woman and hobbit didn't use fire either. I also see water easily defeat them. They were pathetic combat wise. The Titans would destroy them in less than a few seconds. No, it wasn't just a numbers advantage they were almost as fast as the gods. The humans weren't even on the same page as they were but the Titans obviously were just a little behind the gods superspeed.

The Lich King was incapable of being killed by a man, it had to be a woman to do so.

Not sure how any of this has anything to do with the Balrog though.

The Titans were getting blitzed and torn to pieces by the gods individually.

Man, it's such a turn on to hear you admit I'm right. Do it again and I might release.

I never argued the point, so I'm not sure why you're so excited to hear it.

Are you so traumatised by being wrong so often that being right at anything gives you a sexual thrill?

The Titans will evade the strikes since they are far faster. If Gandalf can do so and he's one guy the balrog is focusing on and far slower how does it make sense that the Balrog starts just merking Titans left and right.

No. Physically, what you are suggesting is impossible, there are too many Titans in too small an area to evade everything.

Gandalf did fight and didn't really do a good job of protecting thank goodness Legolas was there to help kill the thing.

I'd love to prove you wrong, but I can't seem to find a decent video of the cave troll fight, for some reason. Gandalf did little in the fight, and did not release his full power regardless.

You like rob make pre judgments on films. I like action films based off mythology and see it on that alone you need to hear five stars apparently to see it.

Not really. Chronicles of Riddick didn't do so well critically. I loved it.

I was actually interested in Immortals... Until I saw that really lame fight scene Robtard posted.

Also, the Titans in the movie ****ing suck. I love fiction based on mythology, hence being a fan of God of War, but those Titans are ****ing garbage to the extreme, the Titans in God of War or ****ing Disney's Hercules are far more impressive. Same with the gods, really.

Hey you also seem to like ponies though so your opinion is suspect to say the least.

I am pretty confident when I say My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, has far better writing than Immortals.

And that they have at least one character who can beat all of the Titans and gods at once. 😱

Not. Even. Close.

Obviously you are incorrect.

Aragorn couldn't beat a Titan let alone Theseus but then again you didn't see the movie but are still here trolling on by.

Irrelevant to this thread, but it is so cute how you almost acknowledge your feeble argument by trying to sidetrack me.

But you have to factor in the PSI of the fall and the tidal wave it created. Right, dude ?

Well no, for the same reason Poseidon from God of War diving into the water was not a durability feat.

No, it doesn't. Sure it helps but the gods clearly were very powerful see Zeus' temple destroying feat or Poseidon's feat.

I'll get back to you on Zeus' temple destroying feat, but Poseidon creating a tidal wave clearly doesn't translate into impressive combat abilities.

The cave Troll would be eviscerated by the Titans within moments. It would be a onesided stomp with ten cave trolls against the Titans in the Titans favor.

No it wouldn't, and once more, you are trying to sidetrack me. Stop silly boy.

What little daggers ? You keep saying little daggers I have no idea what you even mean it seems like a poor attempt to rile up an intelligent, informed, reasonable poster.

The best weapon they have appears to be a rusty bronze bar with a slab of metal on the end, used as a mace. 😐 Their weapons are shit.

The Titans would maul it in moments at their worst.

All of them might beat the Cave Troll, maybe, but many would die as well. 🙂

I agree but the Cave troll posed a threat to Gandalf as well. The Balrog while superior wasn't impressive because Gandalf himself beat it.

At no point was Gandalf in danger against the troll.

When you attempt humor I crine irl.

I wasn't joking.

Watch the movie.

What a cop-out.

Why debate something you are entirely ignorant on ? It seems so fanboyish oh wait it is.

I am challenging you to provide the feats that enable the Titans to kill the Balrog.

Sadly, it appears you are incapable of this...

Yes, I am clearly very upset. Well at least you are consistent in your judgments.

I can smell the butthurt.

They didn't just have little daggers or use little daggers. You don't know or care you just want the LOTR guy to win.

Their weaponry seems to consists of rusted, scrap-metal clubs, shivs, and rocks. That's not exactly an impressive arsenal.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's true and in this thread you admit you have no idea yet argue on anyways.

Says the guy who hangs out with most of these people as his only friends on msn. I have always felt for the people shunned irl. I hope things get better.

Ah, now you make assumptions about my life outside the forum. What a sad clown you are, yes I have people on this forum I talk to on MSN, but I also know people IRL as well, silly little girl.

Originally posted by the ninjak
4. Activate the ropes that would eventually bring the whole mountain down.

Can you elaborate on this?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, they will rush in and inflict damage until the Balrog dies. What is it you think I've been claiming ?

So you don't see the Balrog and the Titans speed as being even an issue you just see Titan after Titan falling despite crushing the gods. Good to know.

I look at Gandal fin his totality so I don't just look at him bringing down the Balrog I look at what he struggled against and what defeated him you look at just one fight and forget the rest. You're biased I'm just simply awesome and objective.

You can't prove it, genius. You can't prove whether or not a lightsaber can cut through the ring of power either it's to subjective and comparing two different things from different universes.

Let me ask you something. Do you think the Titans are stronger than the party which accompanied Gandalf against the Balrog ?

He uses his magical enchantments. The guy isn't immune to fire it seems you have no idea about how these things even work. LOL.

You've yet to prove they could harm the Balrog to begin with.

Speed is a superb advantage to have, but considering the Titans can't harm the Balrog, speed matters not.

Greatest feats, learn it, follow it.

It's not for me to prove it, scalpel. It's on you. You can't, so you dance. Balrog is immune to normal weapons, as stated. Titans seem to use non-magical weapons, useless you have something.

Now you're dancing again. He wasn't burned, cos he's immune as seen. I never commented if it was magic, an item or a natural ability. What you still dodge, the Titans being immune or not to the Balrog's fire. Dodger.

Where exactly are they fighting? Is there anything the Titans could use to defeat the Balrog via the environment, such as pushing him off a bridge or something.