Originally posted by quanchi112
Why ? This is about Superman losing it at Lois' death. You're right totally irrelevant to the thread. Laughs.
Ending Battle is also about how Superman would react to Lois's death. And was more true to the character, imo.
But that's neither here nor there: The Wonder Woman/Superman fight in Sacrifice was poorly written, imo. I do think she can compete with him, but not like it happened in that story. Simple as that.
Originally posted by -Pr-That doesn't mean the comic doesn't count. He can have his opinion as I have my opinion or anyone can but according to this writer this is how Superman reacted in this situation. It's canon. My point was it's canon and someone's disagreement doesn't change that.
His interpretation is as valid as yours. Possibly more-so given your record.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn't mean the comic doesn't count. He can have his opinion as I have my opinion or anyone can but according to this writer this is how Superman reacted in this situation. It's canon. My point was it's canon and someone's disagreement doesn't change that.
The writer said that he was out of his mind with grief; that he wasn't fighting smart, and that he was nowhere near as effective as he'd usually be.
What about cdtm's post contradicts that?
Originally posted by cdtmPoorly written is your opinion which doesn't change what was written. Anyone can dismiss anything by saying poorly written.
Ending Battle is also about how Superman would react to Lois's death. And was more true to the character, imo.But that's neither here nor there: The Wonder Woman/Superman fight in Sacrifice was poorly written, imo. I do think she can compete with him, but not like it happened in that story. Simple as that.
Originally posted by -Pr-I think seeing Lois die would kind of do that to him. Do you think based off of Superman comics he'd fight intelligently and not be grieving over Lois' rape and death right in front of him ?
The writer said that he was out of his mind with grief; that he wasn't fighting smart, and that he was nowhere near as effective as he'd usually be.What about cdtm's post contradicts that?
Cdmt's post is subjective. He might not like what was written but he has to be objective about it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Poorly written is your opinion which doesn't change what was written. Anyone can dismiss anything by saying poorly written.I think seeing Lois die would kind of do that to him. Do you think based off of Superman comics he'd fight intelligently and not be grieving over Lois' rape and death right in front of him ?
Cdmt's post is subjective. He might not like what was written but he has to be objective about it.
Ending Battle is more consistent to the character than Sacrifice was, but then again, he was mind-controlled during Sacrifice, so it can't really be used as evidence anyway.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you think if he saw Lois raped/killed he'd fight intelligently and not be grief stricken ?
He was made to believe Lois died during Ending Battle, and he wouldn't kill because iirc, he didn't want to insult her memory. Superman is actually pretty solid emotionally. Bruce is his best friend, but he didn't fall apart during FC, did he.
He was mind-controlled AND shown Lois die during Sacrifice, so his reaction isn't going to be that extreme. Probably going to be somewhere in the middle tbh.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
My mind is drawing a blank here. When did this happen?I'm going to blame this lapse in memory on lack of sleep, I've been up for like 21 hours.
Manchester Black showed him Lois dying to try to get him to kill him, but Superman refused.
Originally posted by -Pr-Ah ok. I honestly see him all over the map seeing her raped and killed. But him refusing to kill I can totally see him doing.
He was made to believe Lois died during Ending Battle, and he wouldn't kill because iirc, he didn't want to insult her memory. Superman is actually pretty solid emotionally. Bruce is his best friend, but he didn't fall apart during FC, did he.He was mind-controlled AND shown Lois die during Sacrifice, so his reaction isn't going to be that extreme. Probably going to be somewhere in the middle tbh.
Manchester Black showed him Lois dying to try to get him to kill him, but Superman refused.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Either way, a Superman that's emotionally compromised isn't as effective as he could be.
And while the same could be said of Thor...
All Starscream said, is Asgard gets wrecked and Odin dies. If Thor doesn't think he slaughtered the Enchantress and Sif too, somehow I doubt seeing his arsehole father out of the picture again will have as much of an impact. 😈
Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you favor Thor here ?
Yes, as he's not going to be as angry as Superman would be, I think.
Originally posted by cdtm
And while the same could be said of Thor...All Starscream said, is Asgard gets wrecked and Odin dies. If Thor doesn't think he slaughtered the Enchantress and Sif too, somehow I doubt seeing his arsehole father out of the picture again will have as much of an impact. 😈
Pretty much.
I think regardless of how angry superman is, he is still very much in control. This is why he never crosses the line of killing someone.
His fight with khyber and a more recent example in DCU Online Legends #15. He accidentally kills Lois because of what Lex and Brainiac have done, sure it p!sses him off royally, but he doesn't kill Lex eventhough he had his hands around his throat. He then goes on a rampage and attacks Brainiac directly and kills him, brainiac turns out to be a clone robot. FS, WW are guessing if sups knew this all along, which he does. During the entire comic, supes was shown to be thinking 2 steps ahead of everyone else and self bfr's himself so that he can come back and beat the sh!t out of brainiac near the end of this arc.
Originally posted by Digi
I thought it was a new power in the reboot. There was some vomit repression involved.
Ah right is it something he does more often and with greater ease since the reboot?
Still I doubt that's all it take to defeat Thor. If it is then Martian Manhunter, Silver Surfer, The Flash and The Vision could all rip Thor's heart out like that..
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not to mention he can Thor Mjolnir and cause it to home in on a target.
Saved me writing that
Originally posted by Starscream M
if we play the could game, then superman can just blast thor's face with HV and blind or kill him instantly
Assuming Mjolnir does not absorb the blast..
Oh and what would a Godly Lightning blast to Supes eyes do I wonder??
Originally posted by DARTH POWERSuperman can blitz Thor before he whirls and throws the hammer. If Thor does manage to throw the hammer to home in then Superman rocks him hard (releasing the home) and then combos him to death. Or Superman can just grab Thor at the last minute and let the hammer hit him.Saved me writing that
He was referring to when Thor is trying to attack with Mjolnir. He can't defend and attack at the same time.Assuming Mjolnir does not absorb the blast..
It won't hit Supes since Supes will be hitting Thor first, becoming intangible, or simply avoiding the lightning by moving out of the way.Oh and what would a Godly Lightning blast to Supes eyes do I wonder??