Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI (being the other fellow) proved what Mangog has done, with scans in that other thread.
lol.... NO.. I was talking to another fellow on the previous page who claimed that Mangog has defeated the entire asgard civilization including Odin and Thor with little effort and no damage. I've never read any such thing, but figured, since you're up the Asgardians anal cavity like on other.. I figured you would produce the scans or issue numbers.
Very Weak.
Understand, there is a difference between "debating" and "arguing".
I understand that many of you are all excited about discovering Thanos!
And, you think he's just just super-neat and I'm very happy for you.
But, there are years and years of history, on-panel, that I see getting ignored in these forums every day. There are characters and feats and statements that do not always jibe with the brief fraction of time you have been reading these books.
Unless Marvel performs a "Crisis" the way DC did, all those old characters, feats and statements still apply. Whether you like it or not. Whether you have read them or not.
Find a way to read them, then you can debate about old characters like Mangog without looking like a fanboy.
But, don't argue first, without knowing ALL the facts. Demanding scans from somebody and STILL never having the maturity or honor to recognize what you see.
Respect the effort. Respect the old panels.
Some of us enjoy sharing our knowledge and scans of old books and past events of interest. And, some of you make some of us question why. 😉
Originally posted by JakeTheBankYup. Thanos is a great character. Let's hope they don't keep upping his power. Then we wouldn't get to read all the cool ways he uses strategy, will and knowledge to defeat more powerful foes and gain goals that are way out of reach for most characters.
Tbf, I have a really difficult time imagining what Thanos could do to stop Classic Mangog. I'm not part of the "Thanos Brigade" or anything, but I do give Thanos credit where credit is due.
And, let's hope that Hollywood Life doesn't ruin him in the near future.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Yup. Thanos is a great character. Let's hope they don't keep upping his power. Then we wouldn't get to read all the cool ways he uses strategy, will and knowledge to defeat more powerful foes and gain goals that are way out of reach for most characters.
All hail, "Thanos Quest"!And, let's hope that Hollywood Life doesn't ruin him in the near future.
I dont see Thanos beating a being like Classic Mangog straight up, he doesn't have enough power with the like of Classic Odin too challenge Mangog, it Odin death too beat him. Classic MAngog wins!!!
What would Thanos do to outsmart him?
Thanos outsmarted and outmaneuvered Thor w/PG because of his experimental weapon he just happened to have on hand in the facility, which is the very definition of plot device, imho.
EDIT: According to OP, there's no tech allowed and fight takes place in Asgard, so under his own power, not sure what Thanos could do to beat him.
What do you mean you don't know how he would win.. YOu act like Thanos isn't powerful and good at h2h or blasting.. He's beat high heralds with his bare hands with ease to within an ich of their lives... He's one shot killed High Herald...You act like Thanos isn't strong... He's treated brutes known for their strength like weak feebs. You act like Thanos isn't versatile in his powers... you act like Thanos can't n wouldn't use the one weapon that he is exponentionally superior at, than the best feats for Mangog against Odn and Thor... His intelligence. To say you don't see what he could do.... makes me believe you don't know all of the above.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What do you mean you don't know how he would win.. YOu act like Thanos isn't powerful and good at h2h or blasting.. He's beat high heralds with his bare hands with ease to within an ich of their lives... He's one shot killed High Herald...You act like Thanos isn't strong... He's treated brutes known for their strength like weak feebs. You act like Thanos isn't versatile in his powers... you act like Thanos can't n wouldn't use the one weapon that he is exponentionally superior at, than the best feats for Mangog against Odn and Thor... His intelligence. To say you don't see what he could do.... makes me believe you don't know all of the above.
The hell? 😬 How do I act like Thanos isn't powerful or good at H2H and blasting? I know full well what Thanos has done to High Heralds and how smart he is and all that Titan goodness. Don't get silly and indignant because I asked a legitimate question.
Barring plot device, tech, and prep, how does Thanos' intelligence beat Classic Mangog here? Being smarter than someone is great, but you need to, y'know, have to be able to do something about it.
So let me get this straight... I'm suppose to come up with a way in which Marvel's writers or anybody who have Thanos beat Mangog? Is that really what you're asking me? When you're a certified genuis like Thanos, Doom, Reed, Batman... you come up with ways via your intelligence.. the fact that you're asking me what good that would do or how he would do it... is well silly if you don't mind me saying. I like you Jake, but asking me to come up with the way Thanos intelligence would play out is impossible. Yet, we know it often does in comics time and time again.. just like the people I listed. To say it wouldn't be a factor or help is completly ignoring the character and his history.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So let me get this straight... I'm suppose to come up with a way in which Marvel's writers or anybody who have Thanos beat Mangog? Is that really what you're asking me? When you're a certified genuis like Thanos, Doom, Reed, Batman... you come up with ways via your intelligence.. the fact that you're asking me what good that would do or how he would do it... is well silly if you don't mind me saying. I like you Jake, but asking me to come up with the way Thanos intelligence would play out is impossible. Yet, we know it often does in comics time and time again.. just like the people I listed. To say it wouldn't be a factor or help is completly ignoring the character and his history.
