Originally posted by Silent Master
Ok.Thor W/O Mjolnir vs Hulk W/O gamma energy, who wins?
Banner is like Doom in terms of cunning and scheming and like Tony Stark in terms of inventions (maybe even closer to Reed Richards, iirc).
Originally posted by janus77
Banner would absolutely slaughter Thor. Even Banner Jnr (Cho) knocked a mjolnir equipped Thor on his arse.Banner is like Doom in terms of cunning and scheming and like Tony Stark in terms of inventions (maybe even closer to Reed Richards, iirc).
Seriously???
You think, and let me get this right here, a human being, in a forum fight(so starting about 100m - or whatever the distance is - away) with no prep, no special exotic devices, can beat Thor, who even without Mjolnir in his hands can still control the weather, has his strength, combat speed and skills, and durability????
Really??
Like, truly??
Originally posted by DarkSaint85lol. I have that other kid on ignore. Pretty obvious why.
Seriously???You think, and let me get this right here, a human being,[b] in a forum fight
(so starting about 100m - or whatever the distance is - away) with no prep, no special exotic devices, can beat Thor, who even without Mjolnir in his hands can still control the weather, has his strength, combat speed and skills, and durability????Really??
Like, truly?? [/B]
Originally posted by Naija boy
Hulk demolishes him unless Thor is controlled by rage and can make "impenetrable" (lol)whirlwinds while simultaneously soulsucking and godblasting hulk at ftl speed. Otherwise HOtM hulk could probaly one shot classic thor given the average level of his durability.
How does Hulk demolish Thor if Thor exploits his vastly superior mobility and range?
Thor could keep out of Hulk's distance while sticking to weather manipulation primarily to beat Hulk as we know his high end storms/lightning/etc. is more than capable of damaging characters who are vastly superior to Hulk in terms of power and durabilty. That's without Thor utilizing all of his other random ass plot device like powers and just focusing on his primary one.
Just seems to me that the classic answer regarding Hulk is simply something along the lines of "he'll get stronger and no sell all of Thor's attack and eventually hit him". Anyone who thinks that Hulk won't be phased by Thor's most powerful attacks and abilities is pretty delusional, tbh.
I have a good question. What makes one mystical barrier stronger than another? The Hulk while roaming through the Crossroads was tricked into breaking through an impenetrable mystical barrier by the Puff collective (or something like that) that housed a very dangerous race of demons. At first he was unable to, but within a few hits, he was able to breach the barrier.
So what makes it impossible for HOTM Hulk to breach Thor's impenetrable whirl wind barrier? Do we know for certain that Thor's barrier is stronger than the other barriers that the Hulk has overcome? On top of all of that, HOTM Hulk is as everyone knows, much more powerful than he was at that particular time. My point? It may be possible.
Originally posted by Stoic
I have a good question. What makes one mystical barrier stronger than another? The Hulk while roaming through the Crossroads was tricked into breaking through an impenetrable mystical barrier by the Puff collective (or something like that) that housed a very dangerous race of demons. At first he was unable to, but within a few hits, he was able to breach the barrier.So what makes it impossible for HOTM Hulk to breach Thor's impenetrable whirl wind barrier? Do we know for certain that Thor's barrier is stronger than the other barriers that the Hulk has overcome? On top of all of that, HOTM Hulk is as everyone knows, much more powerful than he was at that particular time. My point? It may be possible.
I think its a different method of being impenetrable. One was a physical barrier with a certain hardness and durability - the other is made of air. You can't really smash that.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How does Hulk demolish Thor if Thor exploits his vastly superior mobility and range?Thor could keep out of Hulk's distance while sticking to weather manipulation primarily to beat Hulk as we know his high end storms/lightning/etc. is more than capable of damaging characters who are vastly superior to Hulk in terms of power and durabilty. That's without Thor utilizing all of his other random ass plot device like powers and just focusing on his primary one.
Just seems to me that the classic answer regarding Hulk is simply something along the lines of "he'll get stronger and no sell all of Thor's attack and eventually hit him". Anyone who thinks that Hulk won't be phased by Thor's most powerful attacks and abilities is pretty delusional, tbh.
For thor to get out of the range of HOTM world breaker hulk would entail him leaving the battle field quite frankly cuz even a thunderclap from this version of hulk would be able to easily cover the kmc battlefield and would certainly affect thor. HOTM hulk was also way more durable than regular hulk which is logical since he was way stronger, and so Id wager that hulk could take enough of thors long range weather attacks to be able to stun Thor with a long range attack of his own and get in a hit or two which is all he would need.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think its a different method of being impenetrable. One was a physical barrier with a certain hardness and durability - the other is made of air. You can't really smash that.
But the fundamental properties of both are mystical. Also you aren't taking into account that Mjolnir is one of the reasons why Thor's barrier is held in place to begin with, therefore it can be argued that there really in no difference, because Mjolnir, is a solid object, it has also been cut in half, more than once. Your explanation, while very good may not be correct. My point is that if there is a possibility that one barrier could be compromised by the Hulk's strength, what says that Thor's could not be?
Is there any hard proof supporting it being impossible? The Hulk after all broke through an ancient barrier that was thought to be impossible to break during the Crossroads saga.