Thanos vs. Sentry/Void (all out)

I basically didn't copy your first wall of text, since there was pretty much bullshit in it. At first you start talking about comic book characters and their in character behaving and then you ... *sigh* once again - start talking about boxers and other people who are into sports.

What's up with that actually? I stopped reading there, since that doesn't make any sense at all.
However. The forum rule "in charater" doesn't depower characters on a constant basis like you're trying to do it to the Sentry.

In character means, that if someone opens a "Batman VS Joker", or "Superman VS Lex Luthor" thread - that it's obvious that it would be out of character for Batman to snap Joker's neck and end the fight in 2 seconds, just the way it would be out of character for Superman to pierce through Luthor's body with his heat vision.

That is out of character.
Sentry not using a BFR to get rid of WW Hulk as fast as possible. That is writing introduced stupidity / plot introduced stupidity, what ever you want and that's not the way we debate about forum battles. If a character has an advantage over the other and there are no "in character issues" in that one, then that character will also use his advantages to win.

Superman would speedblitz Luthor into the next prison, before Luthor could even react to it, and Batman is going to outskill Joker and break his arms if neccessary, before Joker manages to do something.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Nova is weak now? Sorry he's not. Mar-vell tossing him around like a weak feeb is important because Thanos tossed him around like a weak feeb in return. You may not like it, but it illustrates a clear strength superiority that Thanos has over virtually any herald. Terrax has even fewer strength showings than Nova, yet I'm suppose to be impressed with Sentry beating one of the biggest herald jobbers in history, and yet not impressed by Thanos treating Mar-vell like a flea? I get it, you're trying to be funny right? I'm still waiting to see someone of note that Sentry overpowered that puts him above thanos. I know you don't have anybody, but it amuses me to see you try.

*Sigh* ... No, compared with other top tier power houses Nova lacks the physical strenght to keep up with them. Read about the character and don't assume ridiculous things.

And no, Lord Mar-Vell is not special, because he overpowered Nova and no, Thanos is not special because he overpowered Lord Mar-Vell. Nova is physically weaker then the Sentry and the Thor, just the way Lord Mar-Vell is physically weaker then Thanos and Lord Mar-Vell has also no other strenght feats besides taking down Nova, so right now you're overhyping characters with the lack of feats so much to make Thanos shine.

This thread is full of examples where I state how strong the Sentry actually is and this board has also an awesome Sentry respect thread, which show many of his strenght feats.

If you would actually bother to read through few of the posts, then you would now it but this is basically now the reason why I called you an idiotic moron in the first place, since everything you done was to come in into this thread and ask me for my - already well explained - opinion. And I'm sure that this is not the last time I said this in this response.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Can I please see the narration that Sentry was depowered against WWH/Savage hulk? I keep seeing you say that, I want to see the narration that states it. I remember clear narration that said Sentry was off a bit, but once he realized he had to step up to face WWH and he was the only hope... He went there just fine and at full power. If you have narration that states otherwise.. post it. If not, gtfo with that bs.

Oh hey look, there we are already.
I already posted everything of it. Everything where stands, that Sentry's power level scales with his mental stability. If he is unstable, he is weak and he was damn unstable during his fight with WW Hulk.

How about you stop being an idiot and read through this thread? You don't have a clue about the Sentry and you think you can actually debate about the character? Pathetic.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Regardless, the point is.. Hulk is stronger than Sentry, and Thanos easily overpowered him and mocked his strength. Sentry NEVER did any such thing to Hulk. He never overpowered him WITH STRENGTH only. Taking some punches and dealing some punches back isn't the same, not even close, to what Thanos did. Thanos overpowered and MOCKED the strength of TWO PEOPLE KNOW FOR THEIR STRENGTH. "You call yourselves strong, I'm strength personified" Actions and narration that Marvel made clear who was the strongest in that field. This is something hasn't nor can match.

How much stronger Hulk was, was already shown ... During his Savage mode he attacked Sentry, who didn't even flinch. He didn't even flinch, do you understand that?
The same goes for the Thing. He too attacked Sentry and he didn't even flinch.

You're trying to tell me that Hulk was also attacked Thanos, yet you fail so often to mention that it was Professor Hulk, one of Hulk weakest incarnations and even that incarnation was pushing Thanos around, while an even stronger version of Hulk was not able to move Sentry at all.
And one of the most powerful Hulk versions got stalemated by Sentry, who was in a weak condition.

So no, Thanos is not stronger than the Sentry.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
People have BFR'd Sentry because he can be tossed away like a flea.. Anti-Man punked Sentry with strength. NOBODY.. I repeat... NOBODY has overpowered Thanos in such ways. In his entire history of facing people who strength feats that sh1t all over Sentry.. Thor, Herc, Hulk, Drax etc etc.. not one of them has overpowered thanos, and in fact, it has been Thanos who has overpowered them with strength.

People BFR'd the Sentry because he lacked the combat experience. When they were able to tag him, they were sometimes able to BFR him. When he was ready for the punches and clearly willing to take them, no one BFR'd him, not even WW Hulk.

So there goes your argument against Sentry.
Additionally to that Thanos faced weaker versions of the characters Sentry faced. Additionally to that Thanos never faced as strong people as for example Sentry or Blue Marvel, hell Thanos didn't even face Hulk versions which were as strong as WW Hulk and you constantly keep talking about Thanos overwhelming, even though there wuoldn't be any huge difference between Professor Hulk and She Hulk, lol!

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He would eat eery single one of them... WTF lol. You mean he could teleport out of the way of something much slower than a point blank STRAIGHT blast from Surfer or Maker but not do so against a slower AOE attack? I'm convinced you're trying to be funny now. BTW, for your reference the blast that Sentry CAN'T and never has matched... Killing a High Herald in Warlock WITH the Soul Gem was such an attack.. a AOE one.

I'm usually a very funny guy, but now I'm serious, so stop bringing that up. It's a waste of space.

However. The Maker attacked Thanos with an AOE. The explosion was nothing special. Didn't even look like it was bigger then a nuke, but it hit Thanos and he was lying around for a whole while. Sentry is faster than the Maker and Sentry's damage output is far more insane, since a nuke is nothing compared with the destroying planets while holding back.
Thanos won't shrug that off and Thanos also won't escape from that, since he is simply way too slow.
Even if I would give him fairly good reflexes, which he does not have, since he was also not able to tag Captain Marvel, he would still not have the movement speed to compete with the Sentry.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What stronger opponents has Sentry faced again? Please list them for me

Read through the thread.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
you can't even list one striking feat that is above the ones I mentioned for Thanos, yet somehow, sentry holds the strikign power edge..LULZ

Read through the thread.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I'm now convinced you don't know about Thanos as a character. You do realize he can and HAS teleported just fine without tech right? Ya know, being an eternal and all, is kinda a perk that comes with it.

