Marine Sniper Unit Poses with SS logo

Originally posted by dadudemon

Please: the SS were entrusted with lots of the atrocious killings. His comparison is quite apt with a modern sniper whose job is to kill people.

He's calling them both "dogs" and you're practically raging, "NAY! One is a Bullmastiff and the other is an English Mastiff!"

At face value, what's the difference between entrusting American Military with special killing jobs and entrusting Nazi Military with special killing jobs? Oh, right... 😬

well the thing is that the s.s. was in charge of an executive ordered systematic execution of a substantial portion of their own civilian population, while marine snipers are (presumably) hitting enemy combatants. its hardly a minor set of details to scoff at 😬

Originally posted by focus4chumps
well the thing is that the s.s. was in charge of systematically executing a substantial portion of their own civilian population, while marine snipers are (presumably) hitting enemy combatants. its hardly a minor set of details to scoff at 😬

I like the strong language you use such as

"Systematically"

and

"substantially"

But dressing up your post with exaggerated words does not make your point any better or worse.

But to address your point...

Your distinction is quite irrelevant and is only a forced "contrary" position.

Indeed. Attacking civilians vs. "military targets" is completely arbitrary. At the end of the day, both groups are simply "following orders".

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So it's settled, Marine Snipers are just like the Nazi SS.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I like the strong language you use such as

"Systematically"

and

"substantially"

But dressing up your post with exaggerated words does not make your point any better or worse.

But to address your point...

Your distinction is quite irrelevant and is only a forced "contrary" position.

ok but these are all empty presumptions with no substance to back them up while i presented valid points of comparison. (that being the duties carried out by ww2 ss and todays marine snipers)

Those aren't valid points of comparison. They're arbitrary. In other news, Rob eats cocks.

Though it pains me to admit it, I don't think the US government would have to nudge the Scout Snipers very hard to get them to start ethnically cleansing people.

Or at least not as hard as most would think. Snipers aren't really known for considering the ethical implications of orders.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Those aren't valid points of comparison. They're arbitrary. In other news, Rob eats cocks.

It was sarcasm, you large brown bastard. I don't think marine snipers are like the SS. Sure they're both soldiers, use guns and eat etc., but no.

Well, you eating cocks was definitely not sarcasm, so there. uhuh

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Well, you eating cocks was definitely not sarcasm, so there. uhuh

You're still large.

You're still brown.

You're still a bastard.

there have indeed been command structure breakdowns leading to slaughtered civilians at the hands of jacked up testosterone-drunk sadists who happen to land in the position to make something like that happen, and enthusiastically prove themselves to be human garbage on camera for the world to see.

however, to point that out and compare it to a group of government sanctioned genocide overseers...well its kinda goofy on the grounds that they are both "people who kill people".

its a broad comparison with obvious inflammatory connotations. you could drop the nazi-bomb in a thread about cops, health insurers, court/jury, etc. on that point of comparison.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
ok but these are all empty presumptions with no substance to back them up while i presented valid points of comparison. (that being the duties carried out by ww2 ss and todays marine snipers)

Thank you for stating that it is an empty assumption with no substance to back it up that US Military Snipers do not systematically kill lots of people with cold precision and there's NO legitimate comparison between them and the German SS from WWII. Without your clarification, I would not know how to think. I owe you one.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thank you for stating that it is an empty assumption with no substance to back it up that US Military Snipers do not systematically kill lots of people with cold precision and there's NO legitimate comparison between them and the German SS from WWII. Without your clarification, I would not know how to think. I owe you one.

Originally posted by focus4chumps

["people killing people"] is broad comparison with obvious inflammatory connotations. you could drop the nazi-bomb in a thread about cops, health insurers, court/jury, etc. on that point of comparison.

🥷 masterfully dodged, sensei.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
🥷 masterfully dodged, sensei.

Maybe it's dodging if you pretend this conversation is about something else entirely...

