The 25th Anniversary Zelda Villain Gauntlet

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He stabbed himself with a keyblade that unlocks hearts. See, at the time the heart of his friend was sealed inside his own heart. So Sora took a Keyblade that could remove hearts(though, all Keyblades can do this so nothing really special about this one except it's probably more powerful than the others) and pierced himself with it to release it. So it was purely intentional on his part.

And yes. It led to a hilarious part in the PSP game, where the evil queen from Snow White gave our protagonist a box and told him to go get her heart. She really does mean the heart that pumps blood.

Hm this seems more complicated than i first thought. Well I cannot discern from this whether he would be affected or not by the twilight but if he can live without soul then all I can say is he probably has some resistance to this assuming Gannon can do it.

^Basically if you take Sora's soul youre gonne get tag teamed by him and Roxas.

And Anti-Form is bawss.

Gonna see if I can argue this without bringing up lightning issues.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Well, Sora is fast, but how fast exactly? I don't think he's outside Ganon's reaction time, and with Sora's lower durability it's entirely possible for a one shot to take place. Can Sora avoid a lightning bolt?

Mach 4-6-15, and that was before combining with Roxas (makes him whole) and without Drive forms. Like his Final Form will be a real pain to Dorf; stronger, faster, two blades covered in light magic and able cast spells without breaking stride or stopping his attacks.

Welllll whether he has the high reactions to a fast projectile, I doubt he can do that repeatedly in CQC.

excellent Can Demise avoid a lightn-....gah, bad Rain, bad..

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Actually, heh. I've got bad news. Even in his weakened, sealed form, Demise has a strength feat that outstrips all of Dante's significantly.

This happens before he even gains the ToP in OoT. Hm. While weakened from even his original form.


Hah, I dont believe in news..

Technically not a strength feat as Imp isnt actually making physical contact as he's not even formed yet. Can't say what it is, but it defiantly aint physical.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Couple his infamous lightning time reactions, and Dante on his own is sure to be bested. 😛 Luckily, Dante has friends.

Blitz had lightning reaction and speed, Dante still won. He also has 60,000 m/s speed thanks to Alastor if that helps, faster in DDT and more with amps.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If Dante can teleport, and you're certain Air Trick is a teleport, that means Samus is the only one who can be reliably sidelined. But she can act as a target marker should Ganondorf use invisibility/intangibility or his Darkness technique. Wave beam. D=< This at least keeps her light beam from being a problem.
(I've not seen it, so hey, figured I'd ask, is relevant. Air Trick = teleport?)

100% certain. How does his TK work? Is it like a Force Choke hold where the person is lifted up but can still move their limbs, or like Mewtwo's where the person cant move at all? If the former then Samus can still be a turret. Sora and Dante have fought invis/tang foes before (only invis for Sora) but Samus will make sure Dorf doesnt get to flank 'em.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
How durable does DT armour make him? And let me be clear here. mmm This thread is about Ganondorf with the ToP, but Demise's showings have shed new light onto just how powerful he is, heh. Demise lacked the ToP and still crippled a goddess who created casual city busters and separated a city from the earth, and the covered the entire world in a seal (this is explicitly what the cloud barrier is) to keep it separate. In fact, Demise's sword could best the dragons in combat. mmm (The afore-mentioned city busters) and in fact did so.

So, uh, I'm using a little powerscaling. >_> Basically, Ganon > Demise. And Demise can physically shake regions while weakened. 😛


Well in DMC4 Dante did a powerful stab into Nero's arm and it didnt even make a scratch. His arm is a partial version of Dante's DT. Or he can use RoyalGuard/Dreadaught where the latter was able to easily tank the Saviors MegaBeam in the novel which is multi city-block in damage.

Totally forgot that he didnt have the ToP yet <~< However I have no fakeing clue if Hylia had powerful combat techs or if she only excelled in magic/creation/seals.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So to answer this:
Demise proves once again that the Gameplay isn't representative of the characters, heh. He also gives us a list of things Ganon can do without the Triforce of Power, which he does have.