Didn't come with it, when he was attacked and tagged and tagged all over and again, and again, and again.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thanos does use Tech to teleport so he doesn't need to expend energy and his mind to do so. Make no mistake though, he has and can teleport under his own power. Sentry can teleport better WTF are you basing this on.. LULZ... Please cite for me the reasons Sentry can teleport better than Thanos again.

Sentry thinks and acts faster than Thanos. Way faster.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You keep missing the key point I was making... Sentry ISN'T blitzing Thanos. Thanos has dealt with blitzs before with ease.. See Fallen One and Gay as examples. He has teleported out of the way of blasts that move faster than Sentry.. See Surfer as examples. He's raised his shields or deflected blasts faster than sentry could move to attack thanos just fine.. See surfer and Maker as examples.

Dude, it's a freakin' difference if you react for a moment to someone speedblitzing you, if you have fairly good reflexes, but it's a whole another level if someone uses his speed during the entire fight and overpowers you thanks to the speed.

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That's the combat speed of your freakin' Thanos. And do you expect the Sentry, to get knocked out by being rammed against the ground? If you do, then jump out of the window.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
6. Matter Manipulation - Draw - I would concede that Sentry has one higher end showing that is better than anything Thanos has done. However, that one high end showing doesn't make up for his lack of other showings and Thanos matter manipulation a skrull who as you might know has total control of his molecular structure.
7. Durability - Thanos. First you concede Thanos is better in this area and now you call it a draw.. Nope it's not.
8. Telepathy - Thanos
9. Prep - Thanos
10. Tech - Thanos
11. H2h combat - Thanos
12. Stamina - Thanos
13. Intelligene and cunning - Thanos
14. Striking power - Thanos and easily.
15. Defense - Thanos easily. This is the kicker though... You listed a defense Sentry doesn't have but Thanos does... and go but Sentry could bypass this and get throw it. I disagree, but even so, that has NOTHING TO DO WITH SENTRY'S DEFENSIVE CAPABILITIES.. Ya know, the area we are discussing. Thanos easily here.

That's full of bullshit. Comparing a skrull to the Molecule Man who got owned by the Sentry, or even comparing a skrull to a god, who has by far the better durability and therefore should be harder to matter manipulate ... that's just stupid, especially that with the Molecule Man and Thanos.

Molecule Man would totally annihilate Thanos, since he is so much above him in terms of the power ranking, yet he got defeated by Voidsentry.

Everything else is non-sense, since it would not matter in a random encounter like the tech, or the stamina, aswell the intelligence.
Especially because Thanos would be way too slow to profit from all these things and that's the reason why I left them out in the first place.

If Thanos can't even tag the Sentry in combat, then he won't for sure have the time to come up with a prep-plan in the middle of the fight.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You do realize other much weaker than Sentry or Thanos have penetrated Doom's shields right? Doom's shields have low feats and they have high feats. Don't see there and list just the high feats while fogetting the low ones. Doom, like Thanos, can bring his big boy shields to a fight or his so so shields. That said, even Doom's higher end shields aren't better than Thanos.

Shows how much you know about Doctor Doom, who was always doing more then just well against the Silver Surfer. Doom's shields were always at their max.
You don't know crap about Doom. That guy is paranoid without an end. He wouldn't leave his castle without being prepared for Arishem to step on him and Doom would survive it, lol!

Besides that name me the instances where Doom's shields disappointed him, besides the Sentry instances, who simply broke through them.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Need I remind you, Thanos shields made a WELL FED Galactus comment (NEVER have I ever had to work so hard to pierce a mere forcefield) and it took so much energy to pierce he had to feed again. That showings blows Doom's out of the water against the same Galactus since the narration stated which was stronger. Thanos brought his big boy shields against a being stated to be multiple times more powerful than Galactus. His shields took a concentrated blasts from Omega for an extended period of time without breaking. Against Champion with the PG.. his shields took multiple punches from a being stronger than the Sentry WITH the PG. Point is, if Thanos brings his big boy shields... Sentry has very little hope of getting throw him in any kinda of timely matter if at all.

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If Sentry is pissed off, he makes the shields disappear thanks to his molecule manipulation, or he dissolves Thanos from the inside into oblivion.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
In conclusion, when we break down the categories... it's Thanos 11.. Sentry 2 (I'll even give him matter manipulation) and 3 draws. Damn Thanos wins even easier than I orginally thought.

Oh now you can think? How about you read through the thread and stop crying for already offered feats and statements?
Thanos has the prep-advatange. Give him days of prep and he will find a way to get rid of the Sentry for a while. In a random encounter Thanos is history, since he lacks the most important things to compete with the Sentry.
Strenght and speed and besides that, Sentry has so much more to deal with Thanos.

Originally posted by Enzeru
1. Never said that Sentry speedblitzed Thor into oblivion. I simply said that Sentry speedblitzed Thor in the midair, to take him far away from Osborn and Thor was not able to react to that.

2. Ares stuck the axe into Sentry's body, while Sentry grabbed him, instantly shed Ares' blood and started pushing him away. That was Ares' only action. He tried to fight back, but he got slaughthered, without being able to react to Sentry's attacks. Did you actually see the look on Thor's face while Voidsentry was squeezing the crap out of him? He had the exact same look on the face like Ares before Sentry ripped him apart. Thor was lucky that Osborn ordered Voidsentry to destroy Asgard and while Voidsentry was bullrushing through Asgard and taking the entire city down, Thor only managed to say: "No..." and raise his hammer-wielding arm, to do something against it, yet it was already waaaaaay too late.

2.Ares did fight back because he shoved the axe into him. Ares isn't anywhere near his league of power. Thor was stomped Ares as has WW Hulk. Ares isn't on these guys levels so acting like his death is really supposed to matter when discussing Thanos is quite ignorant. Yes, most heroes would be appalled to see a respected ally torn in half it's called compassion. Yes, the Void is too much for Thor because he's a lot more powerful and can reform. Thor can't. Thor still wasn't killed by the Void despite all this. The Sentry isn't capable of this kind of power and carnage.

Thanos is not faster then these characters and would have some serious problems with Sentry's speed.

Captain America? What? What? [/B]

I'm pretty sure that Loki would offer Thanos a run for his money. He would not win, but he wouldn't go down as fast as he did in his "fight" with the Void. The same applies for other characters, like Doctor Doom who was doing just fine against Silver Surfer and won most of their encounters, while Silver Surfer even stated, that they're equals, yet Doom was ALWAYS chanceless when it came to his fights with the Sentry.

Iron Man got tossed around and was pretty much chanceless, the way it's supposed to be, while I remember Iron Man doing better against Silver Surfer, then he did against Sentry, LOL![/B]

Surfer never went down to the Human Torch either. Doom usually steals his power and can't take him one on one in a fair fight.

Surfer isn't in the thread Thanos is. Thanos mauls the Surfer yet Iron Man defeats the Sentry and you are trying to lead me to believe he someone takes on Thanos. Laughable.

