Originally posted by Burning thoughtYou, stop trolling my thread.
Please explain why that large dark entity creating tremurs is a better strength feat than anything previously or outstrips Dante?And ganons played tennsis with ball lightning that goes about 2 meters a second at best, if that....
Anyone in this thread can probably destroy him before he can react assuming he doesnt avoid those that can only attack from the ground by flying.
Telling me ime trolling every time I make a post is trolling me, ive been told to not do this to Scenario before even when later other people noticed he was trolling so I dont think youve got any moral ground here.
I have legitimate points that people have argued with you many times before, and still you ake this ad nasueum fallacy.
Telling me ime trolling every time I make a post is trolling me
The short version is this: Intentionally derailing a debate and sidetracking it with blatant lies and feigned ignorance out of some misplaced Board Warrior e-crusade against a character you do not like is trolling. You know you're wrong, you've been proved wrong many times.
****ing. Stop. I have a legitimate case to report you if you keep derailing my thread with your pointless asides.
And while I'm already chewing you out:
No one actually believes you'd seriously believe a calculation for Kain, for example, which was recently proven to have been done incorrectly anyway, and flies in the face of LoK canon, over the many, many instances of it being proven to not be the case. You've used fallacious anti-logic and double standards to come to conclusions that are utterly false, and intellectually dishonest. You do this on purpose.
Math is a tool to learn more about a feat, not invent new ones.
Anyone else remember when I was criticised for something as simple as weighing a ****ing block? Now it's common place, and everything is always either granite or steel. If I didn't know what kind of stone a block was I used a density of 100lbs/ft^3. Now everything is granite or steel. Jesus.
But yeah. Stop trolling.
Its not a lie until youve disproven it, and nobody has ever conceded to your belief that Ganon can play tennsis with 60k m/s bolts...
And actually, derailing your thread? I am argueing the points in the thread, i have a legitimate case to report you for attacking me in such a manner.
A list of hypocrtical statements wont make me leave, nor stop me from replying to falsehoods that I can debunk. It would be kind of you to counter thse things rather than complain.
Why did you put Kain in it knowing full well I would enter it then? you either baited me into this thread or wanted me in it, you knew for a fact it would draw me here so bashing and trolling me when I do arrive after giving me an invite seems dishonest tbh. What will kill it, if you turn this into a trolling thread, the mods will close it for sure.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtWhen it comes time to debate Kain, then yes, we can sit around and debate Kain for all the fun that will be. Right now it is not that time.
Why did you put Kain in it knowing full well I would enter it then? you either baited me into this thread or wanted me in it, you knew for a fact it would draw me here so bashing and trolling me when I do arrive after giving me an invite seems dishonest tbh. What will kill it, if you turn this into a trolling thread, the mods will close it for sure.
I deliberately put Kain in, yes, but I also put him in the final fight for a reason. I wanted to debate the others first, because Kain debates invariably devour the thread once they start. At this moment Scenario spends more time defending Samus' opponent than supporting Samus because of your uncanny ability to be knowingly wrong. 😐 Which I wouldn't mind so much if there weren't other things to discuss. I'd like to do a proper debate and get some kind of concensus between debaters about how Ganon manages and/or advances before we get into that.
So, basically, you're delaying the debate you seem to want so badly to have, too, by insisting on downplaying Ganon at every turn.
Bleh. BLEH I SAY.
****ing damn it you guys, I thought you were already told to stop this before?
And, to keep my post on topic, Sora has the laser reaction feat under his belt. I'm fairly sure reaction won't be a problem for him. If Dante can create a distraction, Samus and Sora should be able to get some nice hits in.
Well the threads only 8 pages now and theres probably more activity from me in it already than yourself debating the other characters. Tbh if you didnt want any scrutinty (Neph is after me at the moment, but he will prob argue lightning speed if it so interests him) you should have not added Kain at all, knowing full well I would come here as soon as I read it.
Although I also know Dante, Kratos, War and very roughply Khrarne. Your best bet is probably puting me on ignore until you feel like youve finished the others.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
****ing damn it you guys, I thought you were already told to stop this before?And, to keep my post on topic, Sora has the laser reaction feat under his belt. I'm fairly sure reaction won't be a problem for him. If Dante can create a distraction, Samus and Sora should be able to get some nice hits in.
Ganon has his crowd control to help. Sora being that fragile speedster kind of fighter needs to avoid being hindered or taking a hit. Can he see things that are invisible, or do you have any idea how he'd react to a twilight field? =o
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelGanondorf overlays an area with the Twilight realm, reducing those in it to souls. Happens in TP, Link resists because Triforce of Courage, being transformed into a Wolf instead. Later when he gets the master sword he doesn't transform at all. 😎
He has fought with invisible things before. Of course, I assume Samus would have something that allows her to see invisible things, meaning she can coordinate an attack regardless.And I have no idea what a twilight field is. 😮
And yeah, Samus can highlight him with her wave beam and X-Ray/Dark Visor.
But it's a matter of Sora's ability to avoid an attack from something he can't see, too.
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Well in that case, my honest best guess would be Sora is turned into a Lion cub, since his clothes are magical and stuff and will transform in order to accommodate. The keyblade, his clothes, and his KH universe Messiah status would probably be enough to protect from being killed, or changed at all.
He could. Has fought several invisible foes before. Shouldn't have too much difficulty.
As in, resistant against having his soul taken from him? Because KH Souls are a bit hard to...understand. Much less argue it's protected. Stealing Sora's soul has done nothing to him before though. Or rather, the loss of his soul did nothing to him. He could still walk, talk, fight, etc.
And Scream, just recalled something! Within the Pirates of the Caribbean world(yes there is one lol), a Heartless puts a curse on the party that turns them into the zombie pirates of the first game. Unlike Jack Sparrow, an optional party member anyway, Sora, Donald, and Goofy were unaffected(rationalized away by reasoning that they weren't from the world, therefore unaffected by the curse). So, based on this, Sora should do fine in the Twilight Field. 😛
Essentially yes. Time for some KH talk, cause I rarely get to do so.
In the KH universe, a person is made up of Body, Soul, and most importantly Heart.
Body+Soul+Heart=Whole person.
When a person loses their soul, they die(Sora is unique in this case, having lost his soul and not dying) but when a person loses their heart, if they were strong willed enough, the Soul and Body go do their own things.
In KH, Sora had to give up his heart to save his friend. So the Heart was removed from the equation and something known as a Nobody was born.
Soul+Body=Nobody.
Sora however, regained a body of his own and continued on his adventures. While his Nobody, Roxas, went off and did his own thing.
Heart=Sora doing his own thing.
Body and Soul=Roxas doing his own thing.
Given that Sora really is treated like the Messiah of the world, it's understandable that he could exist(not completely though) without his soul.
Actually, the beings of this universe do not really care about killing Sora very much. The heartless merely want to kill him cause they fear the Keyblade and they kill him by nom nom noming on his heart apparently. The Nobody's, I assume, would do the same if they needed to but they never had any intention of killing Sora to begin with. They need him for something rather special. And the villains from the first game were of the wait and see what happens type. If Sora got in his way, they would try to kill him by removing his heart more likely than not.
As for whether it's corruptible or not, his heart is rather powerful. He can unconsciously save people from dying his heart is so damn pure and filled with light. When he lost his heart and momentarily became a heartless, it was the most pathetic of all the heartless in the game. When he became a real body again moments later, the darkness in his heart went away.
Though there is still Anti-Form, an interesting form he can take that is assumed to be the result of him becoming a heartless. It seems tied to his clothes, like all of his forms so the specifics of it are rather sketchy at best.