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Silent Master Senior Member

That's why Thor would create a massive storm(including a flood) to keep the Hulk distracted before using this tactic.

The Sorrow Senior Member

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
If Thor really wants to avoid being touched by Hulk, well then yeah he could do that. Just like the Silver Surfer could do that if he wished.

Based on nothing except your opinion. The Hulk has tagged Surfer while flying at fast speeds, Thor is fast in travelling speed but his reaction speeds are no greater than the Hulks. In all their fights speed is never brought up as an issue, nor was is it an issue when Hulk fought Gladiator, Sentry, Hyperion, Genis Veil, Captain Marvel etc etc. Thor is no Surfer when it comes to versatility.

If you read the very first Hulk vs Thor fight, Thor creates an indestructible hurricane/vortex around him which Hulk could not break through. Nothing's changed, Hulk could still not break through that.

He couldn't break through it because Thor essentially created a dimensional rift around himself but Thor had to take it down so that he could continue the fight. It would protect him if he saw an attack coming but Thor isn't Superman or even Spiderman, he isn't going to telegraph everything. Remember this is how THOR would fight without restraint not how you would have him fight in that scenario.

Then theres the fact that he could fly(much much fatser than Hulk can leap), stay out of range, use floods, hurricanes and all sorts to keep Hulk away from him.

Thor can fly faster over longer distances sure but over short distances it's a non issue, the starting distance is roughly 1/3 of a mile, to close this distance is nothing for one who can jump far faster than sound. If Thor does try to fly away Hulk can thunderclap, throw huge debris to hit him or least distract him for a moment before catching him with a leap, and lol @ a flood or hurricane stopping Hulk. Even Savage Hulk had the presence of mind to jump to higher ground when Thor tried to drown him, your almost insulting the character by suggesting this will have any bearing in this fight.

Actually its you who is grossly underestimating what a CIS less Thor is capable of. And I dnt think Thor is going to tire out as easily as you make out.

I know exactly what a CIS off Thor is capable of. For example in the past he has summoned planetary storms while using an anti force bolt as he did against the Thanos clone, but he stood there and allowed Thor to summon his full power, Hulk won't be doing this. How do you think Thor is going to hold the World Breaker in one place long enough for him to unleash his full power, even IF he was somehow able to what makes you think it's going to stop someone who is far stronger, more durable and has a much more efficient HF than WWH? Sentry completely exhausted his power, tried different tactics and still lost. WBH healed from a severed arm instantly and smiled at planetary+ levels of damage, he is simply beyond Thor's "normal" levels even without restraint.

Loads of times. This shows how little you know about what Thor is capable of.

So why post this pointless response and dodge the question. Back up your claims with proof.

LOL Thats seriously wishful thinking. Thor will have no problem absorbing Hulk's energy, and its not going to create an opening.

Thor could easily absorb energy but he would have to actively do so, the bursts were expansive enough to be capable of destroying the planet. Thor isn't completely no selling that.

It would be the Power of his own gamma energy amplified and sent back with a Bolt of Anti-Force added to the power a thousand thousand hurricanes and lightning blasts attacking him. It would moat probably put Hulk down, so thats never a good tactic to use against Thor.

This is based on nothing but wild speculation you have no idea of how much punishment Hulk can take. Thor channeled all his lightning through his body amped into one huge blast and all it did was knock Nul into the sky. WBH>Nul. Even in Warriors madness his lightning only managed to momentarily stun an enraged Professor Hulk.

Oh what the Hulk's gna resist a soul drain now?? LOL LOL
Nothing I said is unsupported. Its all things we've seen Thor do at one time or another. If you'd actually read any Thor you would know this.

So we attribute a no limit fallacy because Thor has done it once we must assume it will work on every opponent? Ridiculous logic. I may aswell argue Hulk breaks Thor's hammer because a weaker Hulk broke an equivalent with brute strength.

I dnt know anyone who argues Thor is as strong or stronger than Hulk. But the Hulk fanboyism is crazy. The stips here clearly put the fight in Thor's hands, something that no Hulk fanboy here cares to admit.
I fully admit, in a CIS on fight, its either going to be a stalemate or Hulk is going to win. But not under these stips where Thor does everything he is capable of.

I don't really think anyone can argue Thor doesn't have the advantage with the stips and his varied powerset but sometimes raw power trumps versatility. CIS off doesn't mean Thor can suddenly bust out every attack he has ever done but never displayed since. Hulk has turned direction in mid-air before would you deem that usable too?

Not really. Its not a biased against Hulk, to say a CISless Thor could take him. A CIS less Thor can take pretty much anyone. But the Hulk fanboysim is just crazy. In the other thread people are arguing Hulk can take Dr. Strange at his best??! I mean come on!

