Thought-Based Attack vs...Speedblitz

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thinking of a destination is not the same - are you saying that you can think much much faster than the speed of light? You're mixing an abstract concept (thinking of something) vs a physical concept (arriving at a destination).

C'mon bro you know what I'm saying 😉. If the Flash moved at the speed of light, and the destination was 9 light years away, I could go to sleep wake up take a shower, get married, and still think of the destination faster than it would take the Flash to arrive at said destination, with 8+ years to spare.

Originally posted by Stoic
C'mon bro you know what I'm saying 😉. If the Flash moved at the speed of light, and the destination was 9 light years away, I could go to sleep wake up take a shower, get married, and still think of the destination faster than it would take the Flash to arrive at said destination, with 8+ years to spare.

Lol, by that logic, you can write about the destination before the Flash arrives. Can you write at the speed of light?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, by that logic, you can write about the destination before the Flash arrives. Can you write at the speed of light?

ha ha. In this case I wouldn't have to. You have to admit though, that depending on the distance, the speed of thought is faster than the speed of light.

Originally posted by Stoic
ha ha. In this case I wouldn't have to. You have to admit though, that depending on the distance, the speed of thought is faster than the speed of light.

Lol, see I still don't think so, because I see it as comparing apples and oranges. Your thoughts aren't travelling, as it were, so its not comparable. If the speed of thought is constant, which it is (your thoughts don't speed up lol), and the speed of light is constant, then distance does not matter! Time taken = Distance divided by speed, so if the distance is the same in our little race, and speed does not change, you can't have the speed of thought outracing the speed of light over long distances as opposed to short distances.

Would you be able to send a thought to your destination faster than the speed of light, that is the question.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Thought isn't actually as fast as light though. When have Jean and them shown to halt things going ftl in their tracks before getting hit? If they can then it means they themselves think ftl not that thought in general is.

Actually speed isn't time. You need distance.

For example, a mere human can react to a lightspeed attack if it came from a distance where light needs a second to travel.

In this thread i think we assume battle distance (.5 km) and someone who is able to move at light speed almost instantly (like flash).

Originally posted by Stoic
ha ha. In this case I wouldn't have to. You have to admit though, that depending on the distance, the speed of thought is faster than the speed of light.

Only because the distance it's crossing is shorter.

Originally posted by h1a8
Actually speed isn't time. You need distance.

For example, a mere human can react to a lightspeed attack if it came from a distance where light needs a second to travel.

In this thread i think we assume battle distance (.5 km) and someone who is able to move at light speed almost instantly (like flash).

Nah. Because you won't see it lol, as sight is dependent on the light bouncing off the object (in this case, a fist).

Originally posted by -Pr-
Only because the distance it's crossing is shorter.

Precisely. So in essence, if I could instantly be at a destination 9 light years away, I in fact have broken the speed of light by an incredible margin. Thought is faster than light, we just have to figure out something faster than thought.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, see I still don't think so, because I see it as comparing apples and oranges. Your thoughts aren't travelling, as it were, so its not comparable. If the speed of thought is constant, which it is (your thoughts don't speed up lol), and the speed of light is constant, then distance does not matter! Time taken = Distance divided by speed, so if the distance is the same in our little race, and speed does not change, you can't have the speed of thought outracing the speed of light over long distances as opposed to short distances.

Would you be able to send a thought to your destination faster than the speed of light, that is the question.

At first a Honda Civic appears to be faster than a big rig Mack Truck, but the truth becomes evident over the distance, when we see that the truck is nearly 1.5x as fast as the Civic at top speeds. The same example can and should be applied to the speed of thought vs the speed of light.

Originally posted by Stoic
Precisely. So in essence, if I could instantly be at a destination 9 light years away, I in fact have broken the speed of light by an incredible margin. Thought is faster than light, we just have to figure out something faster than thought.

Thinking about something is not the same as travelling to it, though. I can write about something, it does not = me travelling to it. I can type the words 'Stoic travelled to Alpha Centauri, which is about 4 light years away'. Does this mean the speed of typing is faster than the speed of light???? So by the same logic, thinking about something is not the same as travelling to it, otherwise I'd never have to pay all those expensive air fares to travel lol.

At first a Honda Civic appears to be faster than a big rig Mack Truck, but the truth becomes evident over the distance, when we see that the truck is nearly 1.5x as fast as the Civic at top speeds. The same example can and should be applied to the speed of though vs the speed of light. [/B]

So you're saying, your thoughts speed up?

Nothing, NOTHING is faster than light. You're comparing abstract concepts with a physical concept, and never the twain should meet...

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Originally posted by Stoic
Precisely. So in essence, if I could [b]instantly be at a destination 9 light years away, I in fact have broken the speed of light by an incredible margin. Thought is faster than light, we just have to figure out something faster than thought.

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No the only distance is being done between ur brain and ur body, it's much shorter than getting from Earth to the end of the universe.

It's liek saying I walk faster than a car, because I can get to the edge of my door before a car across town can do the same.

your thoughts aren't actually traveling to that place, even if you teleport you not teleporting at the speed of thought, the thought is activated a separate physical mechanism.