But let's recap. doped

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm not too surprised. Snipers are killers; plane and simple. They see the person they kill. It's personal. I'm not condemning them for that, but they do have that in common with the SS.

Your problem with his statement:

Originally posted by focus4chumps
please explain how a single fallacious comparison "furthered the debate". i mean, it sure created another one, but not pertaining to the thread topic.

Your reasons:

Originally posted by focus4chumps
its a broad comparison with obvious inflammatory connotations. you could drop the nazi-bomb in a thread about cops, health insurers, court/jury, etc. on that point of comparison.

And here's how your reasons were systematically destroyed:

Originally posted by dadudemon
Please: the SS were entrusted with lots of the atrocious killings. His comparison is quite apt with a modern sniper whose job is to kill people.

He's calling them both "dogs" and you're practically raging, "NAY! One is a Bullmastiff and the other is an English Mastiff!"

At face value, what's the difference between entrusting American Military with special killing jobs and entrusting Nazi Military with special killing jobs? Oh, right... 😬

Originally posted by dadudemon
Your distinction is quite irrelevant and is only a forced "contrary" position.

Or do you think that government sponsored and directed killers that systematically execute people are common enough to make clothing comparisons? Do you see why your comparison with "boots" is silly whereas his comparison is fairly spot-on? Here the point is, again: they are both "government sponsored and directed killers that systematically execute/d people".

That's a very specific job and many states throughout history have had their own forms of SS. AKA, specially trained and trusted military forces that carry out sensitive missions that often entail covert and overt executions.

Pretending that anyone else is not like the SS, in that regard, is rather lame. The SS were not even original in their "objectives." They are just more recent and more memorable due to the atrocities associated with the 3rd Reich. Every modern military power has their "SS": unless you live under a rock.

In conclusion, you posted as the contrarian to troll, you were wrong, both Shaky and I called you on it, so you bought the Dodgers and you audaciously accused me of purchasing the Dodgers as you handed Frank McCourt the check. Don't you get enough of your trolling on Bardock's board? Why do it here?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Maybe it's dodging if you pretend this conversation is about something else entirely...

But let's recap. doped

Your problem with his statement:

Your reasons:

And here's how your reasons were systematically destroyed:

Or do you think that government sponsored and directed killers that systematically execute people are common enough to make clothing comparisons? Do you see why your comparison with "boots" is silly whereas his comparison is fairly spot-on? Here the point is, again: they are both "government sponsored and directed killers that systematically execute/d people".

That's a very specific job and many states throughout history have had their own forms of SS. AKA, specially trained and trusted military forces that carry out sensitive missions that often entail covert and overt executions.

Pretending that anyone else is not like the SS, in that regard, is rather lame. The SS were not even original in their "objectives." They are just more recent and more memorable due to the atrocities associated with the 3rd Reich. Every modern military power has their "SS": unless you live under a rock.

In conclusion, you posted as the contrarian to troll, you were wrong, both Shaky and I called you on it, so you bought the Dodgers and you audaciously accused me of purchasing the Dodgers as you handed Frank McCourt the check. Don't you get enough of your trolling on Bardock's board? Why do it here?

wow man 😂

Bring back a hotdog with all the fixin's from the concession stand, please. You KNOW how fat I am. uhuh

well, its remarkably weird because its usually the one who drops 'reductio ad hitlerum' into a topic thats accused of trolling. thats cool how you flipped it.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
well, its remarkably weird because its usually the one who drops 'reductio ad hitlerum' into a topic thats accused of trolling. thats cool how you flipped it.

Yeah, how dare someone resort to Godwin's Law in a thread about ... the ... t-the... 3rd Reich's symbols.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, how dare someone resort to Godwin's Law in a thread about ... the ... t-the... 3rd Reich's symbols.

symbols, not practice. its a flag, brah. not a holocaust.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
*pitiful attempt but impossible to salvage*