CISless Surfer vs CISless Thor

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Originally posted by Naija boy
^you are an idiot and I'd rather not engage you in any kind of discussion but for informative purposes I'll clarify why: 🙂

Surfer is a whole hell of a lot faster than Thor and with CIS off he gets to use that advantage to the fullest. Also Thor really has no answer to whacky tactics like black hole in the retina etc. Thor has some pretty broken moves of his own, but surfers superior speed and multitasking ability will ensure he gets his off first and can avoid thors ( since in this case, CIS off means who can use the most ridiculous move first) . And that will be all she wrote

surfer may be fast but he's not superman fast, hence I don't think speed will be a trump card

and CISless does not mean any tactics are valid...I really doubt surfer could create a black hole in the retina. I mean, then we can just say thor sucks the soul out of surfer.

^ Sucking surfers soul wont work but anyways reread the first line of my post.

recently a holding back Surfer did very well and stalemated a raging Thor , CIS off Surfer will beat Thor and i dont care about opinions or bias if you dont agree with my statement get off your a$$ and go read comics

Originally posted by Naija boy
^you are an idiot and I'd rather not engage you in any kind of discussion but for informative purposes I'll clarify why: 🙂

Surfer is a whole hell of a lot faster than Thor and with CIS off he gets to use that advantage to the fullest. Also Thor really has no answer to whacky tactics like black hole in the retina etc. Thor has some pretty broken moves of his own, but surfers superior speed and multitasking ability will ensure he gets his off first and can avoid thors ( since in this case, CIS off means who can use the most ridiculous move first) . And that will be all she wrote

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Originally posted by dmills
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Its always good to see you make a cameo appearance my man. Happy New Year!

Happy new year to you to man, hope everything is going good with you. Can't be on the forum to often these days due to real life workload and stuff but I love comics too much to stay away permanently.

Yea I Think I'm Going With Surfer.

CISless Surfer is unimaginable to me. The options are endless. Thor may have more brute power, but in the cislessverse, I don't see it as enough of an advantage to win the majority.

Jiminy Crickets, Norrin turned himself into snow! For best anything-goes powerset (other than magic), power cosmic gets my vote.

Going with Thor on this one.Silver Surfer had trouble with a wounded Thor.

A wounded Thor that was going for broke trying to kill him, whereas Surfer was simply fighting defensively. It was still a draw.

cisless = less of a moral code.

it doesn't mean "he fights the way you want him to".

Originally posted by CosmicComet
A wounded Thor that was going for broke trying to kill him, whereas Surfer was simply fighting defensively. It was still a draw.

Surfer wasn't fihgting defensivelt it was clear that both had a score to sttle from their early bout. A wounded Thor going for the kill would be more like the blood and thunder arc and we now how well surfer then then..

Surfer..he's far more versatile..

Thor is flat out more powerful, i'm picking Thor

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Surfer wasn't fihgting defensivelt it was clear that both had a score to sttle from their early bout. A wounded Thor going for the kill would be more like the blood and thunder arc and we now how well surfer then then..

Not really, it only looked like Thor was out for blood (as stated by himself in the book), Surfer looked like he was just trying to reason with him and fight defensively. Surfer even showed concern for Thor's wound, and Thor responded by saying something like, "I don't need your kindness" and throws him hammer at him. Showing kindness in battle IMO tends to mean you're not going full out.

Originally posted by vince_slice
Not really, it only looked like Thor was out for blood (as stated by himself in the book), Surfer looked like he was just trying to reason with him and fight defensively. Surfer even showed concern for Thor's wound, and Thor responded by saying something like, "I don't need your kindness" and throws him hammer at him. Showing kindness in battle IMO tends to mean you're not going full out.
that was right at the end, both Thor and Surfer stopped fighting at that point that same Surfer one panel before bull rushed Thor from outersapce and slamed Thor into the planet. That is hardly defesive...

Originally posted by DarkOdin
that was right at the end, both Thor and Surfer stopped fighting at that point that same Surfer one panel before bull rushed Thor from outersapce and slamed Thor into the planet. That is hardly defesive...

why even use that horrible writing as evidence? writers are scared to show who is really superior out of fear of angering fans.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
that was right at the end, both Thor and Surfer stopped fighting at that point that same Surfer one panel before bull rushed Thor from outersapce and slamed Thor into the planet. That is hardly defesive...

He slammed Thor into the planet because Thor attacked Galactus, and removed him away from the battle between Odin and Galactus. Sounds defensive to me.

Originally posted by h1a8
why even use that horrible writing as evidence? writers are scared to show who is really superior out of fear of angering fans.

How is that in of itself horrible writing? Because Surfer lost?

Thor's looked superior to Surfer more times than not when they've been pitted against one another. Or is every time that happens it's horrible writing in order to stem the backlash of angry fans?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How is that in of itself horrible writing? Because Surfer lost?

Thor's looked superior to Surfer more times than not when they've been pitted against one another. Or is every time that happens it's horrible writing in order to stem the backlash of angry fans?

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Originally posted by h1a8
why even use that horrible writing as evidence? writers are scared to show who is really superior out of fear of angering fans.

And whenever Thor(even when wounded) stalemated Silver Surfer, you often showed bias and state the writer is at fault.But the writer is okay with you when Thor is shown not being able to keep up with Mongoose(even though his a combination of super speed and agility).

Originally posted by DarkOdin
that was right at the end, both Thor and Surfer stopped fighting at that point that same Surfer one panel before bull rushed Thor from outersapce and slamed Thor into the planet. That is hardly defesive...
Except Surfer is usually being defensive and rarely goes all out with the intent to kill. He may fight back but he isn't going for broke.