Originally posted by -Pr-
I honestly think he could beat Sinister.This is a guy that's taken on gods, demons, and an entire Justice League roster (albeit one very different from the standared lineup). Sinister would have a hell of a time with him on a normal day. And Apocalypse isn't one-shotting him, not if we go by average portrayals.
And Arthur's telepathy is more impressive than Apocalypse's, which you could argue barely exists in the first place.
Either Sinister or Apoc can reflect AM's psibolt back at him like they've done on panel before. In Sinister's case, he'd reflect it back on AM and multiply it 10 times, like he did vs X-Man (who IMHO is a FAR superior Psi than AM).
AM is by far the weakest link in this match up.
Originally posted by zopzop
Either Sinister or Apoc can reflect AM's psibolt back at him like they've done on panel before. In Sinister's case, he'd reflect it back on AM and multiply it 10 times, like he did vs X-Man (who IMHO is a FAR superior Psi than AM).AM is by far the weakest link in this match up.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Aquaman resisted starro's mind control . That's quite good but IIRC there was some context you are leaving about sinister beating nate. Arthur may be a weak link here, but j'onn and maxima are enough powerful to win by themselves. Arthur is just as a bonus here who can go toe to toe with anyone in team 2 for quite a while. Nobody in team 2 is stomping arthur.
Apoc or Sinister FOR SURE stomp AM. Also, resisting Starro is nice and all but what's that got to do with Apoc or Sinister reflecting AM's psi bolt back at him (and in Sinister's case magnifying it 10 times before doing so)?
AM, the weakest link, is on Team 1. A character with a weakness to a common energy attack (fire) is on Team 1. NO ONE on Team 2 has any weaknesses that exploitable by Team 1.
This isn't hard people.
Originally posted by zopzop
Oh please. Even "only" his Jean and Prof. X TP feats are valid, it's still more than enough for him to ignore any of Team 1's TP efforts. Against Jean, he REFLECTED her TP attack back on her, against Prof. X he straight up PSI Blasted his @$$.
Even if Apocalypse has questionable telepathy. Poccy has unquestionably strong mental defenses, per history (to this date, Poccy has no sold mental phuckery) - to the most recent revelation that Apocalypse Celestial tech fortifies his mind.
Originally posted by zopzop
Apoc or Sinister FOR SURE stomp AM. Also, resisting Starro is nice and all but what's that got to do with Apoc or Sinister reflecting AM's psi bolt back at him (and in Sinister's case magnifying it 10 times before doing so)?AM, the weakest link, is on Team 1. A character with a weakness to a common energy attack (fire) is on Team 1. NO ONE on Team 2 has any weaknesses that exploitable by Team 1.
This isn't hard people.
Originally posted by zopzop
Apoc or Sinister FOR SURE stomp AM. Also, resisting Starro is nice and all but what's that got to do with Apoc or Sinister reflecting AM's psi bolt back at him (and in Sinister's case magnifying it 10 times before doing so)?AM, the weakest link, is on Team 1. A character with a weakness to a common energy attack (fire) is on Team 1. NO ONE on Team 2 has any weaknesses that exploitable by Team 1.
This isn't hard people.
Sinister stomps someone who took out Olympian? Or resisted Maxima's mental powers? Or someone who has traded blows with lobo? Or Superboy? Or Wonder Woman? Or someone who probed Martian manhunter without him knowing? Or Power Ring? Or Superwoman? Or mentally controlling Millenium Giants? Or going toe to toe with Tempest? Depero certainly didn't own him. Or Superman for that matter. ALL of these guys are superior to Sinister in one way or another. It's not that hard to comprehend.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Everyone in team 2 is weak to punches, this isn't too hard zop.
Wrong. Two people on team 2, Apoc and Sinister, have complete control of their bodies down to the molecular level. Physical attacks aren't gonna do anything to them. So that's out.
Again, comes down to Team 2 having ZERO weaknesses while Team 1 has the weak link and a member weak to a common element. Again, Team 2 wins.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Sinister stomps someone who took out Olympian? Or resisted Maxima's mental powers? Or someone who has traded blows with lobo? Or Superboy? Or Wonder Woman? Or someone who probed Martian manhunter without him knowing? Or Power Ring? Or Superwoman? Or mentally controlling Millenium Giants? Or going toe to toe with Tempest? Depero certainly didn't own him. Or Superman for that matter.
Yes.
Originally posted by zopzop
Wrong. Two people on team 2, Apoc and Sinister, have complete control of their bodies down to the molecular level. Physical attacks aren't gonna do anything to them. So that's out.Again, comes down to Team 2 having ZERO weaknesses while Team 1 has the weak link and a member weak to a common element. Again, Team 2 wins.
your reading too much into stats and not actual showings. your also downplaying Authur