WWH Vs Xmen Rematch

The Hulk as he was during the battle with the X-men would definitely lose against the current line up. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.

Magneto, Danger, Magik, Hope, Blink, Colossus Juggernaut, Namor, Storm Cyclops, and Emma would beat Green Scar at any level short of World Breaker. Hulk was incredibly powerful, that's not debatable but this is just about being honest. That team is too versatile, powerful and organized.

If we're discussing all of the X-men line ups together, then no incarnation of Hulk can win.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Variants of the same. Kitty phases a brick into his head, whilst the healing factor is shut off, etc.

Essentially, to beat the Hulk, you must never try to out muscle him-that's just stupid. He will always beat you. What you need is:

BFR
No healing factor (or a weakened one)
Suspension of the Hulk in a vacuum.
An attack so powerful it atomized him completely at once.

Everything else would eventually be overridden by the Hulk getting madder and madder.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Lol all those might work but seriously those are not in their characters

Why not? Shadowcat is hardcore when she wants to be.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why not? Shadowcat is hardcore when she wants to be.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Alright I'll give reasons soon but hold on I'm paying battlefield 3 while posting here on my iPhone(very hard to use)

lol.

games > comic forum. seriously. 😛

Plan 1 - relies on Magik being ruthless with her portals, Dr Nemesis ruthless with his guns, Magneto ruthless with his forcefield and Hope ruthless with her powers. I'm pretty sure none of them have qualms with being ruthless.

Plan 2 - relies on Namor and Colossus (with Cytorrak's influence). Yeah, they're being ruthless.

Plan 3 - relies on Magneto being ruthless. Yeah, moving on.

Plan 4 - relies on Magik being ruthless. Moving on.

Plan 5 - relies on Magik being ruthless. Moving on.

Plan 6 - relies on Hope. Debateable.

Plan 7 - relies on Magneto being ruthless. Moving on.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The problem was that the X-teams in WWH were pretty weak, and were written badly. Why didn't Kitty continually phase him? Or phase items into his brain? Why did Elixir suddenly leave the bAttlefield, and go tend the wounded? Etc.

WWH would take out some members of the Extinction team, sure. But the OP said X-men, so this is pretty much Utopia plus all the other teams going around. And they now have Limbo, so everyone suddenly now has Bittersweet style teleport powers thanks to Magik.

Comics aren't made just to appease us as battleboards fans, Greg Pak did exactly that at the end of his run and look at the criticism he got.

Oh I see, I assumed this was just involving the recent Extinction team as yes, to throw in every other X-team would probably be spite.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plan 1 - relies on Magik being ruthless with her portals, Dr Nemesis ruthless with his guns, Magneto ruthless with his forcefield and Hope ruthless with her powers. I'm pretty sure none of them have qualms with being ruthless.

Plan 2 - relies on Namor and Colossus (with Cytorrak's influence). Yeah, they're being ruthless.

Plan 3 - relies on Magneto being ruthless. Yeah, moving on.

Plan 4 - relies on Magik being ruthless. Moving on.

Plan 5 - relies on Magik being ruthless. Moving on.

Plan 6 - relies on Hope. Debateable.

Plan 7 - relies on Magneto being ruthless. Moving on.

Team Extinction can be ruthless...they are marvel's version of the authority now. If the avengers are the JLA uncanny is the authority

They are mostly super powered villians or people who can go crazy. Magneto has killed, Magik kills demons all the time, Hope is a hardcore soldier she can kill, Namor can kill, Colossus has killed w/o Cyttorak add Cyttorak and it doubles the crazy..Danger can kill. Storm is the only truly heroic character and even she has cut out a heart before and a thunder clap wont takeout most of team extinction..

If Utopia is being threatend you better believe extinction team can go for blood, its totally in character. and how does hulk take out the team? super strength wont cut it...

Originally posted by TheHulk
Your point is?

