Originally posted by Stoic
I tell the Flash who can move a little faster than the speed of light to meet me at Exalom 19. I think in my mind of Exalom 19, which is 900 billion light years away from the Earth, and have the power to be there instantly. Not only would the Flash never arrive at the destination due to his death, but I would die before he reached even one tenth of the distance. Remove the teleporter's, and just think of the concept as opening a door to get to another room. Thus bridging the gap. They spoke of this theory on the Science channel, and it even aired on Discovery. I am not a crack pot.
Lol no one said you were, mate. You're right, if you could 'portal' your way over to Exalom 19, then yes, you would reach it ahead of any lightspeeders.
So as per the OP (before we get sidetracked), if my opponent was indeed on Exalom 19, and I was powerful enough to mindrape them from Earth, then yes, I would say that mindraping is faster. I doubt that was the kind of attack Sin I Am had in mind, though lol.
Originally posted by Stoic
Go back to my first post, and read what I said. I made two points.
I addressed those points. I argued variability in comics. Meaning not all telepathy travels faster than light (some do though). With the telepathy that is faster then you are right. Also, your other point is irrelevant since we assume battle distance here unless stated otherwise, and it takes more time to generate the thought than it does for a true speedster to cover the battle distance.
Am I missing something? If so then just restate what I missed.
Originally posted by Mindship
For myself, I'd rather be able to speedblitz than mindrape.
But how would you do that if the mind raper (Bad Bug X) knew that you (the rapee) were going to speed blitz before you even begun lifting an arm? Would you not be shut down? Could Bad Bug X, make you believe that you are hitting him, while in fact you would be hitting the bricks? 😖hifty:
Originally posted by Stoic
But how would you do that if the mind raper (Bad Bug X) knew that you (the rapee) were going to speed blitz before you even begun lifting an arm? Would you not be shut down? Could Bad Bug X, make you believe that you are hitting him, while in fact you would be hitting the bricks? 😖hifty:
Surely the mind rapist wouldn't be able to read my thoughts, because I'd be thinking too fast for him. Like trying to read a book by flipping the pages.
And by the time he's trying to read my thoughts, I've punched him in his shiny mutant-loving head.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol no one said you were, mate. You're right, if you could 'portal' your way over to Exalom 19, then yes, you would reach it ahead of any lightspeeders.So as per the OP (before we get sidetracked), if my opponent was indeed on Exalom 19, and I was powerful enough to mindrape them from Earth, then yes, I would say that mindraping is faster. I doubt that was the kind of attack Sin I Am had in mind, though lol.
I know... shhhh! 😂
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Surely the mind rapist wouldn't be able to read my thoughts, because I'd be thinking too fast for him. Like trying to read a book by flipping the pages.And by the time he's trying to read my thoughts, I've punched him in his shiny mutant-loving head.
You said it, I didn't. Apply this reasoning to my earlier posts. Just do it for a second, and what do you get? but while you do imagine the Flash with TP.
Originally posted by Stoic
You said it, I didn't. Apply this reasoning to my earlier posts. Just do it for a second, and what do you get?
Not quite sure what I'm supposed to be reasoning lol. As a speedster, my thought processes are far faster than a normal human's, even one as well trained as Prof X (I'm ignoring alien telepaths because that opens up a can of worms lol).
It's like having two PCs, but one is on superfast optic fibre broadband (the speedster) and the other is on dialup (the telepath). Sure, both can do the same basic thing, which is watch porn (i.e. thinking about fighting) but one PC is going to achieve it much much quicker than the other.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not quite sure what I'm supposed to be reasoning lol. As a speedster, my thought processes are far faster than a normal human's, even one as well trained as Prof X (I'm ignoring alien telepaths because that opens up a can of worms lol).It's like having two PCs, but one is on superfast optic fibre broadband (the speedster) and the other is on dialup (the telepath). Sure, both can do the same basic thing, which is watch porn (i.e. thinking about fighting) but one PC is going to achieve it much much quicker than the other.
If the Flash had TP he would make the speed of thought even faster, thus he would not only be able to perceive his opponents thoughts quicker, but he would be able to mind rape them faster as well.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
This says it all.
Originally posted by Stoic
If the Flash had TP he would make the speed of thought even faster, thus he would not only be able to perceive his opponents thoughts quicker, but he would be able to mind rape them faster as well.
Yes, but I think the OP's intention was two humans (or two Martians, or whatever), one with superspeed, one with telepathy, who would be faster. As I said, ignoring people like MM who can speedblitz AND mind rape...
This says it all.
You do know Flash moves faster than thought, right? JLA #20, when him, MM, Superman and WW break out of prison as they're 'faster than thought', and overpower their telepathic prison wardens.
So it comes down to whomever can think faster, because if this was well thought out. The Speedster wouldn't be able to do anything, as the mind raper could make him think that he is doing all of these things, while in the mean time, the speedster may be actually sitting in a dark corner being prepared for the probe.
Originally posted by Stoic
So it comes down to whomever can think faster, because if this was well thought out. The Speedster wouldn't be able to do anything, as the mind raper could make him think that he is doing all of these things, while in the mean time, the speedster may be actually sitting in a dark corner being prepared for the probe.
Exactly. And by definition, the human who can move faster will think and react faster than the human who thinks at normal speeds.
Unless of course, you give the telepath prep time. Otherwise, if as per battle rules they start at opposite ends of a field, the bell goes DING....
The speedster would have smacked the telepath before the sound of the bell has even reached the telepath's ears....
Originally posted by srankmissingninWe already discussed that and agreed that telepathy can be faster than light. The discussion then became about the speedster getting to the telepath before they can form the thought or react to the bell. Because after the telepath thinks then it's too late and the telepathy will beat the speedster.
Xavier and Lilandra have communicated telepathically across galaxies with seemingly no delay or lag. Do with that information what you will.
Originally posted by Stoic
Precisely. So in essence, if I could [b]instantly be at a destination 9 light years away, I in fact have broken the speed of light by an incredible margin. Thought is faster than light, we just have to figure out something faster than thought.[/B]
Thought in and of itself isn't faster than light though.
Thought is a process, not one singular thing. An average human's thought isn't FTL. For someone like Barry Allen, well, he thinks faster than anyone, so in essence, you could argue that his were.