Avengers vs. X-Men - 2012 Marvel Event

What a load of BS. Psylocke trained by Ogun can't beat DD in h2h just because of his radar? And it's not the first or even second time she invaded a mind of a character with super senses...

I'm speechless. Most of the AvX fights are so bad it's unbearable.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What a load of BS. Psylocke trained by Ogun can't beat DD in h2h just because of his radar? And it's not the first or even second time she invaded a mind of a character with super senses...

I'm speechless. Most of the AvX fights are so bad it's unbearable.

I was curious about that fight and feat.

What other characters with super senses has she invaded?

And I don't see why invading a man's mind would eventuate in taking on his physical sensory history of migraines.

Does DD have history of forcing telepaths to deal with his sensory abilities?

The Thor fight was weird too!

He crushed her handedly but got pelted with diamond shards afterwards. I thought his durability was better than that!
I hope shards were infused with PF otherwise damn!

Poor Thor.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I was curious about that fight and feat.

What other characters with super senses has she invaded?

Sabretooth, Wolverine...

Originally posted by the ninjak

And I don't see why invading a man's mind would eventuate in taking on his physical sensory history of migraines.

Does DD have history of forcing telepaths to deal with his sensory abilities?

Exactly.

Not that I know of.

Originally posted by the ninjak

The Thor fight was weird too!

He crushed her handedly but got pelted with diamond shards afterwards. I thought his durability was better than that!
I hope shards were infused with PF otherwise damn!

Poor Thor.

And he was owned by telepathy before...

Updated list:

Avenger wins:
Black Panther beats Storm (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Black Widow beats Dr.Nemesis (Uncanny X-Men #13) *Happened off-panel
Captain America beats Cyclops (AvX #2)
Captain America beats Gambit (AvX Versus #2/AvX #4/Wolverine & the X-Men #11)
Captain America beats Warpath (AvX #4)
Iron Man beats Magneto (AvX Versus #1)
Iron Man droid beats Cannonball (X-Men Legacy #267)
Iron Man droid beats Frenzy (X-Men Legacy #267)
Iron Man droid beats Gambit (X-Men Legacy #267)
Iron Man droid beats Mimic (X-Men Legacy #267)
Iron Man droid beats Shadowcat (X-Men Legacy #267)
Rulk beats Colossnaut (Uncanny X-Men #11 & AvX #2) *Colossnaut lost intentionally
Rulk beats Psylocke (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Scarlet Witch beats Magik (Phoenix powered (AvX #7)
Scarlet Witch beats Namor (Phoenix powered (AvX #7)
She Hulk beats Hepzibah (Uncanny X-Men #12)
Thing beats Namor (AvX Versus #1)
Thing beats Sunspot (Uncanny X-Men #12)
Wolverine beats Kid Gladiator (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)

X-Men Wins:
Angel beats Warmachine (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Colossnaut beats Spider-Man (AvX Versus #2) *Spider-Man just left
Colossnaut beats Thing (AvX Versus#3)
Cyclops (Pheonix powered) beats Thor (AvX #3)
Dr.Nemesis beats Quicksilver (AvX #2)
Havok & Polaris beats Vision (AvX #7)
Hope beats Wolverine (AvX #2)
Kid Gladiator beats Giant-Man (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Kid Gladiator beats Quicksilver (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Magik beats Dr.Strange (AvX #2-3)
Magik beats Black Widow (AvX Versus #3)
Namor beats Cage (Uncanny X-Men #12)
Namor (Pheonix powered) beats Thor (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Namor (Pheonix powered) & Colossus (Pheonix powered) beats Gladiator (Wolverine and the X-Men #13)
Rachel Summers beats Black Widow (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Rogue beats Falcon (X-Men Legacy #267)
Rogue beats Iron Man droid (X-Men Legacy #267)
Rogue beats Moon Knight (X-Men Legacy #267) *MK lost intentionally
Rogue beats Ms.Marvel (X-Men Legacy #269)
Rogue beats She Hulk (X-Men Legacy #267)
White Queen (Pheonix powered) beats Hawkeye (AvX #7)
White Queen (Pheonix powered) beats Thor (AvX Versus #4)

