Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If you really believe Gladiator is clearly stronger than Superman, Thor, Hulk, etc., then you're going to have to settle on one of two things.A.) If said planet busting feat is intended to be legitimate than that's easily his best feat ever outside of combat (ie. space cheese feat). And if that one and only feat is what you're using to justify Gladiator being > those guys, you really don't want to see the high end feats from them. Usually when one character is stronger than another, there's multiple examples to justify it, not just one feat (the only feat) in which people cling to for deal life.
B.) Said feat, while impressive, is nothing to brag about as we don't know anything about the planet/planetoid and we already know how Gladiator fares in direct combat with his peers such as Hulk and Thor.
Spoiler:
he gets his ass kicked
You know better than this Jake. He never fought Thor (well, not a Canon version of Gladiator).
Originally posted by abhilegend
Just for lulz, Terrax destroys a planet by a single shot from his axe, he must be more powerful than every herald, right?
Terrax control the planet itself. That was MUCH more than a physical ft and its not outside of his power to destroy a planet either (since again, he control the planet itself).
Originally posted by carver9
Terrax control the planet itself. That was MUCH more than a physical ft and its not outside of his power to destroy a planet either (since again, he control the planet itself).
I'm pretty sure that Terrax was specifically not using any other might than raw power at the moment.
Trying a bit to hard to undermine the feat Carver. Why do you always got to such lengths?
Anyways, Bill destroyed a planet by hitting Stardust. Surfer and Morg destroyed a planet using their raw energy by hitting each other etc.
He is far from the only herald capable of busting a planet.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympushow big were these planets that these guys destroyed? I've seen comics where someone destroys a rock about the size of maybe a football stadium, and it is claimed that he is a planet destroyer...
I'm pretty sure that Terrax was specifically not using any other might than raw power at the moment.Trying a bit to hard to undermine the feat Carver. Why do you always got to such lengths?
Anyways, Bill destroyed a planet by hitting Stardust. Surfer and Morg destroyed a planet using their raw energy by hitting each other etc.
He is far from the only herald capable of busting a planet.
I've yet to seen anyone destroy anything the size of an actual planet. its why these same characters, when fighting on earth, barely can create a crater larger than a few miles wide even with their most powerful blows. but when they blow up a circular rock the size of a small building, they're elevated to planet destroyers.
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Originally posted by Starscream M
how big were these planets that these guys destroyed? I've seen comics where someone destroys a rock about the size of maybe a football stadium, and it is claimed that he is a planet destroyer...I've yet to seen anyone destroy anything the size of an actual planet. its why these same characters, when fighting on earth, barely can create a crater larger than a few miles wide even with their most powerful blows. but when they blow up a circular rock the size of a small building, they're elevated to planet destroyers.
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I'm going to guess that they're somewhere between the Earth and the moon.
People don't destroy the Earth when they fight nearby because it's the Earth. It doesn't in itself prove that a character has the inability to destroy the Earth if they have other feats.
Originally posted by country1000
Ok. superman and others failed to keep the earth in orbit, superman needed thors hammer to bust open something, he needed help to move a moon and a planet, Yet he has infinite strength?? The point is ( jake ) is that he has hundreds of canon feats that shows that he is not mr infinite strength.
this thread has become fantastic. thanks for joining the discussion. 🙂
so, it's your contention that gladiator is the strongest herald, correct? stronger than hulk, thor and superman and any of the others. and you use the fact that he punched a planet into dust as the ONLY reason for this to be true? or do you have other reasons? and how MUCH stronger? is he WAY stronger?
and iyo is gladiator stronger than warrior mad thor? or thor with his belt of strength on? is he stronger than a sundipped superman? how about thanos? is he stronger than thanos iyo? or classic drax? drax literally used his physical strength to rip a star apart and destroy it with a SINGLE motion. does glad's planet feat top drax's STELLAR feat (and we know stars are hundreds or even thousands of times more massive than even the largest planets). i'm just trying to get a clearer picture of your thoughts. can't wait for the reply.
Originally posted by carver9
Even if someone showed Leo a scan of this...he will find some kind of way to down play it. Waste of time. If you don't believe this...visit the Gladiator respect thread...Leo had a lot to say about Gladiator there and one of the things is "he doesn't like the character".
Given your own level of bias against these characters, I'd be very careful about accusing others of it, tbh.
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Even if Gladiator is given the benefit of the doubt, and we say that the planet he destroyed is Earth sized, that's still not the best strength feat in comics, and as powerful as he is, for every good feat he has, the likes of Superman and Thor tend to have better ones.
Originally posted by carver9Seriously dude what do you see in Gladiator
Even if someone showed Leo a scan of this...he will find some kind of way to down play it. Waste of time. If you don't believe this...visit the Gladiator respect thread...Leo had a lot to say about Gladiator there and one of the things is "he doesn't like the character".
Originally posted by -Pr-
Given your own level of bias against these characters, I'd be very careful about accusing others of it, tbh.--
Even if Gladiator is given the benefit of the doubt, and we say that the planet he destroyed is Earth sized, that's still not the best strength feat in comics, and as powerful as he is, for every good feat he has, the likes of Superman and Thor tend to have better ones.
I rarely if ever bring up the planetary fts. Not one of the reasons why I consider Gladiator a beast.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I wasn't talking about you, but please, continue, tell us why you think he's above guys like Superman and Thor.
I have been convinced that he isn't above Supes and Thor a long time ago. The only thing that I dispute against you about the character is my thoughts on him taking a majority against Supes.