CISless Surfer vs CISless Thor

Originally posted by h1a8
He can't soul suck someone with resistance that can black hole him first, hit him with the board at 1 million c first, trap the hammer in a field first, move around ftl blasting the hell out of him first, etc.

It also takes precious time to pray and perform this type of feat.It could be done if the Surfer were to be rendered dazed, but that seems unlikely. The Surfer actually has low level precognition, and without CIS he would be able to detect many of Thor's attacks before they are even launched. It's the reason why he and all of Galactus' other Heralds are able to move through a meteor storm faster than light without crashing.

Originally posted by Stoic
It also takes precious time to pray and perform this type of feat.It could be done if the Surfer were to be rendered dazed, but that seems unlikely. The Surfer actually has low level precognition, and without CIS he would be able to detect many of Thor's attacks before they are even launched. It's the reason why he and all of Galactus' other Heralds are able to move through a meteor storm faster than light without crashing.

Originally posted by Stoic
Recently when they fought, I didn't see either of them pulling their punches. I'm also not sure who really won that battle.

They looked dead even to me.

Originally posted by Stoic
It also takes precious time to pray and perform this type of feat.It could be done if the Surfer were to be rendered dazed, but that seems unlikely. The Surfer actually has low level precognition, and without CIS he would be able to detect many of Thor's attacks before they are even launched. It's the reason why he and all of Galactus' other Heralds are able to move through a meteor storm faster than light without crashing.

Re-read the issue of Thor where he killed Loki with this attack; no prayer required...

He literally pointed Mjolnir at Loki and willed it to happen...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Re-read the issue of Thor where he killed Loki with this attack; no prayer required...

He literally pointed Mjolnir at Loki and willed it to happen...

I can believe this, I just always thought that he performed some sort of ritual before soul rending Loki. You have the scans of the conflict? It was so long ago, that I can't remember all of the context to it.

Damn CISless is a tough one. I'll prolly roll with Norrin via astral plane or some weird shyte.

Carver's so butthurt.

Surfer's speed is the big problem but Thor's countered it before. Gonna go with Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
^Not a good example as superman has done many WTF things, not applicable to others. He has also punched out death, can thor do it too? Shields and durability are two different things. Surfer wins.

Tbh, while I don't think referencing others is something that needs to be done, based on what I've seen, Thor would almost certainly handle counter a black hole. Still, it's speculation.

Also, Thor's beat up death before. 🙂

Surfer 3-shots him, as he did BRB.

non-holding back Surfer without CIS would be something like he was against UniLord.

Surfer is just too fast and too powerful for Thor to grapple with.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I never denied that, can thor rub his hand together and seal a hole in space-time or whistle and break mind-control.

That's about as relevant as asking Superman if he can globally manipulate storms and stop them all at a moment's notice or if can tear holes in space-time and teleport virtually anywhere he pleases or if he can absorb energies capable of destroying galaxies and harmlessly discharge them as he see's fit.

And for the record, Thor literally fought his way back from death, too.

Oh damn. Il be honest. This one's tough to call. I mean as powerful as a CISless Thor is a CISless Surfer might be just as deadly.

Buuuttt.. Think Il go with Thor, simply because Mjolnir can absorb anything Surfer blasts at Thor. Think that just gives Thor the advantage over Surfer.

Going with Thor

Originally posted by iceman24567
Going with Thor

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That's about as relevant as asking Superman if he can globally manipulate storms and stop them all at a moment's notice or if can tear holes in space-time and teleport virtually anywhere he pleases or if he can absorb energies capable of destroying galaxies and harmlessly discharge them as he see's fit.

And for the record, Thor literally fought his way back from death, too.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer 3-shots him, as he did BRB.

non-holding back Surfer without CIS would be something like he was against UniLord.

Surfer is just too fast and too powerful for Thor to grapple with.

I don't understand these, I may just be a bit slow...

What does CISless mean? Does that not mean that they can use all of their powers?

In which case, isn't the phrase 'CIS off, no BFR allowed' an oxymoron?

With CIS off, surfer all day.

Originally posted by Naija boy
With CIS off, surfer all day.

^you are an idiot and I'd rather not engage you in any kind of discussion but for informative purposes I'll clarify why: 🙂

Surfer is a whole hell of a lot faster than Thor and with CIS off he gets to use that advantage to the fullest. Also Thor really has no answer to whacky tactics like black hole in the retina etc. Thor has some pretty broken moves of his own, but surfers superior speed and multitasking ability will ensure he gets his off first and can avoid thors ( since in this case, CIS off means who can use the most ridiculous move first) . And that will be all she wrote

This thread is designed for Surfer to win.

Surfer takes it