Superman vs Thor: EXTREME RAGE EDITION

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Actually he's shot Lightning blasts without even using Mjolnir. Read more Thor comics.
This has nothing to do with my post. My argument still stands. Also, You assumed I didn't know Thor has a feat of lightning with the hammer. You know what happens when you assume right?

Superman will be too busy dodging omnidirectional blasts, and fighting off a thousand thousand hurricanes. How fast is Supes really gna move through a thousand thousand hurricanes, and with godly lightning attacking him from all directions.

Thor can't pull off an omnidirectional blast fast enough. Superman is much faster. A thousand hurricanes isn't even a tiny breeze to Superman. He's flown through stuff astronomically more tougher than that. Plus Supes can weave through the lightning and pop Thor (assuming Supes sit there and let Thor make the first action).

Thor can defend and attack at the same time. He can strike Superman with multiple lightning blasts, while using a thousand thousand hurricanes to stop Superman getting close to him, while Mjolnir can absorb any heat vision Superman dishes out.

How can Thor do this if Superman beats him to the punch? Or just simply dodges and hammers Thor from behind? Mjolnir can absorb if Thor doesn't block it. And Thor is not blocking HV from 5ft away or from behind.

Not really... He might get the odd 1 second shot in, but wnt get the sustained blast he needs without Mjolnir blocking it.

The HV at it's best can go right through Thor like he is made of water. Non holding back HV can go through Superman and other kryptonians like they are made of water. Thor would be lucky as hell to live through a CIS of blast of HV.

That's ridiculous. He has to prove he can react from 5 feet away? Well I dnt knw how many feet exactly but he was no where near 30 feet away when he deflected Gladiator's heat vision. The difference of 25 feet is not gna make a difference to something coming at the speed of light.

If I can hit a 90mph baseball from 60ft away then that doesn't prove I can do so from 5ft away does it? Also it doesn't prove that I can hit 2 or more coming at me from 5ft away either.

Lol. He has to overpower Thor's arm first. Oh and Thor can spin Mjolnir round faster than light, while blasting out lightning from it. That will make it much more difficult for Supes to attack him close range without getting whacked himself.

By feats Supes is a lot stronger than Thor. Plus being much faster Supes can bash Thor before Thor knows what's going on to try to fight it. Again it takes time for Thor to swing the hammer faster than light. There is on panel evidence of it and no on panel evidence of the contrary. Thor can't shoot blasts out of the hammer at enemies while spinning the hammer. Making stuff up are we?

Thor can also use Mjolnir to spin himself round faster than light, again causing the same problem for Superman.

After say several seconds. But that is dumb anyway since Thor's head and body is still exposed.

Oh so now Superman is soooo much ahead of Thor that this is just a stupid thread?? Right.

IMO yes. Speed kills.

Superman might very well get in the first attack, but its nothing Thor cant take. The guy has taken some serious beatings, by the Hulk, by Celestials, and by Frigging Odin himself.

Taking is irrelevant. The first attack will rock Thor and prevent him from making action. Sure he might survive or not be koed after the first blow if that is what you mean. But since Thor would be momentarily stunned then Superman will continue the onslaught until Thor is koed. Combo to ko anyone?

Actually read some Thor before you call this a stupid thread.

I read plenty of Thor to no he's nowhere close in Superman's league in speed.

Oh and if anything a blood lusted fight to the death between them is stupid because Thor has the means to kill Superman with his Godblast.

Thor can't get the godblast out if Superman attacks first. Also Superman can simply evade it and attack Thor from behind.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why does H1n8 make such definitive statements as if he knows what his talking about?

A glance at a respect thread will prove you wrong, I have no idea why ODG has humored you as much as he has.

I've seen Thor's respect thread and don't remember seeing a AOE godblast from Thor's body.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

A glance at a respect thread will prove you wrong, I have no idea why ODG has humored you as much as he has.
He likes playing with his food.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He's not saying Thor is a speedster or is in the same speed department as Superman.

He's saying that Thor has reflexes and feats to suggest him hitting Superman, which he does.

There's nothing crazy about that. Fact of the matter is that Superman isn't going to be an touchable blur to Thor, which is what some people, like h1, think.

