The names i've seen so far with members making a case for.
Silver Surfer
Orion
Superman
Thor
Sentry
Names I expected to come up.
Members of the Flash Family (Barry, Wally)
Cyborg Superman
Elite Lanterns (Hal, Sinestro, Kyle)
The ones I am drafting.
Photon (Genis-Vell): Absolute biggest beast bar none. I have ranked as pound for pound # An unrivaled cosmic awareness, granting him knowledge of the universe as an open book, and with vast telepathic powers to boot. Vast energy manipulation at a photonic level. All these powers fueled by feeding him energy/matter from the universe itself.
Zemo w/moonstones: is the near equivalent to Dr. Doom with Surfers powers.
Shaman X-Man: Normally, psychics tend to be glass cannons, but when you can rebuild your body from scratch makes for a scary encounter. A psionic/psychic who's who can manipulate matter/energy, warp reality, tk bend space, and time... on top of the various telepathic applications. You dont see to many telepathic-precogs that can seemingly dial up info on the beat unless your a Silver Surfer - Genis-Vell.
Not sure where I rank him, be deff top in the top 10.
Re: Top Tier/Herald Class: Who is the #1 p4p?
Originally posted by "Id"
That's right, I am asking you KMC members under the Herald Classification. Just who is the #1 p4p character.If possible can you make a top 10 p4p ranking, explaining your reasons.
Go!
1. Surfer. He has the best combination of speed and is the most versatile.
2. Thor. He is highly versatile but doesn't have the speed.
3. Superman. He is the strongest and matches surfer in speed (if not succeeds). He is the most simplest which is an advantage only sometimes. The only problems with Superman is against great magical threats, against threats that can only be bfred to another dimension or something to defeat them, and against threats that can bfr him to another dimension (speed helps him here though). Sun dipping definitely amps him well but still doesn't give him bfr ability or ability not to be bfred (other than speed).
Originally posted by "Id"
That's right, I am asking you KMC members under the Herald Classification. Just who is the #1 p4p character.If possible can you make a top 10 p4p ranking, explaining your reasons.
Go!
In my humble opinion these gentlemen own the tier.
1. Genis
2. Silver Surfer
3. Thor
4. Superman
5. Orion
I have them as equals give or take. Any of them can and will get the job done.
Originally posted by ComicInVains
Please Explain, not that i mock your statement but i would like to hear how and why he is beyond herald.
Hulk is like Doomsday but more powerful. He can adapt...his strength can increase exponentially in a few seconds. His leaping is almost similar to flight...he can hit intangible beings, possess super speed, can breath in space...can shoot out planet destroying gamma energy. Can grow in size after being shrunk, can overcome matter manipulation. Can grip energy/intangible objects. Has a healing factor, has high end durability.
Hulk is just as versatile as any other Herald but he is far more powerful imo. He can take on beings that defeat teams and if he is losing, he can amp his physical stats up to match said opponents. Hulk is above Herald and is approaching skyfather levels "if he chose too". The only being I would give a win against current Hulk are beings like Zeus, Odin, Dormammu...you get my point.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is like Doomsday but more powerful. He can adapt...his strength can increase exponentially in a few seconds. His leaping is almost similar to flight...he can hit intangible beings, possess super speed, can breath in space...can shoot out planet destroying gamma energy. Can grow in size after being shrunk, can overcome matter manipulation. Can grip energy/intangible objects. Has a healing factor, has high end durability.Hulk is just as versatile as any other Herald but he is far more powerful imo. He can take on beings that defeat teams and if he is losing, he can amp his physical stats up to match said opponents. Hulk is above Herald and is approaching skyfather levels "if he chose too". The only being I would give a win against current Hulk are beings like Zeus, Odin, Dormammu...you get my point.
he can project gamma energy? when was this?
also gotta serious question...since u just placed hulk as a trans-level being r u saying u feel that any feats that high heralds have accomplished he can replicate? im just trying to assuage your viewpoint
Originally posted by dmills
P4P takes more into consideration then just power/powerset I'm guessing? What are some of the other factors that you're looking for?
Well right now, just throw names out, and state why you think they would belong in the top p4p league.
I am looking at how combat effective they are, against all oppositions.
What I plan to do, is get 20 names. Mimic the boxing p4p ranking tracking down the last 15 fights of each character, and determine lose/won a versus topic. This way you can get a hard data, to compare to its abilities, and the overall acceptance in the KMC community.
Originally posted by "Id"
Well right now, just throw names out, and state why you think they would belong in the top p4p league.I am looking at how combat effective they are, against all oppositions.
What I plan to do, is get 20 names. Mimic the boxing p4p ranking tracking down the last 15 fights of each character, and determine lose/won a versus topic. This way you can get a hard data, to compare to its abilities, and the overall acceptance in the KMC community.
Cool.
Aside from the simple ones (Thor, Supes, Surfer)
Majestic- What you get when you cross the power of a heavyweight with the speed and precision of a lightweight? You get Lord Majestros. Able to wield both sledgehammer or scalpel with equal skill, we've seen the man do everything from move planets, to rewriting the programming of self aware kryptonian artifacts with laser vision, the guy definitely deserves to be mentioned in any pound for pound conversations.
Captain Atom- Quite possibly the best fighter that nobody knows about, but by the time his current run is done he may very well sit at the top of this list. He's been that damn impressive.
Nova Prime- A true light heavyweight. Not known for his punching power, but perhaps no one at the herald level does more with less then Richard Rider. With his combination of speed, power, versatility and mental toughness, he has managed to amass quite the impressive record for himself during the last few years. After being featured in some of the biggest fights in the game over the years, an unfortunate freak injury forced him out of the game for awhile, but according to his camp, word is that he's planning a huge comeback in 2012.
I gave my picks before, but I'll take the thread with a different perspective:
If this is about "Who can do the most with what they have" (inside the Hight Herald Lvl tier), then, this is my new list:
1- Superman
2- Hulk
3- Thor
4- Hal Jordan
5- Nova Prime
I still think Surfer has the potential to shit all over most of them, especially Superman, because his powerset is taylor made to **** him up, but he doesn't go all out enough and doesn't use his potential at the fullest but in rare occasions.
Those 5 cats above use everything they have, and kick epic amounts of ass.