Originally posted by psycho gundam
i lol'd
Naija has a very valid point. Does Thor normally run and hide so that he can blast the mess out of his opponent? CISless Thor has also seemingly gained the ability to know exactly what the Hulk will do like gaining a danger sense, and therefore have the ability to shut down any and every attempt at getting near him.
This is what I get from many people arguing for Thor.
1. Thor will whip up numerous cyclones while the Hulk still hasn't decided to leap in and stop this mess.
2. Once the cyclones are spinning, Thor then begins raining down bolts from the heavens, and the Hulk stilll has not decided to go on the offensive. Meanwhile the Hulk can jump at speeds that enable him to bridge the initial distance between the two in fractions of a second.
3. Thor who was incapable of doing more than stalemating the Savage Hulk, now has the strength to withstand a Hulk that is more than 1000x as strong as the one that he stalemated with.
With all of this considered, Thor in some peoples minds still takes a vast majority of wins. I hope the people who think Thor would dust the Hulk come to see why the people who think he does not, feel the way that they do by reading the above.
Originally posted by janus77Okay Now Your Just Overhyping Right There I'll Agree Though His Like Them, But Not As Smart As Tony actually that's agreeable, But Being More Cunning Than Doom and being more smarter than reed......why would he be 4th most smartest person in the world,who is smarter than doom and richards in the first place
Banner would absolutely slaughter Thor. Even Banner Jnr (Cho) knocked a mjolnir equipped Thor on his arse.Banner is like Doom in terms of cunning and scheming and like Tony Stark in terms of inventions (maybe even closer to Reed Richards, iirc).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Silent Master Said Hulk Without Gamma Energy.....If He Meant Banner He Would Have Said ''Banner Without Hulk'' or something so i think he meant Hulk without using his gamma energy like Thor Not Using His hammer and like surfer not using his board...
Seriously???You think, and let me get this right here, a human being,[b] in a forum fight
(so starting about 100m - or whatever the distance is - away) with no prep, no special exotic devices, can beat Thor, who even without Mjolnir in his hands can still control the weather, has his strength, combat speed and skills, and durability????Really??
Like, truly?? [/B]
Originally posted by Silent MasterYou know maybe you can't speak good english or is that I just could not understad what you were saying but either way who wants to listen to you anyway(minus the people who support Thor for this thread cause they will suck up to even the people they hate the most just because they support there favorite character) so please again be more specific?
Don't waste your time, he's a fanboy.
Originally posted by Naija boy
^ ah didn't see that. Well in that case this a non fight since Thor can just go to the other side of the planet and rain down global storms using his weather powers. Thats not much of an actual confrontation between them then
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Yeah but he never fights like that. Fights have to be in character, CIS or no CIS.
Thor invoked massive planetary storms before. He chooses not to do so against the Hulk because of his CIS; him wanting to engage Hulk on Hulk's terms (strictly melee) and win. The OP also states he's using everything at his disposal to win.
So, per this thread, it's a valid argument for him.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankmangog/thanos-clone waded through a lot of that stuff, so plain offensive versatility doesn't spell victory here.
Thor invoked massive planetary storms before. He chooses not to do so against the Hulk because of his CIS; him wanting to engage Hulk on Hulk's terms (strictly melee) and win. The OP also states he's using everything at his disposal to win.So, per this thread, it's a valid argument for him.
mjolnir's draining ability is the real CIS/CIP that could change everything however
Originally posted by psycho gundam
mangog/thanos-clone waded through a lot of that stuff, so plain offensive versatility doesn't spell victory here.mjolnir's draining ability is the real CIS/CIP that could change everything however
On the subject of Mjolnir's draining capabilities. How does it drain the infinite? He wouldn't be draining the Hulk, but rather tapping from the source that the Hulk takes his power from. The Hulk consciously amplified his power levels by actively tapping that source unlike what the Savage Hulk was doing on a subconscious level. This means that Thor could draw power from the Hulk, but this does not stop the Hulk from actively drawing power himself. At most it would slow down the rate of growth that the Hulk can attain, but not fully stop his growth.
Another thing, how many things are Thor doing at once? Is he tapping the gamma energy, as well as launching G-Blasts, lightning strikes, wind funnels, soul displacement? What? No one seems to want to accept that as soon as the bell rings the Hulk would not sit there and wait for all of these things to transpire.
Thor does not have a danger sense, nor does he have computer like reactions, nor can he dictate exactly what the Hulk will do. CIS or no CIS. I made an analogy in another thread and calculated the amount of time that it would take for the Hulk under forum rules to bridge the distance between himself and Thor, by leaping at enormous speeds. It makes no sense at all on how Thor would be able to whip up all of the things that people are saying that he would in micro seconds.
Let me show you guys once more. The Savage Hulk was said to be able to leap at speed in excess of mach 7 which is 2 382.03 miles per hour. These speeds were attained by the strength that he possessed. Now if we factor in the fact that The Hulk of Heart of the Monster fame, was seen on panel to overpower the Wendigo and Bi-Beast who were transformed to be 1000 x base, we can conclude that the Hulk was over 1000x stronger than the Savage Hulk. Thus it is very logical to conclude that his leaping speeds were also far superior. At the very least the Hulk of this thread would be capable of leaping in excess of mach 7000 which is 2, 382, 030 kilometers per hour or, 5, 328, 449.36 miles per hour unless I misunderstood what I got when I Googled these numbers, someone else should feel free to do the same if they think that I am in error.
Assuming that the numbers that I came up with are correct. Is it possible with CIS or no CIS for the Hulk to reach Thor that would be half a kilometer away, before Thor turns this into a clam bake? In my opinion he would be more than capable of doing so.
if this is the case, the Hulk would force this into a brawl, and beat the living mess out of Thor, based on how well he has done against a far inferior Savage Hulk in a fist fight.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor doesn't need a danger sense or computer like reactions to know that attacking from range is a good idea, nor does he need them to put distance between himself and the Hulk.
This answer in no way negates what I posted above. If you disagree with what i posted, prove it. Your statement does little but say that the Hulk would sit there and not react to the terms that are mentioned in forum rules regarding CIS being turned off. Is this CIS off rule only for Thor, or are both combatant allowed to partake in the free for all? Show me how Thor is going to whip up all of these exotic moves within micro seconds. If not you really have nothing. Reaction time has very much to do with this, a danger sense to know what the other is planning has much to do with this, and dictating what the other opponent will do and can do is another thing that Thor would need to possess in order to make this battle as one sided as some people are claiming that it would be. prove it within 100% that the Hulk could not turn this into a brawl.