In other words, if Prof X was sitting in a chair (am assuming he is still crippled), and I was standing with a crowbar about 50 metres away from him. We are both humans, so have roughly comparable reaction times. Of course he is going to stunbolt me before I get anywhere near him, no matter how fast I am relative to him. But give me Flash-level reaction times, and as soon as I see the bell ring I'd have hit him. And this would be even before Prof X has even heard the bell ring, as light travels faster than sound.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
In other words, if Prof X was sitting in a chair (am assuming he is still crippled), and I was standing with a crowbar about 50 metres away from him. We are both humans, so have roughly comparable reaction times. Of course he is going to stunbolt me before I get anywhere near him, no matter how fast I am relative to him. But give me Flash-level reaction times, and as soon as I see the bell ring I'd have hit him. And this would be even before Prof X has even heard the bell ring, as light travels faster than sound.
I think we can all agree that given that most telepaths are humans, at short distances, they'd get stomped by speedsters, but increasing distance would increase their chances depending on how fast the speedster is.
I guess the X-Men know what their doing when they have the grunts i.e. Wolverine and Colossus go in busting, long range i.e. Cyclops taking out enemies from the distance and the telepaths hanging at the back.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
I think we can all agree that given that most telepaths are humans, at short distances, they'd get stomped by speedsters, but increasing distance would increase their chances depending on how fast the speedster is.I guess the X-Men know what their doing when they have the grunts i.e. Wolverine and Colossus go in busting, long range i.e. Cyclops taking out enemies from the distance and the telepaths hanging at the back.
Agreed on all counts.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why? If I'm telepathic and can read minds, that does't automatically mean I have superfast reflexes, any more so than my ability to read a book gives me additonal powers.Aprt from the power of KNOWLEDGE!!!
thats the point your not getting hun, a telepath does not need "reflexes"...all he has to do is "think" the attack...similar to the gorilla grodd scan, but id have to see the entire fight again to remember the context
Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ 👆but incredibly [b]its propelling the farther Galaxies outward faster than the speed of light
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But thought is not faster than light when it is forming. For example, the average human reaction time is .215 seconds. But that is only a "GO" reaction and not a complicated one such as trying to mind rape someone.
Originally posted by h1a8That sounds like crack pot science to me.
Sources?
I caught this a few months back on the Science Channel
But here are many links you can choose from,
or google it yourself and the same results will enlighten you.
"There are many galaxies visible in telescopes with red shift numbers of 1.4 or higher.
All of these are currently traveling away from us at speeds greater than the speed of light."
"Now that we have a taste for Einstein’s theory,
we know that baseballs don’t go faster than the speed of light.
But is there anything that can?
It turns out that the speed of light is only a limit on objects –
like baseballs – as they move through space.
The movement of space itself, however, can make the speed of light seem slow."
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=575
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_expansion_of_space
http://scienceline.org/2007/07/ask-romero-speedoflight/
http://www.universetoday.com/13808/how-can-galaxies-recede-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090525193744AAeGSLM
http://bigthink.com/ideas/24863?page=all
http://www.desy.de/user/projects/Physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/FTL.html
Originally posted by h1a8But thought is not faster than light when it is forming.
For example, the average human reaction time is .215 seconds.
But that is only a "GO" reaction and not a complicated one such as trying to mind rape someone.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah friend, this is nowadays a known Fact! ... not even a theory.I caught this a few months back on the Science Channel
But here are many links you can choose from,
or google it yourself and the same results will enlighten you."There are many galaxies visible in telescopes with red shift numbers of 1.4 or higher.
All of these are currently traveling away from us at speeds greater than the speed of light.""Now that we have a taste for Einstein’s theory,
, however, can make the speed of light seem slow."
we know that baseballs don’t go faster than the speed of light.
But is there anything that can?
It turns out that the speed of light is only a limit on objects –
like baseballs – as they move through space.
[b]The movement of space itselfhttp://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=575
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_expansion_of_space
http://scienceline.org/2007/07/ask-romero-speedoflight/
http://www.universetoday.com/13808/how-can-galaxies-recede-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090525193744AAeGSLM
http://bigthink.com/ideas/24863?page=all
http://www.desy.de/user/projects/Physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/FTL.html
I agree. [/B]
nice, i am totally feeling this post
Originally posted by Mr MasterThank you. I learned something new today. I don't remember my astronomy class of a long time ago ever discussing this. Prehaps it's new or I missed class those days.
Nah friend, this is nowadays a known Fact! ... not even a theory.I caught this a few months back on the Science Channel
But here are many links you can choose from,
or google it yourself and the same results will enlighten you."There are many galaxies visible in telescopes with red shift numbers of 1.4 or higher.
All of these are currently traveling away from us at speeds greater than the speed of light.""Now that we have a taste for Einstein’s theory,
, however, can make the speed of light seem slow."
we know that baseballs don’t go faster than the speed of light.
But is there anything that can?
It turns out that the speed of light is only a limit on objects –
like baseballs – as they move through space.