Stalemates:
Beast vs. Iceman (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Captain America vs. Rachel Summers (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Captain America vs. Wolverine (AvX #3)
Daredevil vs. Psylocke (AvX Versus #4)
Gladiator vs. Cyclops (Pheonix powered) (Wolverine and the X-Men #13)
Moon Knight vs. Gambit (X-Men Legacy #267)
Rulk vs Colossnaut (AvX Versus #3)
Rulk vs. Iceman (Wolverine and the X-Men #10 & 11)
Thing vs Namor (Uncanny X-Men #12)
Thor vs. Rachel Summers (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Warbird vs. White Queen (Pheonix powered) (Wolverine and the X-Men #13) *Warbird is escorted away by Gladiator

Other fights:
Captain Marvel (Pheonix powered) beats Thor (????)
Cyttorak beats Colossus (Pheonix powered) (Uncanny X-Men #15)
Dangers beats Pixie (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Dangers beats Primal (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Dangers beats Transonic (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Dangers beats Velocidad (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Sebastian Shaw beats Hercules (Avengers Academy #30) *Mortal form
Sebastian Shaw beats Madison Jeffries/Box (Avengers Academy #30)
Sebastian Shaw beats Tigress (Avengers Academy #30)
Warbird beats Iceman (Wolverine and the X-Men #13)

Only fights that are conclusive (or one person shows a clear advantage) or have some substance (Rather then just one panel and not shown again) is mentioned in the above list.

Originally posted by the ninjak

And I don't see why invading a man's mind would eventuate in taking on his physical sensory history of migraines.

Also just read the New Avengers story it was actually pretty good imo.

Originally posted by Newjak
I took from it that she caused herself a life time of migraines not that she got DD's.

Also just read the New Avengers story it was actually pretty good imo.

Pretty good in an "pointless filler-issue" sort of way, sure.

Originally posted by Newjak
I took from it that she caused herself a life time of migraines not that she got DD's.

Also just read the New Avengers story it was actually pretty good imo.

Originally posted by Citizen V.
Pretty good in an "pointless filler-issue" sort of way, sure.

Originally posted by Badabing
I was hating those dirty mutants in New Avengers. I seriously hope Squirrel Girl solos them. dursquirrel

Is it me or did Marvel forget about the Nova-Pheonix subplot?

^ Nova'll probably wake up at some point before it ends. It is a 12-issue series, after all.

Updated list:

Avenger wins:
Beast, Black Panther, Captain America, Daredevil, Dr.Strange, Falcon, Quicksilver, Rulk, Scarlet Witch, Thing, Thor, Valkeyrie, & Vision beats Namor (Pheonix powered) (AvX #8)
Black Panther beats Storm (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Black Widow beats Dr.Nemesis (Uncanny X-Men #13) *Happened off-panel
Captain America beats Cyclops (AvX #2)
Captain America beats Gambit (AvX Versus #2/AvX #4/Wolverine & the X-Men #11)
Captain America beats Warpath (AvX #4)
Iron Man beats Magneto (AvX Versus #1)
Iron Man droid beats Cannonball (X-Men Legacy #267)
Iron Man droid beats Frenzy (X-Men Legacy #267)
Iron Man droid beats Gambit (X-Men Legacy #267)
Iron Man droid beats Mimic (X-Men Legacy #267)
Iron Man droid beats Shadowcat (X-Men Legacy #267)
Rulk beats Colossnaut (Uncanny X-Men #11 & AvX #2) *Colossnaut lost intentionally
Rulk beats Psylocke (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Scarlet Witch beats Magik (Phoenix powered (AvX #7)
Scarlet Witch beats Namor (Phoenix powered (AvX #7)
She Hulk beats Hepzibah (Uncanny X-Men #12)
Thing beats Namor (AvX Versus #1)
Thing beats Sunspot (Uncanny X-Men #12)
Wolverine beats Kid Gladiator (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)

X-Men Wins:
Angel beats Warmachine (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Colossnaut beats Spider-Man (AvX Versus #2) *Spider-Man just left
Colossnaut beats Thing (AvX Versus#3)
Cyclops (Pheonix powered) beats Thor (AvX #3)
Dr.Nemesis beats Quicksilver (AvX #2)
Havok & Polaris beats Vision (AvX #7)
Hope beats Wolverine (AvX #2)
Kid Gladiator beats Giant-Man (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Kid Gladiator beats Quicksilver (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Magik beats Dr.Strange (AvX #2-3)
Magik beats Black Widow (AvX Versus #3)
Namor beats Cage (Uncanny X-Men #12)
Namor (Pheonix powered) beats Thor (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Namor (Pheonix powered) beats Thor (AvX #8)
Namor (Pheonix powered) & Colossus (Pheonix powered) beats Gladiator (Wolverine and the X-Men #13)
Rachel Summers beats Black Widow (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Rogue beats Falcon (X-Men Legacy #267)
Rogue beats Iron Man droid (X-Men Legacy #267)
Rogue beats Moon Knight (X-Men Legacy #267) *MK lost intentionally
Rogue beats Ms.Marvel (X-Men Legacy #269)
Rogue beats She Hulk (X-Men Legacy #267)
White Queen (Pheonix powered) beats Hawkeye (AvX #7)
White Queen (Pheonix powered) beats Sentinel (Juston Seyfort) (Avengers Academy #33)
White Queen (Pheonix powered) beats Thor (AvX Versus #4)