First of all, lol at including Batman in the group of people you mentioned. 😛
Secondly, and on a more serious note, yes, it's a very valid question. Let's use Mr. Reed Richards himself as an example. He's arguably the smartest guy in comics and given the resources and time to do so, can, and has, saved the multiverse and stopped almost any threat imaginable. But Reed still needs the time to enact such a plan as well as the means to execute it. Put Reed against Thor in a fight and give him prep before hand and it's going to be spite against Thor. If he doesn't have that prep time and/or special equipment on hand, all of his intelligence will mean jack shit.
Thanos is decidedly more powerful than Reed, but the same concept still applies. His intelligence is a defining trait for him, but without prep time and without tech, how does that benefit him so greatly against Classic Mangog? If you gave him prep and whatnot, I'd be the first to assume that Thanos could beat him, but dropped in the middle of Asgard with just his bare hands and powers at disposal, I'm not seeing how Thanos' intelligence winds up beating Mangog. Since you're the one claiming it's a huge boon for Thanos - which it is in the general sense - it's up to you to at least put forth a semi-plausible scenario in which Thanos' intelligence beats Mangog in a direct confrontation. Just citing "He's Thanos" or a variation of it doesn't cut it for me, at least.
I really don't think I'm asking for much here.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
First of all, lol at including Batman in the group of people you mentioned. 😛Secondly, and on a more serious note, yes, it's a very valid question. Let's use Mr. Reed Richards himself as an example. He's arguably the smartest guy in comics and given the resources and time to do so, can, and has, saved the multiverse and stopped almost any threat imaginable. But Reed still needs the time to enact such a plan as well as the means to execute it. Put Reed against Thor in a fight and give him prep before hand and it's going to be spite against Thor. If he doesn't have that prep time and/or special equipment on hand, all of his intelligence will mean jack shit.
Thanos is decidedly more powerful than Reed, but the same concept still applies. His intelligence is a defining trait for him, but without prep time and without tech, how does that benefit him so greatly against Classic Mangog? If you gave him prep and whatnot, I'd be the first to assume that Thanos could beat him, but dropped in the middle of Asgard with just his bare hands and powers at disposal, I'm not seeing how Thanos' intelligence winds up beating Mangog. Since you're the one claiming it's a huge boon for Thanos - which it is in the general sense - it's up to you to at least put forth a semi-plausible scenario in which Thanos' intelligence beats Mangog in a direct confrontation. Just citing "He's Thanos" or a variation of it doesn't cut it for me, at least.
I really don't think I'm asking for much here.
Well, that is just it.. you're forgetting about the times that Reed didn't need prep and had to come up with stuff on the fly. Same iwth your beloved Doom. Sure they are masters of prep, but they can also think on their feet so to speak... They haven't just done so with Prep. Same with Thanos.... in his showing against the Hunger this is perfectly seen... with foreign tech he didn't know and limited time.. he came up with the way to beat somebdoy Galactus couldn't stop. Part of Thanos quest wasn't just all prep.. he had to think on his feet to come up with ways to win.
Actually lets take a close look at this... so what exactly would Magog do.. if Thanos just stays in the air and start blasting Mangog? What is mangog going to do if Thanos just teleports away everytime mangog gets close and just starts blasting him some more... trying to drain his anger from him... using TP.. matter manipulate the land around mangog or try it on mangog personally... What exactly is mangog going to do? Just pound the ground in anger like the dumb brute he is. Mangog would never touch Thanos if Thanos didn't allow it. He could just stay away and stay away.. with a mere gesture send him away... So you tell me, how does mangog touch, let alone beat a thanos fighting smart using all of his abilities?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The hell? 😬 How do I act like Thanos isn't powerful or good at H2H and blasting? I know full well what Thanos has done to High Heralds and how smart he is and all that Titan goodness. Don't get silly and indignant because I asked a legitimate question.Barring plot device, tech, and prep, how does Thanos' intelligence beat Classic Mangog here? Being smarter than someone is great, but you need to, y'know, have to be able to do something about it.
Elsewhere on these boards, I just posted a bunch of scans showing this very thing.
Mangog > Odin > Thanos
Originally posted by HorrificusWhen has Thnaos jumped into battle to get beaten silly ? Odin is greater than Mangog as well.
Correct, all the way around.
To state that Thanos would win by outssmarting and outmanuevering is very shaky. Thanos is just as guilty as any other Marvel character, of brutishly jumping into combat. And, getting beaten silly.Elsewhere on these boards, I just posted a bunch of scans showing this very thing.
Mangog > Odin > Thanos
Originally posted by quanchi112When Thanos jumped into battle against Odin, he was beaten silly, sad, sideways and sticky.
When has Thnaos jumped into battle to get beaten silly ? Odin is greater than Mangog as well.
And, why say that Odin is greater than Mangog when Mangog has defeated him and Odin has said he cannot defeat Mangog?
Originally posted by HorrificusThanos was there to save Thor from himself and Odin jumped into battle without knowing the situation you constantly misrepresent what happens on panel. Thanos still wasn't put down while simple spells have defeated Mangog as has Thor himself.
When Thanos jumped into battle against Odin, he was beaten silly, sad, sideways and sticky.And, why say that Odin is greater than Mangog when Mangog has defeated him and Odin has said he cannot defeat Mangog?
Hell, a Thanos clone ordered him around like a servant.