No it's not biased but a lot of the arguements from the pro Thor camp is based on him becoming some super forum mode version of himself as it has done with Flash, Hal, Zoom, Voidtry etc this IS biased. I have no interest in going back and forth it's clearly pointless so I won't replying again, no offense to you but this thread has turned into nothing more than a powerset vs powerset debate as it always eventually does when Thor supporters try to claim Thor>Hulk.

Nietzschean Of The Dire Pride

I only recall Hulk intercepting Silver Surfer on his Surf board when SS was hovering in the sky not paying attention to the Hulk and not even being aware of him until he was tackled by Hulk.

Hulk later explains that he thought Silver Surfer could take him off planet .

DARTH POWER Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
From what I have seen so far is...Thor is going to fly around at super speeds while creating hurricanes and hail along with creating tornadoes and soul sucking at the same time and charging up a God blast while knocking Hulk up off of him creating a omniblast around his body.
This Thor is unbeatable.

Well thats kind of the point with a CISless Thor. Wouldn't you do that if you were Thor and had to fight Hulk??!

Originally posted by The Sorrow
It's in Thor's nature to brawl it's an essential part of his character, the way you are describing is a way Thor never fights and thus is impossible to show. If you want me to show you Hulk tagging fliers I will but at this point it's clear you are simply arguing who has the greater powerset in which Thor clearly does.

Well thats kind of the point of a CISless fight. Discuss the characters powerset, and not the way they normally fight. Im sure that was the intention of the OP.

Silent Master Senior Member

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Well thats kind of the point of a CISless fight. Discuss the characters powerset, and not the way they normally fight. Im sure that was the intention of the OP.

Hulk fans seem to think CIS off means that Thor will throw a couple extra lightning bolts while fightning in melee range.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

28 pages? Wow, it's only been like a week. A few skims and it's clear that an explosion of stupid has occurred though.

This fight is pretty straight forward, if this gets to close combat, Hulk should dominate. But it won't, this isn't a matter of opinion, it's simply a matter of recognizing the evidence objectively.

Two basic reasons why this won't happen:

1) His ability to fly. This cannot be overcome by Hulk leaping or anything of the sort, the Odinson has flown and maneuvered at speeds far faster than light. He has also accelerated his speed enormously in moments. The Hulk would need to have reflexes far superior to Thor in order to overcome this advantage. He doesn't, if anyone has greater reflexes, it's Thor.

2) Worst case scenario, he can create nigh impenetrable whirlwinds/force fields around him in order to stop him from getting in close. They are also independent once created and Thor can fight when they're up.

On top of that, there's Thor's ability to manipulate the weather. People seem to think that Thor's going to throw some normal sized hurricanes at the Hulk or something. If Thor keeps it within the bounds of the natural, yes Hulk will walk through everything. Unfortunately, Thor's weather abilities far outstrip mother nature, his affected high end Skyfather level beings by a noticeable amount. It will at the bare minimum slow down Hulk greatly.

Tbh, after recently reading the HoTM arc, Thor's weather manipulation is sufficient to stop the Hulk if we want to use high end feats. Lightning alone could get the job done.

In conclusion, taking into account everything Thor can do, the God Blast (And no, it doesn't weaken Thor in blast form, I'm not sure who said it but I remember reading this claim), random shit like soul sucking etc. then Thor takes this handily.

I'm a little busy with holidays (And Skyrim), so I can't go into more detail, or challenge anyone to a battle zone (Which I'm quite fond of at this point) but my schedule clears up by New Years.

TheHulk Retired Debater

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
28 pages? Wow, it's only been like a week. A few skims and it's clear that an explosion of stupid has occurred though.
This fight is pretty straight forward, if this gets to close combat, Hulk should dominate. But it won't, this isn't a matter of opinion, it's simply a matter of recognizing the evidence objectively.
Two basic reasons why this won't happen:
1) His ability to fly. This cannot be overcome by Hulk leaping or anything of the sort, the Odinson has flown and maneuvered at speeds far faster than light. He has also accelerated his speed enormously in moments. The Hulk would need to have reflexes far superior to Thor in order to overcome this advantage. He doesn't, if anyone has greater reflexes, it's Thor.
2) Worst case scenario, he can create nigh impenetrable whirlwinds/force fields around him in order to stop him from getting in close. They are also independent once created and Thor can fight when they're up.
On top of that, there's Thor's ability to manipulate the weather. People seem to think that Thor's going to throw some normal sized hurricanes at the Hulk or something. If Thor keeps it within the bounds of the natural, yes Hulk will walk through everything. Unfortunately, Thor's weather abilities far outstrip mother nature, his affected high end Skyfather level beings by a noticeable amount. It will at the bare minimum slow down Hulk greatly.
Tbh, after recently reading the HoTM arc, Thor's weather manipulation is sufficient to stop the Hulk if we want to use high end feats. Lightning alone could get the job done.
In conclusion, taking into account everything Thor can do, the God Blast (And no, it doesn't weaken Thor in blast form, I'm not sure who said it but I remember reading this claim), random shit like soul sucking etc. then Thor takes this handily.
I'm a little busy with holidays (And Skyrim), so I can't go into more detail, or challenge anyone to a battle zone (Which I'm quite fond of at this point) but my schedule clears up by New Years.

