Originally posted by Parmaniac
This is how I have it in mind: Namor wanted to take on Sentry, Sentry dashed into him kinda BFRed both of them Namor went defensive till Emma used a plot backdoor to mindrape Sentry.EDIT: I could be wrong I would appreciate someone posting the fight.
Defensive? Only because he had no choice. Sentry was kind of toying with him in my opinion. Teaching him a lesson. I cant post the scans though and I admit its been a long time since I read it.
Superman beats both of them everytime in my opinion unless Aquaman fries his brain.
I know thats what I meant by "idk how long it would take to depower sups"........
even if he stores it if hes constantly using it and not storing any more to "refill" he would eventually lose his powers the problem is idk how long it would take to accomplish this task. I really doubt they could do it before he beat them. I was just thinking outside the box lol
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I could see maybe getting sups to the bottom of the ocean to deprive his sunlight exposure to weaken him but that would take a lot of distraction. Id say AM summons the entire ocean of creatures to help but idk how long it would take to "depower" sups.
Last time supes got deprived of power by lack of exposure, it took a while. Like as in days, weeks, etc.... unless there is red solar radiation involved, it takes a long time to de-power supes.
Because in JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice, they were trapped in a magical dimension in which time worked differently and there was no sun. It was the equivalent of a couple weeks, but felt like an hour or so iirc, and Superman still retained a decent degree of super strength, durability and speed. Also, even then, magic was involved.
So with all of this said, to get him to a manageable level, they would both have to drag him to the bottom of the sea, and hold him there for a couple weeks imo. Even then, if he drills through the ocean floor, he can still absorb geo-thermal energy to replenish his powers like he did in the "Camelot Falls" arc with Khyber. Supes has some odd energy absorption feats when he's in dire straits.
Originally posted by Sirius77
Last time supes got deprived of power by lack of exposure, it took a while. Like as in days, weeks, etc.... unless there is red solar radiation involved, it takes a long time to de-power supes.Because in JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice, they were trapped in a magical dimension in which time worked differently and there was no sun. It was the equivalent of a couple weeks, but felt like an hour or so iirc, and Superman still retained a decent degree of super strength, durability and speed. Also, even then, magic was involved.
So with all of this said, to get him to a manageable level, they would both have to drag him to the bottom of the sea, and hold him there for a couple weeks imo. Even then, if he drills through the ocean floor, he can still absorb geo-thermal energy to replenish his powers like he did in the "Camelot Falls" arc with Khyber. Supes has some odd energy absorption feats when he's in dire straits.
lol well thanks for the education! That's rather interesting...I had no idea it would take that long or of his Geo-Thermal absorption ability.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Honestly, based off of Namor's showings against foes such as Hercules and Hulk and with Orin to back him up, I'm not sure how Superman goes about easily beating the two of them together.He'd get a slim majority at best.
Arthur is very good against temperature extremes, but heat vision is a whole other ball game. And his telepathy isn't going to do much. Clark won't be much faster than him under-water, but Superman's strength advantage should be enough to deal with anything Arthur can throw at him, especially if he goes about making vortexes (which would negate any army summoning Arthur does).
Namor isn't going to fare much better if Superman is fighting in anything other than punching bag mode.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Arthur is very good against temperature extremes, but heat vision is a whole other ball game. And his telepathy isn't going to do much. Clark won't be much faster than him under-water, but Superman's strength advantage should be enough to deal with anything Arthur can throw at him, especially if he goes about making vortexes (which would negate any army summoning Arthur does).Namor isn't going to fare much better if Superman is fighting in anything other than punching bag mode.
yep.
Originally posted by partiallyinsane
I really think u guys are low balling Arthur's tp. If he can take down high level tp users like white martians with ease than even supe's psionic defenses should not prove too difficult to break through.
the white martians weren't exactly locked in a battle of wills with him at the time, though.
Originally posted by partiallyinsane
I don't have a scan but I think Arthur's highest quantified speed feat to date put him at ten thousand feet per second. The scan can be found in the aquaman respect thread on this site.
against the society?
Originally posted by -Pr-
the white martians weren't exactly locked in a battle of wills with him at the time, though.against the society?
The white martians have lived their entire lives in a telepathic society. Given that fact it would be ludicrous to think that they do not have very formidable psychic defenses up at pretty much all times especially given the violent nature/culture of their race. Given that each white martian is an extremely powerful and experienced telepath as soon as Arthur began to telepathically assault the white martian it would have attempted to telepathically defend itself. If someone is giving you a seizure you are going to be putting all of the will power that you can muster into stopping that individual, of course due to the seizure one would not be able to summon as much willpower as one normally would be able to. It is the fact that the white martian was so easily defeated that made that feat so impressive. I have a theory that the reason that Arthur's tp was so effective in that situation was because it can bypass the conscious mind and go straight to the more "primitive' subconscious areas of the brain to attack in places that consciousness, and willpower, do not affect or at least have a vastly more difficult time affecting (I know certain characters such as batman have learned to partially control the rate at which their hearts beat so that is one example of consciousness affecting what is normally controlled subconsciously however there are many other important systems that are controlled by the subconscious brain that characters such as batman/superman etc. have not been shown to be able to control so those areas would be more vulnerable to attack.)
That feat was shown in JLA #24 which was published in 1999. It is actually unclear whether it was ten thousand feet per second or twenty thousand feet per second. The text accompanying the art reads as follows: simulations suggest that the sea king's current power levels permit a depth to air leap of 10,000 feet per second at full range however, he'll have to travel directly up from twenty thousand feet.
In the scene Arthur is accompanied GL Kyle to the bottom of the ocean, which apparently in whatever part of the ocean they are in is located about twenty thousand feet below sea level, to check out a signal relayed from the shaggy man's containment tube that the tube is being tampered with. When they get there they find the super powered soldier warmaker one lifting the tube off of the sea floor. In order to stop Aquaman and GL from interfering the military team that is overseeing the operation mounts a microwave offensive broadcasting in a range of frequencies that disrupts human thought patterns. GL is affected and Arthur is not. GL's sub construct begins to crack because his willpower is no longer sustaining it. Aquaman, knowing that GL will be crushed by the pressure of the water around him if his ring cuts out, takes hold of Kyle and swims directly upward at either 10,000 or 20,000 feet per second. It is clear that he is swimming and not leaping from the sea floor because his feet are not touching it when he realizes Kyle is in danger.