Supes just needs to be an untouchable blur the first nanosecond until Supes hits Thor first. Then it is combo to ko.

Originally posted by h1a8
I've seen Thor's respect thread and don't remember seeing a AOE godblast from Thor's body.

You should look at it again (Depending on the area of effect).

Also, that's not the only thing you're misinformed about (Mjolnir's flight speed, energy absorption, omni-directional blasts etc.) I'd post scans to shut you up but ODG wants to have his fun I guess, so I'll just watch.

What stands out the most to me personally is that you make such definitive statements as if you've read everything there is to read.

^H1a8 is a hopeless case.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why does H1n8 make such definitive statements as if he knows what his talking about?

A glance at a respect thread will prove you wrong, I have no idea why ODG has humored you as much as he has.

You know all this guy cares about is three scans. Three scans being all, the complete, the totality of what he knows about a character for him to come into a thread and to start educating people.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You should look at it again (Depending on the area of effect).

Also, that's not the only thing you're misinformed about (Mjolnir's flight speed, energy absorption, omni-directional blasts etc.) I'd post scans to shut you up but ODG wants to have his fun I guess, so I'll just watch.

What stands out the most to me personally is that you make such definitive statements as if you've read everything there is to read.

You right I shouldn't make definite statements about non PIS things if I haven't read everything. I'm not misinformed though. I know more about Thor than the average comic book reader. Thor's omnidirectional blasts are not omnidirectional. Look at the scans again.

If a character has no showings for a pro but showings for a con then the con exist and the pro doesn't.

I really want to see Thor shooting a AOE godblast from his body though. It still doesn't mean he will win if he can since speed of getting it out is still important.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You know me better than that to categorize with h1a8 and starscream, darth.sadwalk

Lol Dude dnt wrry I wouldn't put you with them

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor Omnidirectional blasts aren't purely omnidirectional. Look at the scans again and you will see spaces between the blast.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Mjolnir's not limited to single directional blasts. Here, Thor uses it to project an omni-directional blast throwing both Adam Warlock and Silver Surfer for a loop in Infinity Watch #169:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir169-OmniBlastInfinityWat.jpg

You're right h1a8. Im sure Supes could fit in one of those gaps!

Originally posted by abhilegend
You know me better than that to categorize with h1a8 and starscream, darth.sadwalk

Originally posted by h1a8
You right I shouldn't make definite statements about non PIS things if I haven't read everything. I'm not misinformed though. I know more about Thor than the average comic book reader. Thor's omnidirectional blasts are not omnidirectional. Look at the scans again.

If a character has no showings for a pro but showings for a con then the con exist and the pro doesn't.

I really want to see Thor shooting a AOE godblast from his body though. It still doesn't mean he will win if he can since speed of getting it out is still important.

God Blast:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor58.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor59.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor60.jpg

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMidgardSerpent17.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMidgardSerpent18.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMidgardSerpent19.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMidgardSerpent20.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMidgardSerpent21.jpg

I personally don't think the above are God Blasts but ODG might have different ideas.

Omni-directonal energy blasts:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/OmniLightning.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DestroysArmada2.jpg

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/OmniLightning4.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer8.jpg

Energy absorption:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/NullBombAbsorb.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight7.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbsKangEnergy1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbsKangEnergy2.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbsKangEnergy3.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbThanosEnergy1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbThanosEnergy2.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/ThorvsGlory7.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/ThorvsGlory8.jpg

Mjolnir's flight speed (No spinning):
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight3.jpg

So we've established that:
- Thor can create omni-directional energy blasts. Even a type of God Blast (If you want to call it that) in such a manner.

- Mjolnir can draw energy into itself. For the record, it's energy manipulation abilities are far greater than simple absorption, it has even manipulated solar energy directly from the Sun itself:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mjolnir133.jpg

Not sure if this pure solar radiation but whatever:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsThermalMan.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsThermalMan2-1.jpg

- Mjolnir can reach faster than light speeds instantaneously.

In conclusion, you were wrong about almost everything.

Sometimes I forget just how many times Thor has pulled random shit out of his ass when the need calls for it.

Yea, being a magical deity and all has allowed him to whip out the most random shit when the occasion calls for it.