The reason I'm so comfortable pitting him against three powerful characters is that he has a lot of powers, and a lot of power behind them. Lightning bolts are always nice, barriers are useful, teleportation's great, TK is awesome, intangibility and invisibility tend to give enemies bad days. A lot of this helps him control the fight, keeping Samus locked in while fighting Dante and Sora, and abusing some of the broken abilities he's been given over the years in the process.


Im not so sure. His strength is still below Dante and Sora, and I doubt he can match their constant combat speed. They have a way to fight TK, intang, invis and t.port. He can defiantly put up a fight but I doubt they, especially together, can lose. Not with that human-computer-gun on their side.

Not strictly true. Sora has fought with guys who can become intangible.

Cant Sora summon things to his aid?

Yes but none of them are particularly noteworthy. He could summon Genie, whose best feats are making sandstorms disappear.

He could also summon Stitch, whose abilites are: "He is bulletproof, fireproof, shockproof and can think faster than [a] super computer. He can see in the dark and can move objects 3,000 times his size. His only instinct - to destroy everything he touches!"

Summoning Tinkerbell allows him to be constantly healing and presumably could give his allies the ability to fly.

That was on the tip of my tongue but I couldnt remember who..

I dont suppose your allowed to use the feats from the Disney movies their from in a games vs? wouldnt make sense but it would be cool, because Genie would finish this good style.

Nada. But, I am using Stitch's stated abilities. Genie would be way too unfair.

Then again, Sora has demonstrably proven the he can beat a Genie in a fight anyway.

Blitz had lightning reaction and speed, Dante still won. He also has 60,000 m/s speed thanks to Alastor if that helps, faster in DDT and more with amps.

wat

Welllll whether he has the high reactions to a fast projectile, I doubt he can do that repeatedly in CQC.
Well, it provides a reaction time of 0.000016666666666666667 seconds, since he actively struck it out of the air.

Well in DMC4 Dante did a powerful stab into Nero's arm and it didnt even make a scratch. His arm is a partial version of Dante's DT. Or he can use RoyalGuard/Dreadaught where the latter was able to easily tank the Saviors MegaBeam in the novel which is multi city-block in damage.
Not bad, Ganondorf may need to unload a bit more on Dante than I previously thought, huh.

Technically not a strength feat as Imp isnt actually making physical contact as he's not even formed yet. Can't say what it is, but it defiantly aint physical.

Watching the video it seems pretty apparent to me. The Sealing spike that sits in it's head sits at the bottom of the sealed grounds. When it breaks out, it all comes out in one piece with the sealing spike in it's head. Seems pretty physical. Even the way it's done, it's not a consistent shake, it's deliberately done in a series of thuds like something ramming against the walls of its' prison. Meh.

How would Dante answer a Twilight field, in your opinion? 131

Im not so sure. His strength is still below Dante and Sora, and I doubt he can match their constant combat speed.
I disagree, but meh, his physical strength isn't the only thing they have to worry about anyway. His reaction time is very good, enough to keep up with any of the striking feats I've been shown so far from Dante? I've not seen what makes Dante jump from the mach 15 you'd had him listed at before. BUT EH!

I can see this, plx?

He can summon Cloud Strife~

Who are the intangibles?

Originally posted by BloodRain
He can summon Cloud Strife~

Who are the intangibles?

Lulz, he can.

Xemnas and Marluxia(?) can both become intangible at will. 😛

Originally posted by BloodRain
He can summon Cloud Strife~

Who are the intangibles?

Jack Skellington >

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
wat

Calc'd it. And thats < Sparda/DDT Dante's speed.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Well, it provides a reaction time of 0.000016666666666666667 seconds, since he actively struck it out of the air.