Dude you did not add anything.... 🙁

Silent Master Senior Member

Originally posted by TheHulk
Dude you did not add anything.... 🙁

Thor wins a vast majority, what else needs to be said?

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor wins a vast majority, what else needs to be said?

👆 pretty much

h1a8 Senior Member

I don't think anything Thor can do can hurt the Hulk. Plus using a godblast would only weaken Thor. All Thor can do is stay out of range of Hulk for an attempt at a stalemate. An unlucky thunderclap will seriously .uck Thor though, so watch out.

Edit: Wait a minute, how far can Thor go from the planet? Maybe he can go so far upwards and whirl the hammer than throw it at multiple times the speed of light to hit Hulk. Maybe this will hurt Hulk enough. But Hulk can destroy planets with single blows. That means he is as durable as Mjolnir if not more. Oh well, Thor must try to stalemate.

Silent Master Senior Member

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't think anything Thor can do can hurt the Hulk. Plus using a godblast would only weaken Thor. All Thor can do is stay out of range of Hulk for an attempt at a stalemate. An unlucky thunderclap will seriously .uck Thor though, so watch out.

Show a scan of the GB weakening Thor.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't think anything Thor can do can hurt the Hulk. Plus using a godblast would only weaken Thor.
That means he is as durable as Mjolnir if not more.

At this point, anything you say regarding Thor should be just ignored.

I think it'll save everyone some time if you just stop posting in Thor related threads.

cdtm Restricted

Than who would provide us with calcs? 😛

TheHulk Retired Debater

i dont' know if anyone saw this already but hey it's worth putting up. 🙂 http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2011/09/hulk-vs-thor.html

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by TheHulk
i dont' know if anyone saw this already but hey it's worth putting up. 🙂 http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2011/09/hulk-vs-thor.html

I do agree with a bulk of that article.

Hulk will obviously become stronger than Thor and that Thor is way overall more powerful.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't think anything Thor can do can hurt the Hulk. Plus using a godblast would only weaken Thor. All Thor can do is stay out of range of Hulk for an attempt at a stalemate. An unlucky thunderclap will seriously .uck Thor though, so watch out.
Edit: Wait a minute, how far can Thor go from the planet? Maybe he can go so far upwards and whirl the hammer than throw it at multiple times the speed of light to hit Hulk. Maybe this will hurt Hulk enough. But Hulk can destroy planets with single blows. That means he is as durable as Mjolnir if not more. Oh well, Thor must try to stalemate.

He's harmed people more durable and powerful than Hulk. If he's having seizures, sure. Good thing Thor can stay out of range nearly indefinitely. An unlucky anti-force, lightspeed Mjolnir toss, planetary storm, etc will seriously mess up Hulk, so watch out.

Maybe a multiple time the speed of light Mjolnir toss would hurt Hulk enough? Maybe? And he's as, possibly more durable than Mjolnir?

Lol. Wow. That is really all I can say.

Silent Master Senior Member

h1a8 seems to take pride in being wrong.

Igniz I reign supreme!

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't think anything Thor can do can hurt the Hulk. Plus using a godblast would only weaken Thor. All Thor can do is stay out of range of Hulk for an attempt at a stalemate. An unlucky thunderclap will seriously .uck Thor though, so watch out.
Edit: Wait a minute, how far can Thor go from the planet? Maybe he can go so far upwards and whirl the hammer than throw it at multiple times the speed of light to hit Hulk. Maybe this will hurt Hulk enough. But Hulk can destroy planets with single blows. That means he is as durable as Mjolnir if not more. Oh well, Thor must try to stalemate.

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Thor will use his insane combat speed to Combo to KO the Hulk 😛

Unless you can provide a scan of Hulk being everywhere, Thor will combo to KO the Hulk 😛

Damborgson King of the Damboys

Originally posted by Igniz

Thor will use his insane combat speed to Combo to KO the Hulk 😛
Unless you can provide a scan of Hulk being everywhere, Thor will combo to KO the Hulk 😛 [/B]

carver9 Senior Member

Thor fatigued himself wailing on Nul. He isn't doing a thing with his combat speed except getting killed. His best bet is to keep his distance.