Aquaman/Namor vs Superman

That or straight up out-classing both of them in physical stats.

Superman's other plethora of abilities is more damning to either of them over his physical attributes, imo.

Originally posted by Sirius77
That or straight up out-classing both of them in physical stats.

And this is why I said what I said. Namor have all of these fts but it still holds no weight here...doesnt make sense. Going by Namor fts, he could give Superman HELL.

Originally posted by carver9
And this is why I said what I said. Namor have all of these fts but it still holds no weight here...doesnt make sense. Going by Namor fts, he could give Superman HELL.

Only if Superman ignores a bunch of his powers.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Only if Superman ignores a bunch of his powers.

even if he did superman's durability and high end strength fts dwarf namor's.

Originally posted by carver9
And this is why I said what I said. Namor have all of these fts but it still holds no weight here...doesnt make sense. Going by Namor fts, he could give Superman HELL.

Name the feats that would "give superman hell." I'm interested.

He once hurt the Hulk, so...

Originally posted by Sirius77
Name the feats that would "give superman hell." I'm interested.

Giving high end beings fits. Hell, he even had Ironman scared Shi***** of facing him and Namor caught up with him and ripped the armor completely off of him. Namor is a high tier being when it comes to strength and saying that he can't give Superman trouble is ignoring the characters history.

Like you're ignoring Superman's?

But please, define "trouble".

Originally posted by -Pr-
Like you're ignoring Superman's?

But please, define "trouble".

I'm not...Namor would give "any" Herald fits, not just Superman...Namor has the fts.

What I mean by trouble is "give him a run for his money" but since Superman is overall more powerful, he would win.

Carver's not wrong -almost stopped typing right there and then- Namor definitely has the showings to support giving Superman a good fight.

But Superman still takes a healthy majority. His taking on a more agile, possibly stronger Mongul Jr. who can fly, a good tough fight, but the man of steel will still put him down. I'm not taking into account heat vision which should be crippling.

Originally posted by carver9
Giving high end beings fits. Hell, he even had Ironman scared Shi***** of facing him and Namor caught up with him and ripped the armor completely off of him. Namor is a high tier being when it comes to strength and saying that he can't give Superman trouble is ignoring the characters history.

What high-end beings?

So because he beat up ironman, he can give superman trouble...

Originally posted by Sirius77
What high-end beings?

So because he beat up ironman, he can give superman trouble...

He has given Hulk fits, given Thor fits, outright stomped Super Skrull ( http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7346/namorfeat475ib.gif), ripped through Ironman, defeated Herc, fought Sentry twice and stalemated him. He is a consistent character. He can hang with Superman and saying that he can't is ignoring his showings. The question should be "who hasn't Namor given a fight too".

Originally posted by carver9
He has given Hulk fits, given Thor fits, outright stomped Super Skrull ( http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7346/namorfeat475ib.gif), ripped through Ironman, defeated Herc, fought Sentry twice and stalemated him. He is a consistent character. He can hang with Superman and saying that he can't is ignoring his showings. The question should be "who hasn't Namor given a fight too".

"Giving a fight" isn't the same as pulling wins.

Originally posted by carver9
He has given Hulk fits, given Thor fits, outright stomped Super Skrull ( http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7346/namorfeat475ib.gif), ripped through Ironman, defeated Herc, fought Sentry twice and stalemated him. He is a consistent character. He can hang with Superman and saying that he can't is ignoring his showings. The question should be "who hasn't Namor given a fight too".

Originally posted by Sirius77
"Giving a fight" isn't the same as pulling wins.

I never said he would beat Superman but he WILL give him trouble and lots of it. Lol at you not thinking Ironman isn't powerful...Ironman has proven time and time again that he is a mid Herald and sometimes operate on a high Herald stance when push comes to serve.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said he would beat Superman but he WILL give him trouble and lots of it. Lol at you not thinking Ironman isn't powerful...Ironman has proven time and time again that he is a mid Herald and sometimes operate on a high Herald stance when push comes to serve.

I don't follow ironman, but based upon what I know, I wouldn't equate regular ironman to mid herald. He's taken on some pretty dangerous people with the avengers, but that doesn't automatically put him there.

Originally posted by carver9
He has given Hulk fits, given Thor fits, outright stomped Super Skrull ( http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7346/namorfeat475ib.gif), ripped through Ironman, defeated Herc, fought Sentry twice and stalemated him. He is a consistent character. He can hang with Superman and saying that he can't is ignoring his showings. The question should be "who hasn't Namor given a fight too".

Originally posted by Sirius77
I don't follow ironman, but based upon what I know, I wouldn't equate regular ironman to mid herald. He's taken on some pretty dangerous people with the avengers, but that doesn't automatically put him there.

Im not talking about Ironman fts with the Avengers...Im talking about his solo fts and his fights against Surfer, Thor, Hulk and numerous of others.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Should I give you a list of superman's feats? Are we using only namor's high end feats? Thor koed namor in a single punch while it was raining.

What you are failing to realize is "Namor fighting against top tiers are average showings, not high showings".