Iron Man exploited a way to get rid of the Sentry and it wasn't even Sentry's fault, but Reed Richards' since his firewalls of CLOC were bad, Tony hacked them and let CLOC tell Sentry about all the big ass catastrophes which were happening on the planet.
Sentry heard that millions of people were dying and he didn't know who to help at first.

That's not a weakness, it's the proof that Sentry is a great character who doesn't want to see himself as God who has to decide who lives and who dies and that he didn't know how to handle the situation, where he would have saved one million people, while one million other people would have died. [/B]

The Human Torch instance was a plot-device to remove the Sentry from the battlefield, so that the other tiny heroes could toy around. Judging by Sentry's power set and his power level he would have been able to solo everyone on the battlefield. [/B]

He was never even trying to seriously take Hercules down. But yeah, he got outskilled and that's the way it should be, because Hercules has centuries of fighting experience, while Sentry does not. Hercules also outskills Thor, but it doesn't mean that he is OVERALL more powerful then Thor.

Siege was full of good showings for Sentry. Don't know where your point is. [/B]

You didn't give me anything to work with. Everything you were doing from the very first beginning of this thread was lowballing Sentry because of the few bad showings he had, which are perfectly explainable by his mental issues, which he does not always have, yet you're trying to make it look that way.

Fact is that Thanos does not have the strenght and the speed feats to compete with the Sentry and strenght and speed are always important factors. Sentry has a higher energy output then Thanos. He has shown it during his fight with Photon. Sentry has also a lot of other gimmicks, which would come in handy and I adressed all of them more then once. It's just that you fail to accept them. [/B]

fact is Hercules does, Thor does, the Human Torch does, Iron Man does, WW Hulk does, Photon does, Thor does with Bob's permission. Conclusion Thanos does with extra power left over. Sentry's energy output can't even ko the WW Hulk let alone the Wb Hulk who seemed altogether on another level entirely.

Sentry never used his speed against Hercules, since he clearly wanted to talk it out. Sentry was speaking entire sentences while he was flying at Hercules. That is not fast, since Sentry already traveled from the orbit to the Earth during one single moment.

Thanos hit Marvel yes, when Marvel made the mistake and allowed Thanos to tag him. Otherwise Thanos got punched and punched and punched by Marvel, not able to block / dodge.

He does not have to defeat Thanos during one speedblitz. He would not be able to do something like that, but that's also not the point of the speed advantage.
Sentry is fast enough, so that Thanos would not really be able to tag him. Sentry is strong enough to harm Thanos. Combine Sentry's speed and his strenght and you have a lot more impact, since for example - boxers are often training their speed, because the speed inflicts much of the damage during a fight.
More speed, more impact damage, more overall damage.

What holds Sentry off from circeling the globe and bullrushing Thanos with all the added force? Nothing. [/B]

Sentry has exceptional travel speed but he doesn't use it effectively while in combat hence the references. I've gone over this a million times.

Thor tagged him, Herc tagged him, WW Hulk tagged him, Blue Marvel tagged him, Photon tagged him so in conclusion Thanos can tag him.

The fact it didn't work against Thor let alone Thanos. Cite an example in a comic quit making up your scenarios and acting as if they count as proof.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Thanos needs to say the word "Teleport". Until he has finished it, the Sentry has already won.

Sentry has far better speed showings then the Thor and WW Hulk instances.

Thor was chanceless during the entire battle, since he only managed to tag Sentry once with the Mjolnir BFR, which didn't do crap by the way. Ares also managed to tag Sentry once and then he died.[/B]

In his fight with WW Hulk Sentry was supporting WW Hulk, thanking him for the punches in the face, because he wanted the Hulk to stop him, since he knew that he started losing the control. He was not trying to dodge anything, so there goes your argument.

Read my posts, then you will come across his showings. [/B]

Thanos is smarter then the Sentry and he has the prep-advantage, if the OP gives him prep. You didn't give him prep, it's a random encounter and that one he loses big time.

Thanos never actually destroyed Power Gem Thor. If you're a fan of Thanos, then you should know that .. *cough* .. tech devices .. *cough*

Uhm, Sentry was a character who mentored tons of heroes and inspired them to be even greater. How about you do some research and stop telling a Sentry expert to learn something about the character, I mean what the hell, dude? [/B]

Yes, the Sentry did inspire many but was also the void doing evil as well. He's always balanced himself out. For every life he saves the Void kills. Did you not read the Sentry volume 2 ? It's fun to point out that he's just as much of an ******* as it is a hero so in the end he can't do anything right.

He was not able to control the Void aspect of him anymore. His last act was to restrain the Void and give the heroes the chance to kill him off. Then Robert never returned.
Robert Reynolds had an illness. Is that a crime? Do you hate sick people? I know some guys from the history books who also hated sick people and got rid of them, if you know what I mean.

Seriously? Human Torch and WW Hulk again? You are an idiot. [/B]

Those showings won't go away. Call me as many names as you want these showings are still canon. 😂

Right now you're lying and using some of the worst ABC-logic I've ever come across.

Sentry nearly always defeated Void, when he was in a good mental condition. You're desperately ignoring every single good showing of the Sentry, when he was clear minded and trying to put him into the nutcase bracket for the sake of this particular battle.

If I remember correctly then Doctor Doom took Silver Surfer's powers once, hell maybe even twice, but that's about it. He had more encounters with the Silver Surfer and he won nearly all of them, mostly by using his tech and his magic, yet that was NEVER enough for the Sentry, not even when he had the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak.
Sentry > Doctor Doom = Silver Surfer[/B]

Sentry can defeat himself as in the Void. It's a part of himself so ofo course he has an advantage against an aspect of himself other characters don't.

Doom also tricked Surfer into stealing his power so what. That doesn't mean he can defeat him in combat. That's the difference. Doom has been dominated by Thor before so who cares it doesn't mean anything to Thanos or even the Surfer whose power level is far greater than Doom's hence stealing his powers in the first place.

Surfer's power>>>Doom. You are lying once again.

Iron Man was trying to flee, when Sentry attacked him. He used CLOC to immobilize Sentry and then continued running away.

Sentry would kill Human Torch with one punch. [/B]

But yet the Sentry lost which makes it even worse and exposes his mental weakness as a huge disadvantage if you yourself think guys he can oneshot him can best him.

You are probably one of the worst debaters I've ever come across in my entire life. This is now not only limited to comic book forum fights, but to simply every single debate I had in my life. [/B]

Originally posted by Enzeru
Once again you're lying and writing down miserable crap.

No one ever said that the Void / Sentry / Robert can't die. He can, he already has, but if he dies, he simply returns, if he wants to and after the Siege he didn't want to return, because he knew that the Void would have killed everyone, if he took over again.