Aye, but can he physically keep moving to defend from attacks that are constantly coming at him and not just linear? In Final form Dorf will have two blades coming at him at the same time, usually from different directions.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not bad, Ganondorf may need to unload a bit more on Dante than I previously thought, huh.

Been waiting to use that defense 8)

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Watching the video it seems pretty apparent to me. The Sealing spike that sits in it's head sits at the bottom of the sealed grounds. When it breaks out, it all comes out in one piece with the sealing spike in it's head. Seems pretty physical. Even the way it's done, it's not a consistent shake, it's deliberately done in a series of thuds like something ramming against the walls of its' prison. Meh.

Yeah he's physical when he comes out. And not only would be be inside the ground (either intangible or lit in it, both cases cant hit it physically) but he hasn't got anything to strike the ground with. Could be the force of him breaking out of the magical seal thats creating the tremors.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
How would Dante answer a Twilight field, in your opinion? 131

Here's where my poor memory comes to my aid...

Well he has a decent soul&corruption resistant feat.

Calc'd it. And thats < Sparda/DDT Dante's speed.
Lemme see.

Aye, but can he physically keep moving to defend from attacks that are constantly coming at him and not just linear? In Final form Dorf will have two blades coming at him at the same time, usually from different directions.
If he's got 0.00001 of a second after he's realized it's coming, sure. I'm not saying he can't be tagged, but he'd be pretty hard to damage significantly on top of this, anyway, as evidenced by Midna blowing up Hyrule Castle, and various other things.

Yeah he's physical when he comes out. And not only would be be inside the ground (either intangible or lit in it, both cases cant hit it physically) but he hasn't got anything to strike the ground with.
He has his head and body, lol, and part of the point of his 'imprisonment' is that he doesn't have access to his powers. This is why he lumbers up the ramp towards the temple to physically destroy it. 😛 What else could be creating the tremors other than Demise himself? (Hint, Impa tells us it's Demise >😮)
Here's where my poor memory comes to my aid...
Your pain, I feel it.

[Quote]The glass in that scene falls at 10m/s, the time distortion makes the glass fall 0.01m in 12 seconds. 1/12,000th the speed. During this he was doing 2.5m swings in 0.5 seconds, 5m/s.

(10ms/(0.01m/12s))*(2.5m/0.5s) =60,000m/s

Glass speed is from both how long it'd take it to fall irl and how in the scene the glass 3m high falls at a third of a second. Other glassspeedis from one of the large pieces outsidehisslashing range(sowe know itwasfalling by itsown speed and unaffected by Dante's movements) fell a cm (from the thickness of the glass) in 12 seconds. Dante swing speed is both half human attack speed and some measurements on myself (Im about his height) [/quote]

AlastorDante = Nelo < Mundus = SpardaDante =< DDT Dante.

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But that'd require lightning speed too. If so itll end up with Dorf spinning around countering the swords flying around him while Sora shoots lightning at him. Triple threat~
And thats if his streat doesnt fall to Sora's (think GroundShaker)

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But hes cant make any physical contact *o* Imp or Dem. Termors could easy come from the effects of Demmy breaking the barrior-thing.

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How does he feel about being encased in a giant block of ice. mmm

When did Ganon play tennis with lightning? I hope you're not referring to OOT when Ganon and Link played tennis with a ball of MAGIC which was moving oh so slow but any way Dante speed blitz cause there's no proof that Ganon is a lightning timer.

Originally posted by chuck inglish
When did Ganon play tennis with lightning? I hope you're not referring to OOT when Ganon and Link played tennis with a ball of MAGIC which was moving oh so slow but any way Dante speed blitz cause there's no proof that Ganon is a lightning timer.

Ganon has the reaction time to handle hypersonic speedsters.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Ganon has the reaction time to handle hypersonic speedsters.

The game canon calls it magic therefore it's magic very slow magic at that. When did Ganon fight hypersonic speedsters?

Oh god....anything but this topic. -_-