Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How is that in of itself horrible writing? Because Surfer lost?Thor's looked superior to Surfer more times than not when they've been pitted against one another. Or is every time that happens it's horrible writing in order to stem the backlash of angry fans?
Now you are trolling. Why say irrelevant things? My comment was on the writing of the entire story and nothing on Surfer vs. Thor.
So are you saying that the writing wasn't horrible?
Originally posted by h1a8
Now you are trolling. Why say irrelevant things? My comment was on the writing of the entire story and nothing on Surfer vs. Thor.
So are you saying that the writing wasn't horrible?
I'm trolling? Not even close. Believe me, you'll know when I openly troll.
The dialogue was atrocious as was Thor's willingness to kill Surfer so openly, but in terms of the fighting, it wasn't horrible.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Surfer wasn't fihgting defensivelt it was clear that both had a score to sttle from their early bout. A wounded Thor going for the kill would be more like the blood and thunder arc and we now how well surfer then then..
Yes he was fighting defensively. He didn't want to fight Thor at all and only after he got fed up with Thor's offense did he actually start fighting back.
Thor was wounded, but it wasn't affecting his power levels, or his movement. He was fighting to kill. Surfer was not.
It was a draw.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm trolling? Not even close. Believe me, you'll know when I openly troll.The dialogue was atrocious as was Thor's willingness to kill Surfer so openly, but in terms of the fighting, it wasn't horrible.
Of course the fighting was horrible, or the lack of fighting I should say. No one showed what they really could do. Everyone was neutered.
Actually I thought Surfer looked slightly better IMO. But my comment had nothing to do with the fight. That is why I was offended at your insinuation.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Yes he was fighting defensively. He didn't want to fight Thor at all and only after he got fed up with Thor's offense did he actually start fighting back.Thor was wounded, but it wasn't affecting his power levels, or his movement. He was fighting to kill. Surfer was not.
It was a draw.
there was nothing defensive aboput the fight we didn't see Thor attacking Surfer and Surfer guarding then countering. We so the both of them exchanging blows.
Being wounded not effecting Thor is absurd. Now as to how much we don't know.
We do not know it was clear Thor wasn't 100% for the fight. He was in enough pain to cause hi m to sweat and moan before the battle even began. Know if Thor was 95% 85% or 75% of himself we have no clue.
Yes the battle was a draw however Thor did appear to have the better advantage over SS no harm since they are both high herald. And for the record until SS saw Thors wounds he was POED at Thor and wanted to fight.
Originally posted by quanchi112Correct however this time Thor already mad SS poed from their last exchange i will get my comic SS dialog was clear to show what mindset he was in
Except Surfer is usually being defensive and rarely goes all out with the intent to kill. He may fight back but he isn't going for broke.
Thanks for the scans.
Yeah I think the dialogue makes it clear Surfer was fighting defensively the whole time. He pleaded with Thor to stop fighting on multiple occasions: e.g., "don't", "wait", "It's never too late", etc.
Thor on the other hand verbally threaten to kill Surfer twice, and throwing insults at him like "silver bastard". Even after Surfer shows concern for his wound Thor throws his hammer at him saying: "and that was for your kindness, I need nothing spaceman, least of all your feelings" 😂
Why was Thor being such a jerk?
Originally posted by vince_sliceHEy now thats not fair SS got some very ownage in to
Thanks for the scans.Yeah I think the dialogue makes it clear Surfer was fighting defensively the whole time. He pleaded with Thor to stop fighting on multiple occasions: e.g., "don't", "wait", "It's never too late", etc.
Thor on the other hand verbally threaten to kill Surfer twice, and throwing insults at him like "silver bastard". Even after Surfer shows concern for his wound Thor throws his hammer at him saying: "and that was for your kindness, I need nothing spaceman, least of all your feelings" 😂
Why was Thor being such a jerk?
We come for you not earth not man-you
feel this you pompous a$$ .
let this be a lesson too you
Mercy is born to ride the cosmic winds.
It is funny how when BRB and SS fought
SS cheapshot BRB while they are talking and you get
SS stomps BRB , SS owned BRB. SS just fought smarter then Bill but then
Thor decides to pound on SS in a war waged on Asgard by Galactus. and the excuses pur out
Originally posted by DarkOdin
HEy now thats not fair SS got some very ownage in toWe come for you not earth not man-you
feel this you pompous a$$ .
let this be a lesson too you
Mercy is born to ride the cosmic winds.It is funny how when BRB and SS fought
SS cheapshot BRB while they are talking and you get
SS stomps BRB , SS owned BRB. SS just fought smarter then Bill but then
Thor decides to pound on SS in a war waged on Asgard by Galactus. and the excuses pur out
1. Surfer's board tactic wasn't cheap because it was used mid-battle not mid-conversation. Surfer and Bill were already engaged in a fight when he used that tactic so its perfectly viable.