I guess you already gave it up. I don't expect even one valid argument out of your mouth anymore. Do you actually know what plot devices are?
Sentry was in a weakened state, when he took on the Collective, a guy with the powers of 50 mutants, and then he also flew Xorn into the sun, yet Human Torch is too much for him? LOL. Plot devices man, plot devices to remove him from the battlefield. It's that simple. EVERYONE understands that, just not you, because you're a weird one.
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Yes, he stalemated the Collective. Who cares ? Yes, different writers have different portrayals and they both count. Sorry you want to dismiss all the losses because hey look he took on the Collective. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

Sentry stands above Thor. I already adressed it so many times.

Ah, even more lies. Try to follow me now ...[/B]

She-Hulk gets BFR'd by the Sentry, returns with a taxi, punches Sentry down from behind and that doesn't bother him at all. He stands up, takes her punches, punchs her away and BFR's her again.

Against ...[/B]

A Thanos who fears so many things and even trains Gamora to fight his fights, LOL! Additionally to that he gets smacked around by Professor Hulk, one of Hulk's weakest incarnations, even when he is expecting it and he uses his Death Ray Vision once more to blast an opponent away, just like before when he used it to get rid of Thor and the Thing and also thanked them for punching him far away for the needed distance.
AND THERE YOU SAY THAT THANOS IS TOYING WITH HIS ENEMIES, LOL!
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Yeah, I saw Thanos vast damage output :-7
Why don't you post ONLY the picture where he blasts Galactus away and skip the scan, where Galactus is peeeeeeerfectly fine afterwards, easily overpowers Thanos who then has to beg for mercy? Would boost your credibility for sure. Oh wait, it wouldn't!

Void one-shotted Thor and one-shotted everyone else on the battlefield.
That includes Captain America, but the funny thing is that it's freaking unimportant that he one-shotted Captain America. The interesting thing is that he phased through Captain America's shield and one-shotted him then, lol! [/B]

Loki has a greater durability then Ares, so what's your point? He molecule manipulated the crap out of Loki, while he tore apart Ares. Both great feats. I have yet to see Thanos doing something like that.

Thanos can dodge attacks from someone like Champion, who does not have super speed as a part of his power set and he has to teleport away, when Champion decides to destroy the planet. [/B]

Thanos destroyed Drax with one attack. Thanos defeated Ganymede with one slap, Thanos overpowered Lord Mar-vell physically, Thanos drummed the Surfer with attacks and easily, Thanos rocked the Maker with his powers then shut her mind down easily. This far outweighs Ares and Loki. 😂

Thanos shows he can easily dodge his attacks and then teleports away because he's smart and played Champion for the fool that he was. Sentry powers out after a few city blocks go up against the WW Hulk and thanks his opponent for beating him. Ewww what a tough guy.

I always prove it, by writing it down the way it was. If you doubt something, then simply ask for the scans and I will deliver them. No problem.

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^ In this one, it's explained that his power level scales with his mental stability ...

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^ Sentry admits that the agoraphobia is bothering him and he is unable to leave his house for days, while Hulk is on a rampage ...

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^ Later on he faces the Hulk, but loses the control over his powers and starts destroying the entire city. There is no point in that for him, but he is so unstable, that he can't control his powers and since his power level scales with his mental stability in this particular instance, he is not dishing out more damage ...

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^ In this battle there was no hint out about his mental stability and he was destroying planets while holding back ...[/B]

Writers tend to limit the Sentry, when they need a way to downgrade him, so that he doesn't overpower every single other Marvel Earth-bound hero in a matter of seconds.
You're downgrading him by exploiting his bad showings, which can be linked to his mental instability, so that your Thanos doesn't lose the fight and in the process you ignore all the good showings Sentry ever had.

Plot devices, plot devices and even more plot devices.
What else could Iron Man do but to hack CLOC and overload the Sentry with catastrophes all over the planet where countless people die? [/B]

Iron man won through his weak mental stability. It's happened more than just that time.

What else could the Skrulls actually do to the Sentry, but confronting him with the Void, so that he flies away, and even something like that is only possible if he has a bad day in the first place, since Sentry had as many showings, where he stayed in the battle and faced the Void / battled him off. [/B]

Sentry can't be telepathically overpowered / controled. Something like that never happened. But he can be manipulated, if he has bad days. Even Kingpin managed to do something like that.
But for something like that to happen, people need time, his trust and everything else to subdue him. What do you expect Thanos to do in the middle of the fight, while Sentry is punching his face? Talk to him about what? Thanos doesn't know the Sentry. At first he would have to find everything out what he needs to know about the Sentry, but for that he needs prep time and with prep time, he doesn't even have to exploit Sentry's mind, he can simply gather the Infinity Gauntlet again and then he can face the Sentry.
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Thanos was fighting Professor Hulk and the Thing ... He never faced stronger Hulk versions, if I remember correctly, so what makes you think, that Thanos could physically take on characters like WW Hulk?
Because he overpowered Lord Mar-Vell? How many strenght feats did Lord Mar-Vell actually have, besides beating down Nova, who was never all about strenght, not even as Nova-Prime?
Lord Mar-Vell attacked the Silver Surfer and the others only with energy based attacks and magic. And besides that, I think that Lord Mar-Vell can't really reach Sentry's energy output. He could destroy a planet or two, but that's about it.

If I'm not wrong, then Molecule Man yet has to return from the dead.
Thanos never killed someone like the Sentry. [/B]

The Sentry hasn't returned from the dead either. MM isn't immune to death. Thanos is. I backed my claims in my first post.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Already adressed this with the screenshots. People can overcome their phobia, especially if they really have to and in that fight Sentry had to, because Hulk was intending to kill the heroes.

But it's not like Sentry's power level instantly rises from zero to hero, simply because he left his house. If you fear something and overcome the fear, you still don't feel well in the process, but you know that there are more important things, yet you still feel anxious and weak.
That are basically logical facts. You're being once again biased towards Thanos and trying everything in your might to lowball the Sentry.

Lucky you that Pak didn't continue writing the World War Hulk arc, because he had in mind Hulk owning characters like Thanos.

Sentry > Thanos.
Sentry > WW Hulk.

Sentry let loose on the Hulk. The comic made it painfully clear. Power output wasn't his problem by any means and it wasn't enough to take down the WW Hulk.

I am simply seeing it as it laid out. You are letting your own personal bias try to slant what actually happened not me.

Pak never would dare we saw Zeus own Hulk in a pak written story. He did depower the Sentry though unlucky for you.

Thanos>>WW Hulk>Sentry.

What?
It was Blue Marvel's own book and the Sentry defeated him there. Nothing else matters. They were both heroes, brawling it out, while Sentry was an established character and Blue Marvel was someone who had to be hyped up, yet he lost in the end, because the writers knew that Sentry stands above him and judging by the power level he does indeed. [/B]

Find it and give it to me. Not like it's going to bother me, LOL! There are showings all over the places which show Sentry having a much higher power level then what was shown during the WW Hulk arc.

