Superman vs Thor: EXTREME RAGE EDITION

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can blitz Thor before he whirls and throws the hammer. If Thor does manage to throw the hammer to home in then Superman rocks him hard (releasing the home) and then combos him to death. Or Superman can just grab Thor at the last minute and let the hammer hit him.

You realise even when he whirls Mjolnir, he does not just have to stand there doing nothing.. He can whirl Mjolnir while shooting out Powerful Omnidirectional blasts, before he homes Mjolnir on Superman at which point Mjolnir will rock Supes hard, and possibly bring him close to death 😛

Originally posted by h1a8
He was referring to when Thor is trying to attack with Mjolnir. He can't defend and attack at the same time.

In that case nor can Superman.

Originally posted by h1a8
It won't hit Supes since Supes will be hitting Thor first, becoming intangible, or simply avoiding the lightning by moving out of the way.

You mean It MIGHT not hit Supes, just like Mjolnir MIGHT very well absorb every bit of Heat Vision Supes shoots at him, and MIGHT even shoot Supes Heat Vision back towards Supes multiplied 100 times in power, and MIGHT even add a Blast of Anti-Force on top, and MIGHT even add the Weather of the entire planet attacking Supes all at once.

Sound a bit over the top?? Well he's done all this once. Against Thanos.

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Thor actually has a feat that combines nearly all of his potent powers in an overwhelming assault both defensive/offensive. What Superman feat is being referenced here again? Barely beating his first Imperiex probe or being no-sold by Doomsday Rex before Doomsday Rex inexplicably transformed into a wuss?

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can blitz Thor before he whirls and throws the hammer.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You realise even when he whirls Mjolnir, he does not just have to stand there doing nothing.. He can whirl Mjolnir while shooting out Powerful Omnidirectional blasts, before he homes Mjolnir on Superman at which point Mjolnir will rock Supes hard, and possibly bring him close to death 😛

In that case nor can Superman.

You mean It MIGHT not hit Supes, just like Mjolnir MIGHT very well absorb every bit of Heat Vision Supes shoots at him, and MIGHT even shoot Supes Heat Vision back towards Supes multiplied 100 times in power, and MIGHT even add a Blast of Anti-Force on top, and MIGHT even add the Weather of the entire planet attacking Supes all at once.

Sound a bit over the top?? Well he's done all this once. Against Thanos.

This thread is stupid since Supes can make big movements (move more than 6ft) before Thor can make small movements (move 1 inch). There is no defense for Thor here.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
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Thor actually has a feat that combines nearly all of his potent powers in an overwhelming assault both defensive/offensive. What Superman feat is being referenced here again? Barely beating his first Imperiex probe or being no-sold by Doomsday Rex before Doomsday Rex inexplicably transformed into a wuss?

Thor doesn't need to whirl or throw his hammer to shoot a personal Godblast from his own person. I believe this is the true trump card even more than Mjolnir (which he can control remotely btw -- it doesn't have to be thrown/swung).

Originally posted by h1a8
Take a pick. Doesn't matter as Superman is far faster than Thor and can vibrate through or evade attacks.

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course Thor doesn't need to whirl the hammer for a Godblast. I was referring to him throwing the hammer at super speeds or slam hitting with mega force. But the Godblast would be the worst thing Thor could do. Superman easily avoids it and hammers Thor hard or Superman just pops Thor before he can form the action of doing it. Thor must throw Mjolnir in order for him to remote control it. Plus Thor can't remote control Mjolnir if he is incoherent (getting rocked and koed). Plus Supes can rock Thor the moment it's out of his hand. Plus Supes can grab Thor at superspeed and allow Mjolnir to strike Thor in the back of the head at the last minute. Superman is just too fast for Thor.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Then Superman can keep himself perpetually intangible as Thor floods his immediate area with magical lightning. I suppose Superman BFRs himself into non-combat.

It's an AoE attack when projected from his body. Superman would get destroyed like Durok did (moreso since Superman is actually vulnerable to magic) if he got anywhere near it.

Thor can remote control Mjolnir if Superman tries to play keep away and if he gets close, Superman gets incinerated.

Therefore, Superman would get hit by Mjolnir or Godblastor AoE lightning no matter what. His only chance is to keep himself intangible against everything. So Thor wins via Superman vibrating himself into perpetual non-combat otherwise Superman straight-up loses. Thor has just too many options against Superman.

