Hulk vs Thor

Started by Stoic41 pages
Originally posted by Silent Master
Last I checked this fight doesn't start with the Hulk in mid leap, so have fun proving that the Hulk has enough superspeed to react to the starting bell, cross .5 kilometers and grab/punch Thor before Thor can react.

Why are you attempting to dictate the outcome of the battle? this isn't an I say this, and you say that type of a situation. It seems that you may have misread, or simply had trouble understanding what I posted, or you are switching to strawman tactics in an attempt to negate the fact that the Hulk has many options at his disposal that he could use in order to close the distance. It's far less difficult for me to prove that the Hulk would have and does have the ability to reach Thor, than you have in saying that Thor would never allow the Hulk to get within close proximity of him. Thor does not have any type of precognitive abilities, and thus he can not foresee which direction, or tactic the Hulk may use in reaching him.

The Hulk can easily rip up a million tons of rock, and hurl it at Thor as a tactic to reach him. See how hard was that to foresee? I'm not going to attempt to assume whatever it is that you believe would happen in this battle, so I will simply ask you.

Do you assume that the Hulk stands in one spot while Thor begins shooting the hell out of him with everything at his disposal? Is it assumed that neither of the combatants are familiar with what the other is capable of?

If one character is moving at over mach 7, how long would it take for them to move half a kilometer? mach 7 = 2 382.03 m / s

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
True, but he isn't a sitting duck either. Anything Thor throws at him, Hulk can dodge, or jump away.

You really don't like the idea of Hulk being super fast, but he is. Try reading some Hulk comics, he jumps at plains, rockets, missiles and only very rarely misses...

If Hulk being able to jump after plains, rockets and missiles will allow him to dodge everything Thor throws at him, wouldn't Thor's ability to fly FTL mean that Hulk has zero chance of ever hitting Thor?

Originally posted by Silent Master
If Hulk being able to jump after plains, rockets and missiles will allow him to dodge everything Thor throws at him, wouldn't Thor's ability to fly FTL mean that Hulk has zero chance of ever hitting Thor?

Thor can fly faster than light, this is true, but he can not react or fight at light speed. This is Thor not the Flash.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Do you have a scan of this?
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir193-EnergyAbsorptionAEMH.jpg

Doesn't look radiation anymore to me.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor can fly faster than light, this is true, but he can not react or fight at light speed. This is Thor not the Flash.

The Hulk can jump at plains, rockets and missiles, this is true, but he can not react or fight at those speeds. This is the Hulk not Quicksilver.

Originally posted by Damborgson
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir193-EnergyAbsorptionAEMH.jpg

Doesn't look radiation anymore to me.

Nice scan, but the only problem that I see with this sort of tactic is that the Hulk takes his power from an inexhaustible and undefined source. Is it presumed also that Thor would shoot him with the same power that he is absorbing? I don't really fully understand the point of your scan? Can you explain?

Originally posted by Silent Master
The Hulk can jump at plains, rockets and missiles, this is true, but he can not react or fight at those speeds. This is the Hulk not Quicksilver.

Not sure what your post was meant to convey, but I made solid points in mine. Your attempts in trying to turn this around only means that you have no reply to my other posts. You want this to seem like a one sided affair, when it clearly wouldn't be.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure what your post was meant to convey, but I made solid points in mine. Your attempts in trying to turn this around only means that you have no reply to my other posts. You want this to seem like a one sided affair, when it clearly wouldn't be.

The post you quoted was me repsonding to someone claiming that the Hulk's jumping speed would allow him to dodge Thor's attacks, my post was pointing out that applying the same logic to Thor's flight speed would mean that the Hulk would have zero chance to hit him.

Your post in no way countered my point.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The post you quoted was me repsonding to someone claiming that the Hulk's jumping speed would allow him to dodge Thor's attacks, my post was pointing out that applying the same logic to Thor's flight speed would mean that the Hulk would have zero chance to hit him.

Your post in no way countered my point.

Thor would certainly hit the Hulk, however there is a chance that the Hulk could evade, or simply uses the environment (one million tons of rock) to absorb or throw at Thor, while he attempts to close the distance.

Proving that Thor's attacks would put down HOTM Hulk is harder to prove than the Hulk's ability to possibly close the distance between himself, and Thor, so good luck proving that this could not happen.

