Originally posted by DarkSaint85Dude Those are good plans,but I have a feeling you still think Hulk is a retard
Plan 1 - Colossus would only be there as big shiny bait. Hulk would swing his fist towards him - only there's a portal where Piotr's face used to be. It travels up his arm, then shuts close. Hulk has lost his left arm.He tries with his right. Same result. He now has no arms.
He lifts his leg up to stamp on the ground. Another portal. He now has no legs.
Hope then takes Colossus' powers, and Elixir's powers. Runs up to Hulk, rolls him onto his front with his head in the sea (am assuming it takes place on the beach). Pins him there with little effort and cancels out his healing factor.
Dr Nemesis comes up. Unloads both his guns into the Hulk. Infects the Hulk with cancers, Ebola, Aids, leprosy, the Plague, and the common cold lol. Leaves.
Magneto erects a forcefield around Hope and Hulk. All Hulk can do now is spit infected blood lol, but thanks to the field and Colossus' powers, nobody is infected.
He then gets pinned for the count. Plan 1, complete. Cyclops goes for a beer.
Plan 2 - MAgik opens a portal above Hulk, Namor, Colossaunaut and Hope channelling both Colossus' and Namor's strength and Elixir's power drops out. All three of them hold Hulk down, backed up by Magneto controlling his nervous system (like he's doing with the Celestial right now). I'm not saying that any one of them alone can hold him, I'm saying ALL of them combined, can hold him down for a minute or so. Then, whilst his healing factor is weakened, Namor snaps his neck. Cyclops has a beer.
Plan 3 - Magneto controls Colossonaut like a giant hypersonic wrecking ball.
Plan 4 - Magik attacks his soul with her soul sword. Whilst in the real world, the others attack his physical body.
Plan 5 - Magik travels back in time, phucks him up big time.
Plan 6 - Hope takes Nightcrawler, Elixir, Rockslide and Gambit's powers. And maybe Colossus' powers, for durability. Ports around the Hulk, hugging him and charging her own body up, blowing his limbs off whilst simultaneously negating the healing factor. Cyclops is getting seriously drunk by now.
Plan 7 - Cyclops grabs the Muramasa blade. Gives it to MAgneto to control. Magneto gets to have a little fun. For giggles, Dr Nemesis grabs a sniper rifle and further overloads Hulk's healing factor with diseases.
Originally posted by TheHulk
Debatavle but yea ihe should be since he has more experience...but lol can Cyclops come up with this plans in a min this thread does not say anything about prep time
Debatable how?
Cyclops doesn't need prep time; he comes up with half if not most of his ideas on the fly anyway. Or has them in his head for when he'd inevitably have to fight someone like the Hulk?
Originally posted by -Pr-I cater cyclops is one of your favorite characters,his one of mine too but seriously those kinda plans DarkSaint said only People like Batman,Dr Doom and Thanos can come up with that fast
Debatable how?Cyclops doesn't need prep time; he comes up with half if not most of his ideas on the fly anyway. Or has them in his head for when he'd inevitably have to fight someone like the Hulk?
Originally posted by TheHulk
I cater cyclops is one of your favorite characters,his one of mine too but seriously those kinda plans DarkSaint said only People like Batman,Dr Doom and Thanos can come up with that fast
Cyclops is one of the best tacticians in comics; you could easily argue that he was Captain America level.
His plan to beat Osborn during Dark Reign was one that the people you named would be proud to have thought of.
Originally posted by -Pr-Alright fine but I'm just saying Cyclops wont think of something That fast 1-2 min
Cyclops is one of the best tacticians in comics; you could easily argue that he was Captain America level.His plan to beat Osborn during Dark Reign was one that the people you named would be proud to have thought of.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I don't know whether you are telling the truth, but of course it's the truth about the limbo timing,but hey might as well let hulk eat gamma nukes
I thought of it in a few minutes, I'm no doom. This is as per the Op a rematch, so Cyclops has already fought wwh and knows his capabilities. Time passes quicker in limbo so 1-2 minutes is like 1-2 hours. Take your pick of my rebuttals.
I thought of it in a few minutes, I'm no Doom.
This is true. If you however want to put me up there with Doom and Thanos, hell, I'm flattered!
This is as per the OP a rematch, so Cyclops has already fought WWH and knows his capabilities.
All of this is true. Cyclops was there when WWH first attacked the mansion, he saw what he was capable of. He knows what WWH's powers are.
Time passes quicker in limbo so 1-2 minutes is like 1-2 hours.
OK, maybe not 1-2 hours, I may have been exaggerating slightly. But considering I (as Cyclops) would have Emma telepathically linking me to everyone, as soon as I formulate a plan, everyone on my team knows it - I don't even have to shout instructions.
And what did you mean by eating gamma bombs??
The same can be said of Banner too, the guy outfoxed Doom himself, Reed, T'Challa and several other smart guys in Fall of the Hulks and showed some of his cunning during WWH when he fought the X teams.
It will be an awkward fight for him because of the varied powersets he would be going up against but a serious Hulk not the one who was toying with them in WWH would take out several members of this team very quickly.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Forget about the gamma bombs I'm very happy you make a very good point unlike others I know lol honestly I'll like to hear more of your "plans"??? What else in that mid of yours
This is true. If you however want to put me up there with Doom and Thanos, hell, I'm flattered!All of this is true. Cyclops was there when WWH first attacked the mansion, he saw what he was capable of. He knows what WWH's powers are.
OK, maybe not 1-2 hours, I may have been exaggerating slightly. But considering I (as Cyclops) would have Emma telepathically linking me to everyone, as soon as I formulate a plan, everyone on my team knows it - I don't even have to shout instructions.
And what did you mean by eating gamma bombs??
Originally posted by The Sorrow
The same can be said of Banner too, the guy outfoxed Doom himself, Reed, T'Challa and several other smart guys in Fall of the Hulks and showed some of his cunning during WWH when he fought the X teams.It will be an awkward fight for him because of the varied powersets he would be going up against but a serious Hulk not the one who was toying with them in WWH would take out several members of this team very quickly.
The problem was that the X-teams in WWH were pretty weak, and were written badly. Why didn't Kitty continually phase him? Or phase items into his brain? Why did Elixir suddenly leave the bAttlefield, and go tend the wounded? Etc.
WWH would take out some members of the Extinction team, sure. But the OP said X-men, so this is pretty much Utopia plus all the other teams going around. And they now have Limbo, so everyone suddenly now has Nightcrawler style teleport powers thanks to Magik.
Originally posted by TheHulk
Forget about the gamma bombs I'm very happy you make a very good point unlike others I know lol honestly I'll like to hear more of your "plans"??? What else in that mid of yours
Variants of the same. Kitty phases a brick into his head, whilst the healing factor is shut off, etc.
Essentially, to beat the Hulk, you must never try to out muscle him-that's just stupid. He will always beat you. What you need is:
BFR
No healing factor (or a weakened one)
Suspension of the Hulk in a vacuum.
An attack so powerful it atomized him completely at once.
Everything else would eventually be overridden by the Hulk getting madder and madder.