Originally posted by abhilegend
Because superman is such a weakling, right? Thing busted WWH's nose.
Red Hulk made WWH bleed as well along with Skaar with his 100 trillion tons of force...you are missing the point. Blunt force doesn't equal durability towards energy attacks. What's Doomsday best damage soak toward being punched in his jaw.
Hulk withstood a punch that had 100 trillion tons of force. Hulk withstood a punch that was so powerful that it made a nuke like explosion. If we are talking about energy attacks, well, Hulk withstood an attack that had enough force to push and destroy planets and also was destroying reality. Hulk withstood an attack from a pissed Galactus...Hulk has withstood an attack that laid waste to a universe and he was still fighting.
Originally posted by carver9
Red Hulk made WWH bleed as well along with Skaar with his 100 trillion tons of force...you are missing the point. Blunt force doesn't equal durability towards energy attacks. What's Doomsday best damage soak toward being punched in his jaw.Hulk withstood a punch that had 100 trillion tons of force. Hulk withstood a punch that was so powerful that it made a nuke like explosion. If we are talking about energy attacks, well, Hulk withstood an attack that had enough force to push and destroy planets and also was destroying reality. Hulk withstood an attack from a pissed Galactus...Hulk has withstood an attack that laid waste to a universe and he was still fighting.
At base levels any version of Doomsday is more durable than the Hulk. However, the Hulk can and does become more durable as he ramps up in strength. Within 10-20 seconds the Hulk would be more durable than HP Doomsday, going from what was seen on panel. This means that the Hulk would not be holding back in case someone gets hurt or killed.
Originally posted by carver9
You are missing the point. Warpath didn't punch him by the way. It's not difficult to make Hulk bleed but knocking him out...that's the hard part.
I think, actually, that you are missing mine. My point was a rebuttal to yours, when you type:
He withstood some high end energy attacks but when Superman punched that face, blood skeeted out. Pretty obvious to me.
My point was that, if that was the evidence on which you were basing your judgements on, well, when the Thing punched WWH in the face, blood also skeeted out. As I don't count his HF as part of his durability, than it follows Doomsday>Hulk in durability.
When did Thing knock out WWH?
I'm not sure...never saw it in the comic. All I saw was blood coming from him.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think, actually, that you are missing mine. My point was a rebuttal to yours, when you type:My point was that, if that was the evidence on which you were basing your judgements on, well, when the Thing punched WWH in the face, blood also skeeted out. As I don't count his HF as part of his durability, than it follows Doomsday>Hulk in durability.
I'm not sure...never saw it in the comic. All I saw was blood coming from him.
I said that for a reason.
Hulk healing factor IS part of his durability.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I see it this way:A HF would regenerate you frm any damage dealt to you.
Durability would keep you from being hurt in the 1st place.
Depends.
Doomsday isn't invulnerable by any means. He has been cut through and he has bleed, killed, etc, etc.
Healing factor is an added source...its part of Hulks durability. If a healing factor doesn't have anything to do with durability, then what category does it fall up under.?
Originally posted by carver9
Depends.Doomsday isn't invulnerable by any means. He has been cut through and he has bleed, killed, etc, etc.
Healing factor is an added source...its part of Hulks durability. If a healing factor doesn't have anything to do with durability, then what category does it fall up under.?
Originally posted by carver9
Depends.Doomsday isn't invulnerable by any means. He has been cut through and he has bleed, killed, etc, etc.
Healing factor is an added source...its part of Hulks durability. If a healing factor doesn't have anything to do with durability, then what category does it fall up under.?
It falls under...healing factor?
Otherwise, like abhi says, you get strange results. Wolverine is more durable than Superman, for example, using this logic. The beating that Doomsday dealt to Superman in DOS - I can see Wolverine healing back from that in no time.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It falls under...healing factor?Otherwise, like abhi says, you get strange results. Wolverine is more durable than Superman, for example, using this logic. The beating that Doomsday dealt to Superman in DOS - I can see Wolverine healing back from that in no time.
Makes sense. So this thread is pointless.
Originally posted by carver9
Makes sense. So this thread is pointless.
Not really.
Doomsday was bloodied by Superman. But Orion, Doomsday, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman couldn't.
WWH was bloodied by Thing.
Ergo, Doomsday's durability against punches (which is the most common method of fighting it seems in comics) is greater than the Hulk's.
Against piercing damage, we have already agreed Doomsday's durability>Hulk's.
Against energy blasts, I pick Doomsday again.
So in conclusion, Doomsday's durability>Hulk.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not really.Doomsday was bloodied by Superman. But Orion, Doomsday, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman couldn't.
WWH was bloodied by Thing.
Ergo, Doomsday's durability against punches (which is the most common method of fighting it seems in comics) is greater than the Hulk's.
Against piercing damage, we have already agreed Doomsday's durability>Hulk's.
Against energy blasts, I pick Doomsday again.
So in conclusion, Doomsday's durability>Hulk.
So your vote is "excluding" Hulks healing factor right?
I'm asking this because if we look at overall performance, including healing factor. I would out Zom Strange punches over the punches Doomsday withstood when facing the JLA and I would put Onslaught punches above those as well...you know, the same punches that was creating shockwaves that was sending Earth heros flying for miles and even had Thor straining to walk through.
He also withstood a punch that created a freaking Nuclear explosion. A 100 trillion ton punch- punches. Punches that was shaking numerous of realities. The list goes on. You have nothing compared to Hulks blunt force...hell, I don't even think you have nothing compared to what Hulk withstood in the Dark Dimension.
Overall performance...Hulk wins in all category excluding piercing damage.
Originally posted by carver9
So your vote is "excluding" Hulks healing factor right?
That's right.
I'm asking this because if we look at overall performance, including healing factor. I would out Zom Strange punches over the punches Doomsday withstood when facing the JLA and I would put Onslaught punches above those as well...you know, the same punches that was creating shockwaves that was sending Earth heros flying for miles and even had Thor straining to walk through.He also withstood a punch that created a freaking Nuclear explosion. A 100 trillion ton punch- punches. Punches that was shaking numerous of realities. The list goes on. You have nothing compared to Hulks blunt force...hell, I don't even think you have nothing compared to what Hulk withstood in the Dark Dimension.
Overall performance...Hulk wins in all category excluding piercing damage.