He was mentally unstable and went all out with the power under his dissposal he was not able to wield propperly.
He turned into the bad guy during that story and continued taking Hulk's attacks to tone himself down.

Nope, not going to adress this again. [/B]

He wielded it just fine and hit the Hulk as hard as he could. It wasn't enough and Banner had to put Bob out.

Another wonderful concession. Merry Christmas.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Pak also made it pretty clear in what condition Sentry was and other writers (especially Jenkins) made it clear that Sentry was an ill man from time to time and that his power scaled with that illness.

A weakened Sentry stalemated one of the most powerful Hulk incarnations, yes.

Sentry wasn't weakened and went all out and it still wasn't enough. His power output was all out. It was plainly stated in the comic and by the Sentry himself.

Blue Marvel hit Ares and Wonder Man away, punched Iron man to the ground and during that punch Sentry traveled from the orbit to the Earth and speedblitzed Blue Marvel into the ground.
Blue Marvel isn't as fast as the Sentry. Not in terms of traveling speed, not in terms of reaction time, not in terms of fighting speed... He is overall not in Sentry's league when it comes to speed and few other things as well. [/B]

Sentry speedblitzed him into the ground. He speedblitzed Blue Marvel, who was doing just fine before, when he was tossing around the other Avengers, who were not in his league. Blue Marvel got one-shotted by Sentry, who took the impact of the speedblitz as well, since he basically tackled a super durable meta human and also hit the ground, yet he was the one who was standing in the end. [/B]

Not going to adress this non-sense. [/B]

Nope, I'm not speculating and not favoring anyone, since that's what happened. Sentry took all the hits without trying to avoid them, because he knew that he was losing the control over his powers.

When it comes to forum fights, we're still using the characters at their peak, even in Thanos related threads opened by Quanchi, the guy without a clue.
We don't depower the Sentry, because he had few bad showings where he was mentally unstable and say that that's his regular condition, since he also had very good showings with a clear mind all over the place.

What I'm doing right now, is just being fair.
What you're doing right now, is being biased towards the favorite character and against his opponent. [/B]

We also don't push what's in character under the rug or ignore their weaknesses. Sentry at his best has lost. Photon. WW Hulk.

I didn't depower the Sentry Pak did. 😂

You are losing and badly.

You're using your weird, twisted brain to try to give Thanos a fighting advantage and you have yet to prove that Thanos can permanently kill someone like the Sentry. When you manage to do that, you have the point, but since you won't be able to do so, how about you actually stop talking about it?

And once again you're wrong with the World War Hulk instance. I will post few more scans, because right now you demanded some again. As I said it. Everything I say, I can prove with scans, you just have to ask for it. [/B]

You speculate and can't prove anything with scans. Not one single scan has helped your case. Not one.

In his fight with World War Hulk, Sentry had the upper hand the entire time. Pay good attention at the scans. At the actual fight and what's happening there:

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^ In these few scans you see Sentry bullrushing Hulk through few buildings. Hulk knew he was coming, yet he was not able to dodge. He took it. In the last scan you see Hulk hitting Sentry in the face and now watch it ...[/B]

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^ You see Sentry talking to the Hulk, not attacking him, taking his hits, supporting him with words, while Hulk is all serious ...

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^ [/i]Sentry smiles, releases power and busts everything around him away. Hulk falls to the ground, Sentry flies above and his energy escalates, causes damage in billions ...[/i]

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^ [/i]Hulk's Warbounds are trying to cut him free from Sentry's energy which subdues Hulk ...[/i][/B]

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^ You see Hulk holding Sentry's energy in his hands, insulting the people around him and jumping up ...

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^ Hulk is all serious again and starts getting attacked by the Sentry, slap after slap, obviously unable to defeat himself, until he grabs the Sentry ...

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^ He starts punching Sentry again, who rather talks then actually fighting back ...[/B]

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^ In the end, they brawl it out and revert both back to their human forms ...

And these are the reasons why even Hulk fans say that Sentry was busting him pretty hard during that fight, since Sentry took the fight a lot easier then the Hulk. Additionally to that he was in a weak mental state and didn't want to fight in the first place, because he considers Hulk and him as friends. [/B]

Sentry had more instances with Cosmic Cubes then Thanos.

a) Sentry was holding the Cosmic Cube for a while.
b) Sentry easily overpowered the Molecule Man, who is the half of a Cosmic Cube and is supposed to have vast potential, maybe even the greatest potential of all Cosmic Cube beings, because of his humanity.
c) Sentry harmed Absorbing Man, who was wielding the powers of a Cosmic Cube, yet he also got reality warped the crap out of him by Creel in the very same fight, but then again. I'm always saying that Sentry would have some major issues with a powerful reality warper.[/B]

Advantage:Thanos.

The Collective easily overpowered planet busters o_O And Sentry was unstable, when he was facing him.

And it's not like Thanos defeating the Maker is that impressive, especially because he needed more time and attacks, than Sentry needed more time to defeat the Molecule Man :-7
Are you impressed by the explosion Thanos survived during his fight with the Maker? Sentry can inflict sooo much more damage and also in a shorter amount of time, because he has the speed to do so, while Thanos has not. [/B]

Sentry was completely destroyed by the MM and needed time to adjust to these powers and the MM to teach him how to wield them. Thanos toyed with the Maker who is a full cube being. The explosion was against Thanos so the environment didn't take the bulk of it. I've seen far less defeat the sentry ie. WW Hulk.

Originally posted by Enzeru
I actually don't mind ABC-logic.

Terrax jobs a lot, yes, but mostly he can compete, if he faces someone, yet Sentry humiliated him so hard, it wasn't even funny anymore.

Sentry would also destroy Silver Surfer. Silver Surfer is not impressive. Silver Surfer also admitted that Mjolnir is overall more powerful then him, he was not able to keep Mjolnir from Thor, even though he was empowered, he said that Doctor Doom and him would be equals, but yet he lost most of the fights he had with Doctor Doom, yet Sentry would defeat Thor and Doctor Doom like he already has.

The same applies for Thanos. Sentry would defeat Thanos and you have yet to come up with valid arguments to actually start a debate. Everything 'til now was plain old wishy-washy.

Surfer also defeats him easily. Far less than Terrax has defeated the Sentry you can't forget that either.

No, the Sentry wouldn't since he hasn't destroyed Thor, Blue Marvel, or WW Hulk. You just make baseless claim after baseless claim. Surfer is less powerful than Thor so what. That doesn't mean he doesn't bring his own advantages to the table outside the I am more powerful card. A lot weaker characters than the Sentry have defeated the Sentry. Torch, anyone. 😂

Saying the Sentry defeats Thanos isn't an argument it's a baseless claim. I supported my theory with scans. Thanos has the power to permanently kill immortal beings. Sentry doesn't. Sentry has bene destroyed by one Thor attack who is less powerful than Thanos. Thanos oneshots him and he doesn't come back. All verified on panel. Nuh uh isn't a valid response.