If u were to run at the exact speed it takes your thoughts to complete, you'd be going much slower than light.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thinking about something is not the same as travelling to it, though. I can write about something, it does not = me travelling to it. I can type the words 'Stoic travelled to Alpha Centauri, which is about 4 light years away'. Does this mean the speed of typing is faster than the speed of light???? So by the same logic, thinking about something is not the same as travelling to it, otherwise I'd never have to pay all those expensive air fares to travel lol.

So you're saying, your thoughts speed up?

Nothing, NOTHING is faster than light. You're comparing abstract concepts with a physical concept, and never the twain should meet...

No thought does not speed up, it was always faster than light, it was my ability to create the thought that was the slow point, once the thought is released however, there is nothing physically faster. it would overtake light speed the way a super sonic jet would overtake a turtle. It's not really as abstract as you might at first believe, and in fact, if you were to just think about it you would see that light is very slow in comparison. perhaps I am not explaining it in a way that you can agree with, but -Pr- immediately understood what I was talking about.

Thought is not about distance, but the ability to bridge that distance instantly.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nah. Because you won't see it lol, as sight is dependent on the light bouncing off the object (in this case, a fist).

😂 right
well assuming one with human reflexes but can sense things without light having to bounce off then you get the point. Or better yet, if the said attack WAS STATED to be delivered in your exact location 1 sec after the starting bell.

Originally posted by jalek moye
No the only distance is being done between ur brain and ur body, it's much shorter than getting from Earth to the end of the universe.

It's liek saying I walk faster than a car, because I can get to the edge of my door before a car across town can do the same.

your thoughts aren't actually traveling to that place, even if you teleport you not teleporting at the speed of thought, the thought is activated a separate physical mechanism.

If u were to run at the exact speed it takes your thoughts to complete, you'd be going much slower than light.

You do know what instantly means right? If I could instantly be wherever i thought of being, I would be moving far faster than light speed.

Originally posted by Stoic
No thought does not speed up, it was always faster than light, it was my ability to create the thought that was the slow point, once the thought is released however, there is nothing physically faster. it would overtake light speed the way a super sonic jet would overtake a turtle. It's not really as abstract as you might at first believe, and in fact, if you were to just think about it you would see that light is very slow in comparison. perhaps I am not explaining it in a way that you can agree with, but -Pr- immediately understood what I was talking about.

Thought is not about distance, but the ability to bridge that distance instantly.

If you are referring to the speed of telepathy after it is released then i think it has variable speeds in comics by different characters. But some are indeed faster than light.

But this is irrelevant since the battle distance is sufficiently small enough to blitz before the thought is released.

Originally posted by Stoic
You do know what instantly means right? If I could instantly be wherever i thought of being, I would be moving far faster than light speed.

I think I am slowly (my thought processes obviously run slower lol) am getting what you mean. The actual process to get the thought started is slow, but once it happens, it happens. I get ya. You're absolutely correct.

However, with that said, you'd still lose to the Flash lol. Unless of course, you cheated by travelling by use of some other method such as wormholes etc.

An example would be Magik. Say she raced the Flash to Alpha Centauri. She would think of her destination, go into Limbo and then pop out at her destination, beating the Flash. However, if she travelled by some method of transmitting her molecules to the destination, then she'd lose.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think I am slowly (my thought processes obviously run slower lol) am getting what you mean. The actual process to get the thought started is slow, but once it happens, it happens. I get ya. You're absolutely correct.

However, with that said, you'd still lose to the Flash lol. Unless of course, you cheated by travelling by use of some other method such as wormholes etc.

An example would be Magik. Say she raced the Flash to Alpha Centauri. She would think of her destination, go into Limbo and then pop out at her destination, beating the Flash. However, if she travelled by some method of transmitting her molecules to the destination, then she'd lose.

Well that's what instantly means. Thought bridging the gap would be a wormhole, and thus be at the destination far faster than light. If man ever achieved light speed, he would find a way to go faster. I would compare traveling at light speed vs traveling at the speed of thought (or instantaneous transit) to walking to California from France vs taking a jet plane there. bridging the gap, is faster than physically going the entire distance. In a way this is true when you count distance.

Originally posted by Stoic
You do know what instantly means right? If I could instantly be wherever i thought of being, I would be moving far faster than light speed.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you are referring to the speed of telepathy after it is released then i think it has variable speeds in comics by different characters. But some are indeed faster than light.

But this is irrelevant since the battle distance is sufficiently small enough to blitz before the thought is released.

Go back to my first post, and read what I said. I made two points.

Originally posted by jalek moye
But the thought itself isn't instant. It takes time for the thought to form. Once your thought tells your body to teleport then the teleport is instant. But it's a separate thing from the actual process of thinking. Thinking takes time, teleporting doesn't. It still takes time for the thought to reach whatever part activates it.

I tell the Flash who can move a little faster than the speed of light to meet me at Exalom 19. I think in my mind of Exalom 19, which is 900 billion light years away from the Earth, and have the power to be there instantly. Not only would the Flash never arrive at the destination due to his death, but I would die before he reached even one tenth of the distance. Remove the teleporter's, and just think of the concept as opening a door to get to another room. Thus bridging the gap. They spoke of this theory on the Science channel, and it even aired on Discovery. I am not a crack pot.