[b]The movement of space itselfhttp://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=575
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_expansion_of_space
http://scienceline.org/2007/07/ask-romero-speedoflight/
http://www.universetoday.com/13808/how-can-galaxies-recede-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090525193744AAeGSLM
http://bigthink.com/ideas/24863?page=all
http://www.desy.de/user/projects/Physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/FTL.html
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'd also say that it depends on the power of the telepath, just as it depends on the speedster's....speed.
agreed. more powerful telepaths seems to be able to think faster than the weaker ones which doesn't make sense. but thats comic for you.
actually, i even see a double KO scenario. if the distance between the speedster and the telepath is far enough for the telepath to fry the speedster's brain or fire out an AOE mental blast, but isn't far enough for the speedster to physically stop, there is no way in hell the telepath would able to dodge and get out of the way hence, the now unconscious or brain fried speedster would continue on its course and collide with the telepath 😛 unless of course the speedster is running in a zig zag manner, but that doesn't make sense.
Originally posted by h1a8
But thought is not faster than light when it is forming. For example, the average human reaction time is .215 seconds. But that is only a "GO" reaction and not a complicated one such as trying to mind rape someone.
Never thought I'd say this but I agree with h1. Thought, when already generated is instantaneous, what ever the hell that means, but the generation of though is what matters. As a rule, speedsters have faster perception and reaction time than most. If they didn't they'd be ramming into walls and shit.
Only way a telepath would win a quick draw is if off the bat he or she just fires off an AOE mental bomb. And that's a big If.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
thats the point your not getting hun, a telepath does not need "reflexes"...all he has to do is "think" the attack...similar to the gorilla grodd scan, but id have to see the entire fight again to remember the context
but that's the point: someone like, say, flash, thinks faster than xavier, so even if xavier is about to think "attack", barry allen has already thought about it, moved across the room and knocked him out.
shaggyman, grundy, thanos, darkseid, hulk, juggernaut, Mogul all hit FTL characters all the time. So is all that PIS? is the shaggyman ripping through the JLA pis? if you move at FTL speeds you should never get hit...ever, but they always do. Since it always happens does it override the PIS?
It's expected that mongul can hit superman. lightspeed fighitng is always very hard for me to argue for and against. since there are so many examples of them getting hit. If its accepted that mongul can hit diana, why cant spider man or nightcrawler hit diana as well?
Shaggyman hit WW and SM while huntress and batman dance around him and hit him with arrows and grenades. Same with Hulk vs glads or surfer...so that cancels the notion that these bricks have reflexes FTL since they have trouble hitting street levelers like bats, cap and wolverine but they end up hitting lightspeeders as well.
I've always wondered that of VS boards like this. A lot of people say shaggyman can beat superman. There is no way shaggyman thinks FTL but he was created at the same time to stomp on the JLA. So is every shaggyman vs the jla battle pis? Thor can hit the surfer and at the same time get hit by the hulk or thing. it's this inconsistency that makes the speedblitz such a difficult thing to argue about.
It might be abc logic, (and it can be flawed) but you also measure the character by the opponents he has faced. that's how you know where they stand power wise.
Originally posted by nwg202
shaggyman, grundy, thanos, darkseid, hulk, juggernaut, Mogul all hit FTL characters all the time. So is all that PIS? is the shaggyman ripping through the JLA pis? if you move at FTL speeds you should never get hit...ever, but they always do. Since it always happens does it override the PIS?It's expected that mongul can hit superman. lightspeed fighitng is always very hard for me to argue for and against. since there are so many examples of them getting hit. If its accepted that mongul can hit diana, why cant spider man or nightcrawler hit diana as well?
Shaggyman hit WW and SM while huntress and batman dance around him and hit him with arrows and grenades. Same with Hulk vs glads or surfer...so that cancels the notion that these bricks have reflexes FTL since they have trouble hitting street levelers like bats, cap and wolverine but they end up hitting lightspeeders as well.
I've always wondered that of VS boards like this. A lot of people say shaggyman can beat superman. There is no way shaggyman thinks FTL but he was created at the same time to stomp on the JLA. So is every shaggyman vs the jla battle pis? Thor can hit the surfer and at the same time get hit by the hulk or thing. it's this inconsistency that makes the speedblitz such a difficult thing to argue about.
It might be abc logic, (and it can be flawed) but you also measure the character by the opponents he has faced. that's how you know where they stand power wise.
It's very easy to explain. See characters don't always fight at their best abilities in comics in order to have a good story. Speed is the one power that would make a comic very boring if anyone always used it effectively. The character would be absolutely unbeatable and there would be no challenge. It would be like the last man on Earth with a bunch of mannequins around with nothing to do but win.
Comics need this type of jobbing for fast characters, but in a forum fight characters fight at their best and will avoid jobbing for the sake of the story.
Originally posted by h1a8
It's very easy to explain. See characters don't always fight at their best abilities in comics in order to have a good story. Speed is the one power that would make a comic very boring if anyone always used it effectively. The character would be absolutely unbeatable and there would be no challenge. It would be like the last man on Earth with a bunch of mannequins around with nothing to do but win.Comics need this type of jobbing for fast characters, but in a forum fight characters fight at their best and will avoid jobbing for the sake of the story.
Well it happens in the forums too. Most people think shaggyman beat supes. Everyone thinks thanos heats superman too. Classic strange is though of as unbeatable. but he has to utter spells and use hand gestures. Saying quicksilver northstar or photon beating classic stange is just wrong. do all these hell lords like mephisto and hela move at the speed of light? but its a given they beat a lot of lightspeeders...how do reality warpers even win when they cant think as fast as light speeders? How does thanos or darkseid really beat the flash? how do they even see him?
it's like my character can do this and this manipulate this from of energy have telepathy use powerful magic etc...well my character can speedblitz so i win...