2. If you're going to call Surfer cheap for using his board and attacking Bill from behind mid-combat, then what Thor did was 10x worse . Thor threw his hammer at Surfer's back while he was talking with Odin outside of combat. That's far cheaper and It's right there in the scans.
3. There are no excuses here and never were. Thor wasn't winning nor did he pound Surfer in. It was an obvious stalemate. Surfer pleading Thor to stop fighting and showing "kindness" mid-battle is clear sign Surfer was no where near blood lusted or out to kill. In fact he acted defensive the whole fight. Near the end he did get fed-up with Thor acting like a "pompous ass" though. 😂
Originally posted by vince_slice
1. Surfer's board tactic wasn't cheap because it was used mid-battle not mid-conversation. Surfer and Bill were already engaged in a fight when he used that tactic so its perfectly viable.2. If you're going to call Surfer cheap for using his board and attacking Bill from behind mid-combat, then what Thor did was 10x worse . Thor threw his hammer at Surfer's back while he was talking with Odin outside of combat. That's far cheaper and It's right there in the scans.
3. There are no excuses here and never were. Thor wasn't winning nor did he pound Surfer in. It was an obvious stalemate. Surfer pleading Thor to stop fighting and showing "kindness" mid-battle is clear sign Surfer was no where near blood lusted or out to kill. In fact he acted defensive the whole fight. Near the end he did get fed-up with Thor acting like a "pompous ass" though. 😂
1. Yes no denying that however the board was a great tactis but some people make it out that it showed SS way outclasssing BRB even thought the battle between them was pretty even up to that point.
2. There was no point once the 2nd fight started that SS was pleading Thor to stop. More so SS was angry that Thor would fight hima nd his master and durign the fight SS attacked Thor twice from behind. Once when Thor atatck Galactus then with the board.
3. The battle was a draw however it looked like Thor did better job at laying it into SS.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
1. Yes no denying that however the board was a great tactis but some people make it out that it showed SS way outclasssing BRB even thought the battle between them was pretty even up to that point.2. There was no point once the 2nd fight started that SS was pleading Thor to stop. More so SS was angry that Thor would fight hima nd his master and durign the fight SS attacked Thor twice from behind. Once when Thor atatck Galactus then with the board.
3. The battle was a draw however it looked like Thor did better job at laying it into SS.
1. Surfer himself stated Bill can't match him based on his own words after Bill was lying bloody beneath Surfer's feet. Even then the Surfer that fought Bill was holding back, apologizing and frowning while he was punching Bill's face in.
Remember Bill's Skuttlebutt ship A.I? In Godhunter it was calculating Bill's chances of accomplishing his mission against Galactus and it actually took into account whether or not Surfer held back into it's calculations.
2. Difference is Surfer did so during mid-combat, and repeatedly warned Thor to stop attacking him, again perfectly viable. When Thor attacked Surfer from behind, he did it outside of combat while Surfer was talking to his father, 10x cheaper. Being a pacifist and holding back is what Surfer's known for. Even Bill's A.I knows this.
3. I disagree, I don't think Thor looked better, but he was 100x more aggressive though, either way it looked split even to me.
Originally posted by vince_slice
1. Surfer himself stated Bill can't match him based on his own words after Bill was lying bloody beneath Surfer's feet. Even then the Surfer that fought Bill was holding back, apologizing and frowning while he was punching Bill's face in.Remember Bill's Skuttlebutt ship A.I? In Godhunter it was calculating Bill's chances of accomplishing his mission against Galactus and it actually took into account whether or not Surfer held back into it's calculations.
2. Difference is Surfer did so during mid-combat, and repeatedly warned Thor to stop attacking him, again perfectly viable. When Thor attacked Surfer from behind, he did it outside of combat while Surfer was talking to his father, 10x cheaper. Being a pacifist and holding back is what Surfer's known for. Even Bill's A.I knows this.
3. I disagree, I don't think Thor looked better, but he was 100x more aggressive though, either way it looked split even to me.
1. Well since BRB has the same exact powerset as Thor that is clearly not true as Thor has proven himself over Surfer. Plus that fact i don't recall skuttlebutt saying anything like thaat i have issue 1-3 and can't find 2 could you throw up a scan.
2. Surfer came into Asgard and threaten Odin and all of asgard and was charging up to attack Odin. An attack from all of Asgard is fair game at that point. when you enter a kingdom of gods and threathen their king you show expect their number 1 warrior is going to attack.
3. the battle showed Thor taking SS shots and still attacking strong SS was down from must of Thor blows heck Thor recovered faster then SS when SS crashed them both into the planet.