Yes, anything besides the strenght, speed, energy projection, matter manipulation and all the other gimmicks.

Even Iron Man can kill Sentry with his permission. It's up to Sentry if he returns or not.

Nope. [/B]

Iron Man isn't powerful enough to destroy his body like thor is. Thanos doesn't need permission as avatar of death.

Yep.

I can prove anything you want. How about you try it?

Adressed all of these points, also multiple times.

He flew from Earth to Saturn during one scream and then he also returned to destroy the Super Skrull who was threatening Lindy. [/B]

No, you didn't your response was nuh uh.

Yes, so traveling speed is high end but this isn't ain't a sight seeing trip this is a combat fight. Sentry's speed failed to neutralize Thor because he countered.

Yeah, through a bad plot device to get rid of him. Your point is? It's pathetic how often you're brining in this bullshit into this ... well, it's actually hard to call it a debate, since it's more of a massacre where you're the victim.

How about I bring in other PIS moments in the history of comic books, where Spider-Man beats down Firelord, Captain America knocks out the Hulk, or Squirrel Girl defeats Thanos, LOLO!

Stop only looking at the pictures. Read the freaking comic books, you cave-troll. [/B]

The sg isn't canon and occurred off panel. The other examples are fine in my book. If they really go outside the norm they don't carry much weight but the examples I have brought is the norm. It's like you have no idea who the Sentry is.

Iron Man is vastly outclassed when it comes to comparing him with the Sentry. He was not able to get rid of the Sentry by punching him, he was not able to get rid of the Sentry by trying to fly away. Sentry was stomping him all over the place and his only chance was to get past Reed's firewall and exploit CLOC to immobilize the Sentry.

Hercules was outskilling a Sentry who wasn't serious at all about the fight and tried to talk it out. When he finally had enough and also said it: "It's been fun, but now it's over", he speedblitzed Hercules, rammed him into the ground, punched him, where Hercules had to use both hands to block the punch and then had to cheat and kick Sentry into the nuts, to keep running away and sinking a cruise ship to distract the Sentry. [/B]

Sentry used his speed and it was humiliated. Herc wasn't all that serious if at all either. Looks like Sentry's speed isn't as formidable when put the test in comics as you would lead me to believe. Good thing I read comics and am intelligent.

Sentry punched Blue Marvel more often and took him down, before he got BFR'd with the punch into the orbit, yet he returned 3 panels after with a speedblitz which one-shotted Blue Marvel, who was fine before and yet not able to react to the speedblitz, nor stand up afterwards.

Everything Thor did in their entire battle was one BFR through a Mjolnir-smack. Afterwards he was chanceless, losing more and more blood and he was in the same position as Ares before he got ripped apart. You could say that it was Osborn who saved Thor from being torn apart!
Additionally to that Thor was not able to prevent Voidsentry from taking down Asgard and killing Loki, because he is simply too slow. [/B]

Thor countered his speed with the next attack. No, Thor knocked him back and then others dogpiled him. That's what happened in the comic.

Once again, you didn't do crap.

Sentry had the upper hand in nearly every single scenario you just named and most of these characters have feats which put them strenght wise above Thanos, who lacks the strenght feats. And while few of them have greater feats then the Sentry, they were still behind him, when they faced him.
Additionally to that Thanos faced a lot of weaker characters in the past who got many major upgrades, which were also visible. You can't say something like that about Thanos.
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When I say one-shot, I often have in mind that he took them down with one attack, basically something what happened to everyone on the battlefield at the beginning of Siege #4, where Void raised his hand and summoned black tendrils, which were going through Vision, through Void's godly body, through Captain America's shield and torturing them. [/B]

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Once again I blame this forum for actually separating the Siege Sentry / Void from all the other showings from the past, which were actually far greater then everything you could see during the Siege.

Void often faced legions of heroes, who were going against him.
For example at the beginning of the New Avengers where the following people faced him and failed miserably:

The X-Men, Namor and few of his followers, Iron Man and S.H.I.E.L.D., the Inhumans, the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, Doctor Strange and maybe even few more, don't know right now. [/B][/QUOTE] I am arguing against all Void/Sentry feats as usable here. The Void was taking on the New Avengers he didn't defeat them iirc. You named a bunch of lower end characters that he faced off against which proves nothing here. Thanos was never destroyed by one attack by Thor like the Void has. Thanos oneshots him.

Void was totally ignoring them, tossing them around, stomping on Captain America, while the others desperately tried to free him.
It took the combined efforts of Iron Man, Doctor Strange and Invisible Woman to create a super force field to prevent the Void from attacking Emma Frost who was trying to help Robert.
The three force field casters were not able to enter the battle, but only had to substain the force field and it took the best of them, since in the end you could see Invisible Woman having nose bleed, something what happens when she goes all out.

On that battlefield there were a lot more powerful people then the pre Norn-stones-upgrade heroes from Siege and yet even all these people like the Inhumans, the Fantastic Four and so on were not bothering Void at all. AT ALL, he didn't even pay attention.
While Void is a team-buster and still gets defeated by Sentry on a regular basis, if Sentry is mentally stable... Thanos is not a team buster and gets tagged and tossed around even when he has the Infinity Gauntlet, because even he has some issues. [/B]

Human Torch has defeated the Sentry before. The avengers were fazing him and the helicarrier definitely brought out the excess guilt which lied dormant in him. Thanos defeated far a far superior team in ig while toying them than the team which defeated the Void in Siege. That's the difference Thanos wins while the Void goes away sometimes because he can't cope with what he's done. Cowardice.

Sentry > Thanos

Once again you're lying and talking complete non-sense. No wonder that no one takes you seriously.
Robert never asked Thor specificaly. He was looking at the ground and asked to be killed. Thor was the first one who said: "No", with all of his ego. I'm telling you, Robert was the one who killed the Void, no one else. Even Bendis, the writer of the event said that.

LoL, WW Hulk had the intention to destroy everything around him. He didn't bother about the people. (And now I'm specificaly talking about the heroes in the area) [/B]

Keep the personal attacks to yourself you aren't fazing me in the slightest, mate.

Thor had the power to completely destroy his body people like captain America did not. That's the difference. Thor had the power necessary to destroy his body so Thanos can definitely get the job done.

WW Hulk saved people against Zom/Strange and not a single person died during WW Hulk he always had the innocents in mind. You really are bad at this debating thing. Learn from me.

Originally posted by Enzeru
I don't know if I should start to laugh or to cry. You're a giant joke.

There is nothing impressive in these examples. Hell, Terrax sliced with his axe through Surfer's board. Does that make him awesome? Sentry didn't even flinch when he destroyed Terrax' axe with his bare hands.

