Originally posted by Silent Master
Stop using handbook numbers.
Prove that handbook numbers say that Thor is between 200-2000 tons.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove that average Classic Thor operates under a million tons.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Funny how there's a couple of feats of Thor explicitly moving at least a million tons.
The problem is that people are not understanding my argument. I never claimed that Thor couldn't operate over a million tons. I said that on average in his classic days he operated under a million tons. This means it was times he went over but for a majority he was under. He was highly inconsistent.
Also, my argument doesn't suggest or imply the strength level Thor would bring in a forum fight since I view characters at their best ability. I'm using Thor's average to gauge why a billion billion beings would be above him. And thus proving that Superman at his best can overcome this billion billion level being physically.
Originally posted by Silent Master
The same argument can be used against Superman.
Of course it can but whats the relevance?
Thor will operate at his best strength in a forum fight and so will Superman.
My argument doesn't claim otherwise.
My argument is only saying that since Mangog manhandled Thor doesn't mean he manhandled Thor at his highest strength shown. Classic Thor around that time was inconsistent and didn't operate above a million tons very much. Thus it makes since that a billion billion level being is above him in THOSE instances but not when Thor is at his highest strength showing in general.
Finally, I can claim that Namor in water is above Thor in strength simply because he one shotted Hulk. But I won't because I know Hulk was variable too and operated at different strength levels as well.
Originally posted by h1a8
The problem is that people are not understanding my argument. I never claimed that Thor couldn't operate over a million tons. I said that on average in his classic days he operated under a million tons. This means it was times he went over but for a majority he was under. He was highly inconsistent.Also, my argument doesn't suggest or imply the strength level Thor would bring in a forum fight since I view characters at their best ability. I'm using Thor's average to gauge why a billion billion beings would be above him. And thus proving that Superman at his best can overcome this billion billion level being physically.
IOW, you're lowballing Thor's strength level so that you can make Mangog's seem less impressive.
Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you're lowballing Thor's strength level so that you can make Mangog's seem less impressive.
Lowballing is suggesting that he carries the strength level of under a million tons to a forum fight. He doesn't. He operates at the highest strength we seen him. Thus I'm not lowballing Thor.
Originally posted by h1a8
Lowballing is suggesting that he carries the strength level of under a million tons to a forum fight. He doesn't. He operates at the highest strength we seen him. Thus I'm not lowballing Thor.
Yes you f**king are you damn troll, you are low balling Thor too make Superman look superior, and you are using the handbooks as proof this basically shows that you dont know 🤨 you are talking about.
Thor feats alone shown he has moved more than millions tons, world engine is for starts, show us Superman on classic Odin level or STFU troll!
Originally posted by the Darkone
Yes you f**king are you damn troll, you are low balling Thor too make Superman look superior, and you are using the handbooks as proof this basically shows that you dont know 🤨 you are talking about.Thor feats alone shown he has moved more than millions tons, world engine is for starts, show us Superman on classic Odin level or STFU troll!
Thor has more than a million ton force in a forum fight. He gets the highest he has ever shown. Where is the lowballing in that and where is the handbook numbers in that? I don't recall any handbook going over class 100. So why are you bringing handbooks up when they are not allowed as evidence? Trolling much?
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor has more than a million ton force in a forum fight. He gets the highest he has ever shown. Where is the lowballing in that and where is the handbook numbers in that? I don't recall any handbook going over class 100. So why are you bringing handbooks up when they are not allowed as evidence? Trolling much?
So, you agree that Mangog is more than strong enough to seriously rock Superman in a fight?
Originally posted by Silent MasterMangog could beat Superman for a majority if we use average Superman. But unfortunately for the Thor that faced Mangog, he fought Mangog in a comic and not in a forum, otherwise Thor would have done much better against Mangog like Superman will.
You're basing Mangog's strength on how he compares to Thor, So, if you're not lowballing Thor...Then Mangog is more than strong enough to seriously rock Superman in a fight.
Comic fights and forum fights are not the same. Remember that.