Stalemates:
Beast vs. Iceman (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Captain America vs. Rachel Summers (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Captain America vs. Wolverine (AvX #3)
Daredevil vs. Psylocke (AvX Versus #4)
Gladiator vs. Cyclops (Pheonix powered) (Wolverine and the X-Men #13)
Moon Knight vs. Gambit (X-Men Legacy #267)
Rulk vs Colossnaut (AvX Versus #3)
Rulk vs. Iceman (Wolverine and the X-Men #10 & 11)
Thing vs Namor (Uncanny X-Men #12)
Thor vs. Rachel Summers (Wolverine and the X-Men #12)
Warbird vs. White Queen (Pheonix powered) (Wolverine and the X-Men #13) *Warbird is escorted away by Gladiator

Other fights:
Captain Marvel (Pheonix powered) beats Thor (????)
Cyttorak beats Colossus (Pheonix powered) (Uncanny X-Men #15)
Dangers beats Pixie (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Dangers beats Primal (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Dangers beats Transonic (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Dangers beats Velocidad (Uncanny X-Men #13)
Madelyne Pryor (3 clones) beats Cyclops (Pheonix powered) (Uncanny X-men #16)
Madelyne Pryor (3+ clones) beats Magik & Colossus (Pheonix powered) (Uncanny X-men #16)
Madelyne Pryor (six clones) beats Namor (Pheonix powered) (Uncanny X-men #16)
Madelyne Pryor (unknown number of clones) beats White Queen (Pheonix powered) (Uncanny X-men #16)
Sebastian Shaw beats Hercules (Avengers Academy #30) *Mortal form
Sebastian Shaw beats Madison Jeffries/Box (Avengers Academy #30)
Sebastian Shaw beats Tigress (Avengers Academy #30)
Warbird beats Iceman (Wolverine and the X-Men #13)

Only fights that are conclusive (or one person shows a clear advantage) or have some substance (Rather then just one panel and not shown again) is mentioned in the above list.

AVX! Who ever wins, we lose 😈

Personally I found Thor vs. Emma to be one of the least awful fights in this event so far, in terms of believability. The dialogue and narration was terrible, though. Now to comment on some of the others:

Black Panther beats Storm (Uncanny X-Men #13) - still say this is BS

Angel beats Warmachine (Wolverine and the X-Men #12) - This one was just dumb

Daredevil vs. Psylocke (AvX Versus #4) - Just terrible, and made no sense

Cyttorak beats Colossus (Pheonix powered) (Uncanny X-Men #15) - This, on the other hand, was awesome.

Warbird beats Iceman (Wolverine and the X-Men #13) - Badly written

I have not been keeping up with this at all. Can someone explain to me the Phoenix 5 - how did they end up with that power? What are their goals? And are their powers different, all the same, amps of their standard powers, or?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I have not been keeping up with this at all. Can someone explain to me the Phoenix 5 - how did they end up with that power?

Phoenix Force is heading to Earth. X-Men think it will help restart the mutant race. Avengers think it will destroy the Earth. Iron Man builds a Phoenix buster suit and blasts it but instead splits it into 5 pieces that go into the 5 mutants.

What are their goals?

Fix the world, feed the hungry, enforce peace and end war, generally try to make the world a utopia. Also capture all of the Avengers.

And are their powers different, all the same, amps of their standard powers, or?

Amps of their original powers + Phoenix powers like TP, TK, flight, matter manipulation, regeneration, super strength and speed, etc.

So Thor got his usual asswhoopin....

Originally posted by Estacado
So Thor got his usual asswhoopin....

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
You can almost set your watch by it.

- Kieron Gillen will write an Avengers Vs. X-Men aftermath miniseries, AVX: Consequences. Someone's going to kick the bucket by the end of the series, and the popular opinion seems to lean toward Cyclops. [Comics Alliance]

Doubt it will be Cyclops as he is in the promotional stuff for Marvel Now and with a new costume.