A fact is it also that Thanos never killed someone who is as unique as the Sentry and simply decides to return from the dead. Sentry is not a character who simply can't die, because he is immortal. He can die, but then he returns. That's being much more then just immortal.
You still haven't adressed Thanos' failure, where he said that immortality has it's limit and that the limit could be a drop from the orbit, lolo!

Destroying Surfer's board isn't defeating the Surfer especially when he's been portrayed as being more formidable than Terrax.

Thanos killed immortal beings. Being unique won't save him from the avatar of death. Sentry has no choice here Thanos takes it away from him. The sad thing is the Sentry can choose to opt out against lessers than Thanos and has already done so.

Champion wasn't a true immortal they just live long. This was covered in Thanos quest. Wow. You honestly need to read more because that crazy leap of logic has nothing to do with the cancerverse beings who were beyond death.

You're like... You're like... Oh damn, no. I need to count to 10.
1... 2... 3... 4... Sentry wins.

The Void was badly, badly harmed and still restrained by Robert when he got killed by Thor, so there is no bad showing for Void and there is no good showing for Thor in that one. [/B]

The Void wasn't restrained since he was attacking the heroes his mind was clouded with Bob guilt. He wanted death and forced Thor to destroy his body. Thanos has the power to take away the option.

b) Void was actually very weakened or did you miss all the attacks from the empowered heroes and the dropping of the Helicarrier onto his forehead?
c) Loki is durable enough. He proved it more then once in the past, but you probably don't know crap about Loki to actually judge it.
d) I'm not scared of Thanos' current AOD upgrade, since that's what it is. It's just a current upgrade. When he loses it, you won't have shit to defend your character. Right now he only has his immortality which turns the fight into a longer one, than we actually want.
Thanos killing immortal enemies doesn't mean shit. Either you do understand why it's debatable if it would work on the Sentry, or you're simply too stupid and really don't understand it, but then again. It has been debated well enough in this thread, so check it out. I'm not going to draw you a picture, to make it more understandable for you. [/B]

Sentry moves faster then all of these people, so what's your point?

And you should not adress Thanos' reflexes during the IG saga, because I already adressed that point in this thread.
There is no great reflex showing for Thanos, since nothing indicated that he was reacting to the Surfer who MISSED his target. Judging by what we saw there, we could either say that Thanos maybe felt the energies from far, far away and knew that something would be coming, or he was suspicious because of Captain America, who was simply standing there, not reacting to the upcoming punch and that's why Thanos suspected something. Nothing has shown that he has uber reflexes. He himself said that he nearly lost the Infinity Gauntlet. [/B]

Surfer didn't miss Thanos moved. That's clear because Surfer doesn't miss his cosmic senses and reactions don't make stupid mistakes Thanos showed the reflexes to dodge one of the fastest attacks ever shown in comics. You can see the glean in Thanos' eye and then he moves. Awesome showing just beyond sentry.

Thanos blasted Doom away with the wrath of the Infinity Gauntlet. That sounds more then just toying around, especially if we keep in mind that in the scene before Dr. Doom was trying to take away the IG by force from Thanos' hand, who then was probably pissed off.

Iron Man said that he was lucky that his armor was not harmed after Sentry's speedblitz.
Sentry went easy on Iron Man, since at the beginning he only wanted to talk him into giving up.

Guess what, Sentry didn't went so easy on Dr. Doom and overpowered him multiple times, yay! Can't remember when Thanos did something like that. [/B]

What happened is still canon.

Thanos beats far more impressive foes than Doom. Thor's crushed Doom as well that doesn't mean he's a matchup for Thanos. When has Doom ever been a matchup for Thanos on panel ? Do you have a point ?

Sentry wins.

So, judging by your miserable logic, which is making me angrier and angrier ...

Sentry is greater then Doom ... who defeated Silver Surfer more then once, yet in your opinion Silver Surfer stands above Sentry? And while Iron Man was desperately trying to flee from the Sentry and found a way to get rid of him by hacking CLOC he now defeated the Sentry in a fight and because Iron Man is weaker then Thanos, Sentry as to be under Thanos too? [/B]

Control yourself you are beginning to act like the Sentry.

Doom tricked him he didn't defeat him in combat. That's the difference. Doom lusts after his power because it's far greater than his own while Thanos doesn't even take notice of the Surfer. Context is a *****, huh ?

I am saying the Surfer has the power to best the sentry is WW Hulk can burn him out. Sentry isn't beyond elite top tiers and never has been. The Void is but then again so is Thanos.

You are stupid. I would actually never say something like that to a person who is older then me and could have children or something like that and achieved more in life, then I have with my 24 years, but you sir ... you are simply stupid.

I told you more then once about the showings where you can judge the characters strenght / speed level.
If you don't believe me, simply demands scans. I already posted a lot of scans in the answers where you asked for something like that.

"Rage, hold me ... ;_;" [/B]

Nothing you have told me about with strength is even on Thanos' level yet above it. It's not even above elite top tier strength.

You too know that Sentry wins, I know it [:-)]

LoLoLoLo, yeah no wonder few people laugh at you.

1. He "burned himself" out during WW Hulk and he was destroying planets while holding back during New Thunderbolds. Guess what? Sentry wins.

2. He stalemated the Collective, while he was in a weak mental state and the Collective was powerful enough to EASILY trash Binary, who is a planet buster, while Thanos had to teleport away from an exploding planet. [/B]

Another personal attack it seems I am deep within your mind.

1. Destroying planets is something the Surfer can do so it doesn't prove much if anything. He burned himself out against the WW Hulk which shows he can exhaust himself unlike Thanos.

2.Yes, he stalemated an inexperienced Collective who trashed a top tier. So what ? Thor has trashed the Surfer before but has been ko'd by Airwalker.

3. Thanos got attacked by the Maker with an explosion. Wowooooooo big ass damage there! How about you adress the point where Sentry easily defeated Molecule Man? Far more easily and a lot faster then Thanos finished off the Maker, who also basically took on mortal form in the end and depowered herself O_o

Sentry > Void > Thanos [/B]

Sentry was defeated and dead until he came back. Thanos came back and easily bested an entire cube being. Thanos also never burned himself out against an elite top tier.

Originally posted by Enzeru
What can Robert Reynolds do?

He is strong, fast, durable, invulnerable, can regenerate, is immortal, seems to not age, doesn't have to eat, can survive in space and overall in extreme temperates, can teleport around, can mind-wipe entire planets and even further dig into specific memories of people, he can insert his memories into the minds of other people, he has overall telepathy and empathy, he can heal and resurrect people, he can manipulate, absorb and emit various kinds of energies and radiations, he returns from the dead at will, he can give his powers to others, he can go invisible and turn intangible ... molecule manipulation. He pretty much is all-powerful, since he has no limits.

Then you go on to give me a basic description as you overrate his abilities. Hulk's rage has no limits doesn't mean he's all powerful. Sentry has no known limits that doesn't mean his powers don't have a top especially when we look at the WW Hulk fight. That's hyperbole which is proven wrong on a consistent basis.