Even under Fraction who portrays him mostly as a hammer wielding thug, it hasn't been forgotten.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Defend herself against his speed time and time again. The problem is he's fast enough to tag her and his power is greater than hers along with his durability.

She relies on her skill and reflexes far more often than Superman who is durable enough to trade blows or tank attacks. This is how these characters are generally portrayed. Superman's no slouch in terms of reflexes it's just WW is slightly better.

Based on what?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
God Blast:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor58.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor59.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor60.jpg
That was a lightning bolt from the sky and totally irrelevant.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMidgardSerpent17.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMidgardSerpent18.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMidgardSerpent19.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMidgardSerpent20.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMidgardSerpent21.jpg

Again, not a god blast or an omnidirectional blast.

I personally don't think the above are God Blasts but ODG might have different ideas.

Omni-directonal energy blasts:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/OmniLightning.jpg

Doesn't look canon. Also seems it isn't the god blast either.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DestroysArmada2.jpg

Again not omnidirectional.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/OmniLightning4.jpg
That might be a winner there. But can we really tell what happened? Seems like a bolt coming from up top. I give him that one though. But still no godblast.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer8.jpg

Energy absorption:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/NullBombAbsorb.jpg
[/QUOTEI never argued that Thor can't absorb energy. My point is that he can't absorb a beam unless he blocks it with the hammer. [quote]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight7.jpg

This proves my point. He must block the beam. If Thor didn't hold the hammer towards the incoming beam then he wouldn't be able to absorb it.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbsKangEnergy1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbsKangEnergy2.jpg

Irrelevant to my posts and this fight.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbsKangEnergy3.jpg

Again my point is still valid.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbThanosEnergy1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbThanosEnergy2.jpg

My point again.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/ThorvsGlory7.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/ThorvsGlory8.jpg

Again my point.

Mjolnir's flight speed (No spinning):
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight3.jpg

Doesn't show us how much time he needed to get into space. The scan makes some reference of traveling through both time and space. Did he open a portal? Doesn't even mention the time frame in which Thor didn't anything. My point whas that Thor needs to spin the hammer for a moment in order to throw it at great speed. Thor can fly at lightspeed and beyond it just takes him time to accelerate to that speed. He can't achieve lightspeed from rest just like that.

So we've established that:
- Thor can create omni-directional energy blasts. Even a type of God Blast (If you want to call it that) in such a manner.

Nothing shown was a godblast. Two scans actually show omni-directional blasts. One being not canon and the other is still iffy as to what happened. But what the hell I will give him it. But now you have to contend with:

1. Superman hitting Thor before it happens.
2. Superman withstanding it (it's not a Godblast) like he has withstood other mega magic attacks (not without pain though) in order to HV through Thor.
3. Superman becoming intangible until Thor tires. Yes there is evidence that the godblast tires Thor.

- Mjolnir can draw energy into itself. For the record, it's energy manipulation abilities are far greater than simple absorption, it has even manipulated solar energy directly from the Sun itself:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mjolnir133.jpg

Not sure if this pure solar radiation but whatever:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsThermalMan.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsThermalMan2-1.jpg

Irrelevant to this fight.

- Mjolnir can reach faster than light speeds instantaneously.

In conclusion, you were wrong about almost everything.

That is a clear lie as Mjolnir can't reach light speed instantaneous. Also I'm not sure it can reach bullet speed instantly.
Thor and the hammer needs time to build to the necessary speed.

And I'm not wrong about anything.
1. I didn't see Thor godblast AOE from his body
2. I didn't see Mjolnir absorb beams when Thor wasn't pointing the hammer towards the beam.
3. I didn't see Mjolnir nor Thor with Mjolnir achieve light speed instantly.
4. I didn't see Thor react to light speed attacks from 5ft away or deal with multiple light speed attacks at once.

My points still stand.

facepalm

H1 can tell if something's canon just by the art.

What a dreamboat

h1a8, you're really starting to stretch the limitations of the slack you've been given, tbh.

Originally posted by -Pr-
h1a8, you're really starting to stretch the limitations of the slack you've been given, tbh.

Because I said the one scan wasn't canon? Well I accepted the feat regardless. ODG said Thor can godblast from his body in AOE form. No one proved it.