Thor not having cosmic senses, or low level precognition means that he would not foresee, or be able to read what the Hulk's next move would be. So yeah I did counter your point. Can you explain why none of this could happen? I mean with 100% confidence on your part.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor would certainly hit the Hulk, however there is a chance that the Hulk could evade, or simply uses the environment (one million tons of rock) to absorb or throw at Thor, while he attempts to close the distance.

Proving that Thor's attacks would put down HOTM Hulk is harder to prove than the Hulk's ability to possibly close the distance between himself, and Thor, so good luck proving that this could not happen.

Thor not having cosmic senses, or low level precognition means that he would not foresee, or be able to read what the Hulk's next move would be. So yeah I did counter you point. Can you explain why none of this could happen? I mean with 100% confidence on your part.

My point was that Thor can fly far faster than the Hulk can jump, so no.....you haven't countered my point.

Originally posted by Silent Master
My point was that Thor can fly far faster than the Hulk can jump, so no.....you haven't countered my point.

^ Weak.

Does CISless Thor mean that he would fly away every time that the Hulk attempted to engage him? If your answer is yes, you are obviously attempting to undermine anyone's intelligence that thinks otherwise. CISless means Thor without restraint, not Thor with Silent Master's approach to battle.

Yes Thor can fly faster, but he does not fight at hyper speeds (you know, the thousand punches per second stuff?), think at hyper speeds, or react at hyper speeds. The very fact that Thor has been hit by other characters slower than ones that move at light speed is proof enough, that the Hulk can and has justifiably hit him in the past, and that it was not PIS.

The Hulk has hit Thor in the past, without playing the CIS card. This CIS shit has it's limits, and I believe that you have taxed those limits to the extreme.

another at length discussion regarding hulkie and thorie

hulk wins

what's not to discuss

sheesh

With CIS off, Why wouldn't Thor use his range to attack the Hulk?

i never give pause to the whole cis pis nonsense

i follow the battles

and to me hulk is simply more powerful than thor

thor has a hammer and long hair 😛 ..... on the reals tho its how its written

its like supes he's not gonna speedblitz everyone if so he'll have a perfect record

so cis thor should win...on here it gives him an advantage which i disagree but i don't run kmc that's why i follow what's written

Originally posted by Silent Master
With CIS off, Why wouldn't Thor use his range to attack the Hulk?

Not saying that he wouldn't, but saying that he would fly away every time that the Hulk gets within distance to engage him is not the way that Thor rolls. It never was. If this is what this thread was meant to devolve into, it should have been called What If you had Thor's power vs The Hulk. We can't just rewrite the character, because we can't accept or are unwilling to conceive of the notion that the Hulk actually has the ability to get within striking distance of Thor. But at the same time others can't simply continue ignoring Thor's ability to take heavy hits, and return heavy ones as well.

Thor is more powerful and has better versatility, that's why Marvel has him try and slug it out with Hulk, as it's the only way for the Hulk to have a chance at winning.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not saying that he wouldn't, but saying that he would fly away every time that the Hulk gets within distance to engage him is not the way that Thor rolls. It never was. If this is what this thread was meant to devolve into, it should have been called What If you had Thor's power vs The Hulk. We can't just rewrite the character, because we can't accept or are unwilling to conceive of the notion that the Hulk actually has the ability to get within striking distance of Thor. But at the same time others can't simply continue ignoring Thor's ability to take heavy hits, and return heavy ones as well.

CIS was turned off and the thread starter said they are using everything they have....that means Thor will be using his flight and long range attacks.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor is more powerful and has better versatility, that's why Marvel has him try and slug it out with Hulk, as it's the only way for the Hulk to have a chance at winning.

Thor can dish out more power than Hulk in terms of long distance attacks, This is true, but the Hulk has proven time and again that he can weather some very heavy attacks. So I don't agree with you. What happens if Thor lost contact with Mjolnir because it was momentarily jarred from his grasp? This has happened in the past. What happens then? So many things can happen in this fight. The Hulk could win, and Thor could win, but neither would win a majority of the time by steamrolling the other.

How is Thor going to lose contact with Mjolnir?

Originally posted by Damborgson
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir193-EnergyAbsorptionAEMH.jpg

Doesn't look radiation anymore to me.


Thor says "return your" energy tenfold. I appreciate the scan but it's pretty ambiguous and doesn't really definitively confirm your claim either way. What book is this from? It doesn't even look canon.