My point is:

Originally posted by TheHulk
Lol all those might work but seriously those are not in their characters

I'm arguing its totally in their character. Namor's out for blood. Magneto will do what it takes. Colossus is influenced by a demon lord. Magik IS a demon lord. Hope spent her formative years on the run with Cable - these aren't the little kids that WWH fought in the X-mansion before. These are hardened warriors, like nwg said, Marvel's version of the Authority.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Well why didn't Hulk thunderclap and knock nearly every member of the X Teams out instantly? Why doesn't Thor Godblast every one at the start of a fight? Why doesn't Superman ever one shot anyone even though he has the capacity to? Why does Galactus regularly job even though he is far more powerful than most characters that appear on panel? It's called plot and being in-character. These guys are not murderers, Kitty didn't know Hulk was capable of escaping, she fused his limbs to the ground and in her own words thought she had paralysed Banner.

Comics aren't made just to appease us as battleboards fans, Greg Pak did exactly that at the end of his run and look at the criticism he got.

Oh I see, I assumed this was just involving the recent Extinction team as yes, to throw in every other X-team would probably be spite.

True, and I can see your point - otherwise Surfer's comics would be two pages long lol. But instead of the thunderclap example, in mine, Elixir and Kitty's plans ACTUALLY WORKED (for a short duration of time). But then, they just left. Kitty saw he escaped, but rather than follow up, she...gave up. And left. Whilst her team mates were thrashed around her, children she had been training for the past few years.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True, and I can see your point - otherwise Surfer's comics would be two pages long lol. But instead of the thunderclap example, in mine, Elixir and Kitty's plans ACTUALLY WORKED (for a short duration of time). But then, they just left. Kitty saw he escaped, but rather than follow up, she...gave up. And left. Whilst her team mates were thrashed around her, children she had been training for the past few years.

Originally posted by nwg202
Team Extinction can be ruthless...they are marvel's version of the authority now. If the avengers are the JLA uncanny is the authority

They are mostly super powered villians or people who can go crazy. Magneto has killed, Magik kills demons all the time, Hope is a hardcore soldier she can kill, Namor can kill, Colossus has killed w/o Cyttorak add Cyttorak and it doubles the crazy..Danger can kill. Storm is the only truly heroic character and even she has cut out a heart before and a thunder clap wont takeout most of team extinction..

If Utopia is being threatend you better believe extinction team can go for blood, its totally in character. and how does hulk take out the team? super strength wont cut it...

No one on the Extinction team is invulnerable, yes they have defenses against strength but Hulk doesn't need to directly attack them to hurt them.

What are the stips for this thread anyway? Is this the same Hulk that fought the X-Men? Or is any part of WWH usable?

Originally posted by TheHulk
Honestly on my opinion The X-Men at full Potential can take out Zeus will you believe what I just said... 😕

Yes, I would. Seeing as X-men at FP includes the Phoenix....

Why, what part of my post did you not believe? WWH DID attack the mansion. Elixir DID negate the healing factor; WWH himself said so. Kitty DID phase him into the ground; and then left.

Its all there in the comic.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
With the right circumstance yeah some would be willing to and have killed but they aren't cold blooded murderers, not even Magneto. Hell even the original Juggernaut wouldn't murder in cold blood.

They did try to kill Kuurth when he came for them; Pixie tried teleporting him into the Sun.

No one on the Extinction team is invulnerable, yes they have defenses against strength but Hulk doesn't need to directly attack them to hurt them.

What are the stips for this thread anyway? Is this same Hulk that fought the X-Men? Or is any part of WWH usable?

Would there be a difference? As long as its not WBH I guess...but OP can clarify.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, I would. Seeing as X-men at FP includes the Phoenix....

Why, what part of my post did you not believe? WWH DID attack the mansion. Elixir DID negate the healing factor; WWH himself said so. Kitty DID phase him into the ground; and then left.

Its all there in the comic.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Agreed,but I'll like to note it was a holding back hulk and he did not even want to fight the
.....but seriously man all Hulk wanted to do is "talk" Xaveir....lol plus Which Colossus are u talking about you said colossus in one of your plans and than you said COLOSNAUT in your next plan??

Everytime I say colossus, I mean Colossonaut, my bad. As the term 'Colossaunaut' doesn't even exist in the comics, AFAIK.

How many people on the XMen can withstand a thunderclap from a pissed WWH?

all of them as they're in limbo

Also, if the hulk has no arms, I don't think he can thunder clap. I may be wrong.

Originally posted by carver9
How many people on the XMen can withstand a thunderclap from a pissed WWH?

Overall meaning. You maybe high lvl but does not prove your durable stats