X-23 vs Batman

Started by DarkSaint856 pages

plus, he does have the home advantage...

Originally posted by StyleTime
I apologize for the wait, but I couldn't access my scanner until a few moments ago. This is the most damage I recall her taking from a grenade or similar explosion. While she is quite crispy after the airstrike, she is a far cry from "blown apart."

No, that's not "according to my logic." The argument against your Batman example is PIS, not "it's unrealistic." If we base these discussions on realism, this entire forum is pointless. Batman kicks people through doors built to withstand missiles. X-23 has claws and heals from mortal wounds nigh-instantaneously. Superman hears people speak on other planets. These are facts of the comics, and "it's not realistic" is irrelevant in a discussion like this.

agreed, if batman can kick people through doors built to withstand missles, he can KO laura.

If she stands there and allows him to kick her for a prolonged period, yes.

Originally posted by StyleTime
If she stands there and allows him to kick her for a prolonged period, yes.

right, exactly. or he can just toss his flashbangs & explosives at her
& incapacitate her with his lines. whatever he feels like. 😄

Originally posted by Uriel005
Any particular reason? I mean hands down I'd give it to Laura in a straight up fight but I just don't see Bruce doing that. Like I said the biggest problem is if he can restrain her beyond the use of her claws. I think his wire is strong enough to restrain her from being able to cut through if he catches her for a second or two with gas or an electrical gadget.

Because her healing factor is too strong for her to be effected by Batman's standard gases in any noticeable way, and even if we ignore her claws, she is too strong and too fast to be restrained by wire. Laura was stated peak human at the age of seven before her mutation even kicked in (and the scientist that created her were disappointed that she was "only" peak human), now she is low level superhuman in both strength and speed.

It will take more than wire, flash bangs, high voltage tasers and low yield munitions to take Laura down, and Batman simple doesn't have the fire power to finish the job in his standard weaponry.

Originally posted by wildernesss
right, exactly. or he can just toss his flashbangs & explosives at her
& incapacitate her with his lines. whatever he feels like. 😄

She is fighting back in this match.

quick question: how do healing factors affect tasers? Because surely it shouldn't matter if you have one, you're still getting taken down by one.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
quick question: how do healing factors affect tasers? Because surely it shouldn't matter if you have one, you're still getting taken down by one.
Good question. I see no one can give an answer to this.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Good question. I see no one can give an answer to this.

I could, but then I'm smarter than you.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
quick question: how do healing factors affect tasers? Because surely it shouldn't matter if you have one, you're still getting taken down by one.

Healing factors are less effective in the resistance of tasers than pcp. dur

Seriously though... what are you talking about? And how do you come to such an asinine conclusion?

Originally posted by Wang 2.1
I could, but then I'm smarter than you.
Anyone who can answer that is a Wolverine fan. Nothing good comes out of that.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Anyone who can answer that is a Wolverine fan. Nothing good comes out of that.

I disagree, Shadowcat and Jubilee both lost their virginity through being Wolverine fans. I've seen the cartoon!

Originally posted by Wang 2.1
I disagree, Shadowcat and Jubilee both lost their virginity through being Wolverine fans. I've seen the cartoon!
You raise a swell point, but they are women, and therefore rape was a heavy influence.

Especially with Wolverine

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
You raise a swell point, but they are women, and therefore rape was a heavy influence.

Well they were girls but they certainly felt like 'real women' after the hairy hundred + year old dwarf had finished with them.

Originally posted by cdtm
Even with standard stuff, his belts usually brimming with flashbangs, sonics, explosives, razer sharp cutting batarangs.. Think he's even used scarecrow gas once or twice. (Scarecrow fear gas and yellow would be an awesome way for him to pay Hal back for the right cross, btw. 😄 )

If he dumps all that stuff on X 23 at once and tries to snare her in an entrapment device, he could pin her down long enough to qualify as a win, at least.

No one's saying he'd be able to win h2h without abusing the gadgets.


Batman's standard gear isn't enough to take out X-23. To take out Laura he'd need to be "loaded for bear", which isn't consistent with his character. Batman is a much more defensive fighter than she is, which normally works very well of him, however, best case scenario he is able to dodge her claws and foot blade. So what, he can't do it forever. Combine superb fighting skills and Laura's healing factor, you have a ferocity and endurance that Batman could never compete with. It would be a lot like the Bane fight. Batman would end up exhausted and destroyed.

I'm sorry but can someone post a scan of Laura not cutting restraints but actually snapping high tensile strength wires. I mean even at slightly superhuman levels I just don't see her snapping wire that can easily support a person dropping at terminal velocity.

Originally posted by Uriel005
I'm sorry but can someone post a scan of Laura not cutting restraints but actually snapping high tensile strength wires. I mean even at slightly superhuman levels I just don't see her snapping wire that can easily support a person dropping at terminal velocity.

Urinal scans or it's not true!

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Batman's standard gear isn't enough to take out X-23. To take out Laura he'd need to be "loaded for bear", which isn't consistent with his character. Batman is a much more defensive fighter than she is, which normally works very well of him, however, best case scenario he is able to dodge her claws and foot blade. So what, he can't do it forever. Combine superb fighting skills and Laura's healing factor, you have a ferocity and endurance that Batman could never compete with. It would be a lot like the Bane fight. Batman would end up exhausted and destroyed.

Why would a healing factor affect a taser's effectiveness?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why would a healing factor affect a taser's effectiveness?

Yeah. It would heal the damage, but an electrical current flowing through her should still affect her muscles and nervous system the same way it would affect anyone else.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah. It would heal the damage, but an electrical current flowing through her should still affect her muscles and nervous system the same way it would affect anyone else.
indeed and high tensile strength wire tends to work on people under class 15 strength regardless.