I'm not talking about destroying a planet. I'm talking about destroying multiple planets while vastly holding back, to not insta-kill Captain America and when Captain America is not on the battlefield anymore, releasing the power and having so much energy that it escalates a microverse.

Silver Surfer does not have that much power and Thanos does not have that much power. [/B]

Thanos has more power since he can kill immortals in a universe where death is eliminated. Surfer wouldn't putter out against the WW Hulk and has been described as having limitless power as well doesn't mean it's true. You really have no idea how things work.

...

Gonna tell you a secret, mate [:-)] He BFR'd him into a microverse and knew that Sentry would find his way out, but until then they would be already gone.

Actually yes, speed is always an advantage and also was it in these particular fights. Even in the weird Hercules fight, where Sentry finally had enough and simply speedblitzed Hercules into the ground and then punched him, forced Hercules to use both hands to block the punch: "Ugn..."[/B]

So that was a loss because he couldn't return in a reasonable amount of time. 😂

Hercules still blocked the punch showing his reflexes are up to the task. It didn't work against Thor either. It won't work on Thanos either. He erects a shield and watches him smack his face into it.

That's the point and that's also why you should pity yourself.
You basically didn't adress anything interesting which could actually grant Thanos the victory. I deconstructed basically everything you continued throwing at me in your pathetic biasm towards Thanos.

By reading through your entire text, I mainly came across the same few sentences:

- "Sentry burned himself out during WW Hulk"
- "Human Torch defeated him"
- "Iron Man defeated him"
- "Thanos is the Avatar of Death"
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That's it. There was NOTHING else. During this entire debate, from the very first beginning, I was the one who provided more informations about Thanos then you did and that's actually pathetic.
I actually liked Thanos, the reason why I have so many Thanos comics, but right now I'm starting to hate him because of you and your stupidity. You don't know how to debate, you don't provide anything I could work with besides your weird, strange biasm.[/B]

You have failed to prove Thanos cannot handle someone of the Sentry's abilities because you didn't cite anything the Sentry could replicate with regards to Thanos. Ya know debating.

The same applies for Nihilist, who won't be able to debate for Thanos either, since Thanos would simply lose.

Sentry > Thanos. It was official when you opened this thread and it's official now, after so many posts, where you basically said NOTHING smart at all and I really mean nothing. [/B]

Thanos>>>Sentry.

I ended this debate with a onepost kill.

Void.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Void.

Basically Enzuru has left the thread with his tail between his legs. No amount of nuh uh's and I don't like that and PIS blah blah can take or divert our attention away from Sentry's low showings. Sentry's portrayals paint a clear picture that he losses to the titan, and when we break down the areas of superiority it becomes even more clear thanos dominates

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Basically Enzuru has left the thread with his tail between his legs. No amount of nuh uh's and I don't like that and PIS blah blah can take or divert our attention away from Sentry's low showings. Sentry's portrayals paint a clear picture that he losses to the titan, and when we break down the areas of superiority it becomes even more clear thanos dominates

What the hell are you talking about? I - once again deconstructed everything that came from you, which was basically full of missinterpretations and lowballing and since then you didn't do crap to adress it and it would be even pathetic if you would try it, since you're not argueing, you're basically saying: "Thanos is stronger then Sentry" and often bringing up Thanos' strenght feats which are way to low to compare him to the Sentry. Additionally to that Thanos has NO ... and I mean ... NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO speed feats, so that you could actually believe that he is nearly as fast as the Sentry.

Or do you think, because I didn't answer to the scumbag Quanchi, that I'm done or what?
I read through Quanchi's "answer" and it's the same old bullshit, where he simply ignores plot-devices which BFR'd the Sentry more then often, since he sees that as a possibility to lowball a character.

But at the same time someone like Quanchi supports Thanos in the fight against a full powered Tyrant. Way to go, Thanos-wankers.
Additionally to that you are not better, after reading through your opinion to the silver bullet story and your upper responses.

As I said it again. This thread is full of my statements and screens which show that Thanos would not be able to handle the Sentry. Deal with that, and don't talk to me from the side, you moron.
And no, just because Sentry got BFR'd by Hammond, Thanos won't do the same thing to him as well, since it would not be a comic book fight, where plot-devices prevail. It would be a regular forum-battle, where strenght, speed and energy projection triumphs, all the things Sentry can do better and I don't even want to start talking about the molecule manipulation, while you retards are coming up with Thanos' intelligence and acting like he would actually have the time to profit from it.

Sentry > Thanos.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Basically Enzuru has left the thread with his tail between his legs. No amount of nuh uh's and I don't like that and PIS blah blah can take or divert our attention away from Sentry's low showings. Sentry's portrayals paint a clear picture that he losses to the titan, and when we break down the areas of superiority it becomes even more clear thanos dominates

Originally posted by Enzeru
What the hell are you talking about? I - once again deconstructed everything that came from you, which was basically full of missinterpretations and lowballing and since then you didn't do crap to adress it and it would be even pathetic if you would try it, since you're not argueing, you're basically saying: "Thanos is stronger then Sentry" and often bringing up Thanos' strenght feats which are way to low to compare him to the Sentry. Additionally to that Thanos has NO ... and I mean ... NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO speed feats, so that you could actually believe that he is nearly as fast as the Sentry.

Or do you think, because I didn't answer to the scumbag Quanchi, that I'm done or what?
I read through Quanchi's "answer" and it's the same old bullshit, where he simply ignores plot-devices which BFR'd the Sentry more then often, since he sees that as a possibility to lowball a character.

But at the same time someone like Quanchi supports Thanos in the fight against a full powered Tyrant. Way to go, Thanos-wankers.
Additionally to that you are not better, after reading through your opinion to the silver bullet story and your upper responses.

As I said it again. This thread is full of my statements and screens which show that Thanos would not be able to handle the Sentry. Deal with that, and don't talk to me from the side, you moron.
And no, just because Sentry got BFR'd by Hammond, Thanos won't do the same thing to him as well, since it would not be a comic book fight, where plot-devices prevail. It would be a regular forum-battle, where strenght, speed and energy projection triumphs, all the things Sentry can do better and I don't even want to start talking about the molecule manipulation, while you retards are coming up with Thanos' intelligence and acting like he would actually have the time to profit from it.

Sentry > Thanos.

WTF... You did nothing of the sort. I came into the thread tooled you and you resorted to your typical nuh uh's, I don't like it, that didn't make any sense, he didn't use this power or that power, PIS blah blah. I went area by area and illusrated Thanos clear superiority over Sentry. It was all laid out there. You came back with Nuh Uh, Old characters, PIS and repeat. Yet you think you won LOL. Are you dellusional, trying to be funny or just plain stupid?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You did nothing of the sort. I came into the thread tooled you

You're basically Quanchi II o_O