Originally posted by biensalsa
I believe Thor can react to speedsters like Mongoose, but I doubt He can react to the type of speeds Gladiator can dish out IF Gladiator is moving at a peak or taxing speed for him.And this is the example I mentioned yesterday PR.
Thor and his group are using time dilatation to move around
While returning from an interstellar travel Gladiator catches a glimpse of shadows moving at Super speed.
Gladiator bull rushes Thor who is on time dilatation, Gladiator has to be moving at extreme speeds in order for him to be able to see Thor and his group. So basically here Gladiator had the handicap and still managed to bull rush Thor who has the advantage of time dilatation.
Here is the confirmation that Gladiator was moving at Hyper Speeds all that time.
This is why I do not believe Thor can handle a speed blitz delivered at that level of speed, with out external help
BTW, This is not canon for Gladiator anymore as this became a possible future and probably is another universe in the MU, But this is 616 Thor
During that time it was Canon for the character until the future changed. It was the real Gladiator that did those fts but after the mission was completed, it became a past existence. So its still Canon in a way.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Before the divide, yes.
By making a different choice it does not change a characters abilities, unless stated. obviously Hollywood is not current Wonderman because a variety of different circumstances occurred altering 616 Wonderman's structure; however, no such circumstances affected Gladiator. Gladiator is still the same Gladiator physically, divergent future or not.
Originally posted by I play triangle
I don't read Xmen comics, I'm assuming that's the Beast you mean. I couldn't tell you, apologies; However, as a rule if it is simply a divergent timeline where everything was the same including powers etc. until the divergent point then, yes.
I see your point - for example, just because its a different timeline doesn't mean for example that Batman suddenly has a GL ring (unless of course, it was explicitly stated as such). He's still a peak human, with peak human stats, with training and gadgets - Batman is Batman, in other words.
But even though his powerSET is the same, his powerLEVEL may be different, and that is what people are arguing here.
Originally posted by I play triangle
By making a different choice it does not change a characters abilities, unless stated. obviously Hollywood is not current Wonderman because a variety of different circumstances occurred altering 616 Wonderman's structure; however, no such circumstances affected Gladiator. Gladiator is still the same Gladiator physically, divergent future or not.
But how do you know that?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I see your point - for example, just because its a different timeline doesn't mean for example that Batman suddenly has a GL ring (unless of course, it was explicitly stated as such). He's still a peak human, with peak human stats, with training and gadgets - Batman is Batman, in other words.But even though his powerSET is the same, his powerLEVEL may be different, and that is what people are arguing here.
Unless something happened to either increase or decrease his power level at or after the point the timeline diverged, nope, it should be the same. A good example would be the classic Xmen days of future past. Wolverine stayed Wolverine, even with Sentinels everywhere, because the world had taken a different path, the characters in it were still the same characters. Divergent timeline does not = Elseworld, it's not semantics, they are very different things.
Originally posted by -Pr-
But how do you know that?
See above.