Originally posted by h1a8
Actually Supes can pop Thor before this happens or simply use HV to prevent it. Also Thor doesn't really have omnidirectional blasts since there is space between the lightning in which to operate in. Also, the attack has a nice safety area, which lies immediately behind Thor. Superman can easily get there and go to town on Thor if he decides to let Thor pull it off.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor can't AOE a godblast from his body.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor can't AOE a godblast from his body and nor can he emit it before Superman pops him. Thor would be literally almost a statue to Superman.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor doesn't have ANY options against Superman. He is too slow. He can't AOE a godblast from his body nor can he pull it off before Supes hits him or HV him.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Sure he could. Thor's reacted faster than thought. You're mistaken. Thor does have omnidirectional blasts. He's done it on-panel. And Superman's HV is useless since Mjolnir has drawn energy into it (Thor doesn't have to manually block energy attacks with it to absorb it). Yes. He can. He's done it on-panel. Yes. He can. He's done it on-panel. Thor has FTL reflexes and has reacted faster than thought. Superman might be also but he's not Flash. Like I said, Superman must stay intangible to avoid being hit by a remote controlled Mjolnir that travels million times FTL, or to avoid being hit by perpetual AoE magical lightning or to avoid being incinerated by an omnidirectional magical Godblast. And Superman's HV is worthless as it would just get absorbed by Mjolnir and likely be projected back at him a hundred-fold.

If h1 doesn't like it, it never happened. And I suspect he isn't too fond of everything you said

^ Does that mean if he doesn't like me, I never existed?

You'd better hope to keep on his good side is all I'm saying

Is ODG serious in lowballing superman and highballing thor or is he just baiting h1a8? If we are going cbr route then superman sings thor out of existance in the first nanosecond. Lulz at Thor's FTL reflexes, ODG is obviously basing this on Thor-rachel fight. Classic quicksilver has done the same feat against Exodus in Blood-ties. If we are basing this on one high end feat only, Kal has reflexes "nearly" as fast as professor zoom.

Superman puts Thor in a coma.

Also, the Superfans need to quit with the speed blitz shit.

Thor Wins

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course he must stand there. He never did anything different in comics. He can't whirl Mjolnir while shooting out omnidirectional blasts because he hasn't in comics.

Actually he's shot Lightning blasts without even using Mjolnir. Read more Thor comics.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman will lay Thor the moment Thor releases Mjolnir in a throw. Also Superman can grab Thor with superspeed and let Mjlonir hit him instead.

Superman will be too busy dodging omnidirectional blasts, and fighting off a thousand thousand hurricanes. How fast is Supes really gna move through a thousand thousand hurricanes, and with godly lightning attacking him from all directions.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can defend and attack at the same time. He can evade and blast with HV or freeze breath.

Thor can defend and attack at the same time. He can strike Superman with multiple lightning blasts, while using a thousand thousand hurricanes to stop Superman getting close to him, while Mjolnir can absorb any heat vision Superman dishes out.

Originally posted by h1a8
Supes can hit Thor with the HV without him blocking it.

Not really... He might get the odd 1 second shot in, but wnt get the sustained blast he needs without Mjolnir blocking it.

Originally posted by h1a8
All Supes have to do is either get within 5 feet of Thor and then use it (Thor hasn't proven to have light speed reflexes from 5ft but only 30ft or more) or just reappear (speed move) behind Thor in a nanosecond and blast him or just simply multiple attack Thor (punch from all angles around Thor while blasting him with HV).

That's ridiculous. He has to prove he can react from 5 feet away? Well I dnt knw how many feet exactly but he was no where near 30 feet away when he deflected Gladiator's heat vision. The difference of 25 feet is not gna make a difference to something coming at the speed of light.

Originally posted by h1a8
Supes can even grab Thor's arm at superspeed and make Thor bash himself in the head with the hammer.

Lol. He has to overpower Thor's arm first. Oh and Thor can spin Mjolnir round faster than light, while blasting out lightning from it. That will make it much more difficult for Supes to attack him close range without getting whacked himself.

Thor can also use Mjolnir to spin himself round faster than light, again causing the same problem for Superman.

Originally posted by h1a8
This thread is stupid since Supes can make big movements (move more than 6ft) before Thor can make small movements (move 1 inch). There is no defense for Thor here.

Oh so now Superman is soooo much ahead of Thor that this is just a stupid thread?? Right.

Superman might very well get in the first attack, but its nothing Thor cant take. The guy has taken some serious beatings, by the Hulk, by Celestials, and by Frigging Odin himself.

Actually read some Thor before you call this a stupid thread.

Oh and if anything a blood lusted fight to the death between them is stupid because Thor has the means to kill Superman with his Godblast.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is ODG serious in lowballing superman and highballing thor or is he just baiting h1a8? If we are going cbr route then superman sings thor out of existance in the first nanosecond. Lulz at Thor's FTL reflexes, ODG is obviously basing this on Thor-rachel fight. Classic quicksilver has done the same feat against Exodus in Blood-ties. If we are basing this on one high end feat only, Kal has reflexes "nearly" as fast as professor zoom.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is ODG serious in lowballing superman and highballing thor or is he just baiting h1a8? If we are going cbr route then superman sings thor out of existance in the first nanosecond. Lulz at Thor's FTL reflexes, ODG is obviously basing this on Thor-rachel fight. Classic quicksilver has done the same feat against Exodus in Blood-ties. If we are basing this on one high end feat only, Kal has reflexes "nearly" as fast as professor zoom.

If you really are a fan of Kal-El, then you'd know that h1's view is completely off base and based on nothing outside of arbitrary numbers and ignoring what he doesn't like in comics, assuming he read them to begin with.

We already know he doesn't read Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is ODG serious in lowballing superman and highballing thor or is he just baiting h1a8? If we are going cbr route then superman sings thor out of existance in the first nanosecond. Lulz at Thor's FTL reflexes, ODG is obviously basing this on Thor-rachel fight. Classic quicksilver has done the same feat against Exodus in Blood-ties. If we are basing this on one high end feat only, Kal has reflexes "nearly" as fast as professor zoom.

But I get it, apparently, you don't like taking Thor's feats at face value, so they never happened. And of course, the only way you will take Thor's feats at face value is if you're permitted to aggrandize and overgeneralize Superman's feats so Superman still wins. We get it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or all the other time he deals with light speed attacks. We'll just pretend they never happened. BTW, Quicksilver got wrecked by Exodus in Bloodties via his telepathy. Way to sabotage yourself. As far as I've seen, Superman's so far beneath Flash and Zoom in speed that any comparisons are awful. Superman's best combat speed feats (of which there are more than a few) put him at light speed and above and permit him to fight like a superspeedster (not Flash/Zoom level, mind you). Thor's best reflex speed feats (of which there are a few) put him at light speed and above and permit him to fight off superspeedsters (which he's done several times).

But I get it, apparently, you don't like taking Thor's feats at face value, so they never happened. And of course, the only way you will take Thor's feats at face value is if you're permitted to aggrandize and overgeneralize Superman's feats so Superman still wins. We get it.

thor recently claimed logan was too fast for him...superman would never say a street leveler is too fast for him.

Originally posted by Starscream M
thor's speed feats defy the nature of the character...whereas superman's support it

thor recently claimed logan was too fast for him...superman would never say a street leveler is too fast for him.

Originally posted by Starscream M
thor's speed feats defy the nature of the character...whereas superman's support it

thor recently claimed logan was too fast for him...superman would never say a street leveler is too fast for him.

Thor mentioning that Wolverine is faster than he thought is worth about as much as Diana being impressed with Deathstroke. Only difference is, Superman fanboys aren't threatened by Wonder Woman as much as they are by Thor. So they don't keep bringing up the same level of lowball crap when it comes to her.

Originally posted by Starscream M
thor's speed feats defy the nature of the character...whereas superman's support it

thor recently claimed logan was too fast for him...superman would never say a street leveler is too fast for him.

...not really?

Thor's also handled people with speed far faster than Wolverine and has done so consistently. Does that showing invalidate all the other ones because of it being recent? Or does it invalidate his other showings because it was Wolverine?

And yeah, Superman complained about Deathstroke's speed before. As has Wonder Woman. Pretty sure Batgod's speed was impressive to either of them at one point or another, too.

PIS happens when you're a big herald type facing a street or meta for the sake of the plot.