Sol's Anvil vs...

"The most powerful weapon ever constructed solely by man" blasts each of the following characters:

-Absorbing Man
-HotM Hulk
-Void (crab)
-Odin in the Destroyer armor (teh 2,000ft version!)
-Full powered Tyrant
-Abraxas
-WPOTC
-Galactus (assume he's devoured 4 planets in preparation)
-The 4th Celestial Host/Exitar
-Thanos /w/ IG

The characters being blasted by Sol's Anvil cannot attack it directly. They must stand in one place and take the blast head-on. However, IF a character is capable of manifesting shielding under their OWN power, they may do so to help defend against the blast--but that is the ONLY defense aside from sheer durability they may utilize... Also assume the Anvil is fully charged/functional before blasting each character (obviously.)

That said... How do they fare against it?

Dead -Absorbing Man
Dead -HotM Hulk
Dead -Void (crab)
Destroyed -Odin in the Destroyer armor (teh 2,000ft version!)
Dead -Full powered Tyrant
Injured? Not sure -Abraxas
Injured/Fine -WPOTC
Dead/Seriously injured -Galactus (assume he's devoured 4 planets in preparation)
Dead -The 4th Celestial Host/Exitar
Totally fine -Thanos /w/ IG

^ 👆 for the most part.

WPTOC has no feats. I'd put her in the dead category to be resurrected some years later.

I'd also put Galactus in the dead category. Sol's Anvil knocked a combined Celestial on it's ass, the same one that one-shotted the Galactus that ate 4 planets.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ 👆 for the most part.

WPTOC has no feats. I'd put her in the dead category to be resurrected some years later.

I'd also put Galactus in the dead category. Sol's Anvil knocked a combined Celestial on it's ass, the same one that one-shotted the Galactus that ate 4 planets.

Yeah, Abraxas and WPOTC have zero durability feats. Total shot in the dark.

What the hell does WPOTC stand for?

White Phoenix of the Crown.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ 👆 for the most part.

WPTOC has no feats. I'd put her in the dead category to be resurrected some years later.

I'd also put Galactus in the dead category. Sol's Anvil knocked a combined Celestial on it's ass, the same one that one-shotted the Galactus that ate 4 planets.

Didn't it more dissolve the armor combining the Celestials then actually hurting them? I mean the 3 remaining Celestials after the attack looked fine.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Didn't it more dissolve the armor combining the Celestials then actually hurting them? I mean the 3 remaining Celestials after the attack looked fine.

I doubt it actually hurt the Celestials, although it certainly affected them to the point they could no longer maintain their Voltron-like form. In my opinion, Sol's Anvil just gave them a good shock to the system.

Not sure what to make out of the Sol Anvil. Best I can describe it is a weaponized sun.

Does it takes the Sun's energy, and multiply it...or simply channel its power? If its the later, Phoenix did just fine being at the heart of a Sun going Super Nova.

It channels energy from multiple sources (see the second scan in the OP.)

Originally posted by "Id"
Not sure what to make out of the Sol Anvil. Best I can describe it is a weaponized sun.

Does it takes the Sun's energy, and multiply it...or simply channel its power? If its the later, Phoenix did just fine being at the heart of a Sun going Super Nova.

As per Future Franklin, Sol's Anvil = "The power of the sun, channeled through a fixed point, buttressed by the Earth herself.."

So, yes, I assume it's the latter.

Originally posted by "Id"
If its the later, Phoenix did just fine being at the heart of a Sun going Super Nova.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Didn't it more dissolve the armor combining the Celestials then actually hurting them? I mean the 3 remaining Celestials after the attack looked fine.

Originally posted by Doon
I doubt it actually hurt the Celestials, although it certainly affected them to the point they could no longer maintain their Voltron-like form. In my opinion, Sol's Anvil just gave them a good shock to the system.

The Anvil destroyed a form that was presumably greater than the sum of its parts. I mean, if it made them weaker, why would they do it?

Originally posted by Cogito
The Anvil destroyed a form that was presumably greater than the sum of its parts. I mean, if it made them weaker, why would they do it?

Sol's Anvil did, in fact, destroy their unified form. When all was said and done though, they were just restored to their original forms, i.e., three Celestials and one dead one (originally defeated by Galactus). And they only took on the unified form in the first place to battle the aforementioned Galactus. My point is, whether or not the Celestials were affected by Sol's Anvil (which they obviously were), the weapon didn't even come close to stopping them. To be honest, I don't even think the Celestials really process pain the way humans and similar organisms do.

^ Sol's Anvil did better than a Galactus that fed on 4 planets. Who, in turn, had been handily dealing with 4 individual Mad Celestials.

Originally posted by "Id"
Not sure what to make out of the Sol Anvil. Best I can describe it is a weaponized sun.

Does it takes the Sun's energy, and multiply it...or simply channel its power? If its the later, Phoenix did just fine being at the heart of a Sun going Super Nova.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Sol's Anvil did better than a Galactus that fed on 4 planets. Who, in turn, had been handily dealing with 4 individual Mad Celestials. If it just redirected a small focused portion of the Sun's power, I'd agree it doesn't sound impressive in context. But then again, we see what Superman does with an infinitesimal portion of the Sun's energy.

Well, Galactus was able to take out one of the 4 Mad Celestials, leaving only 3 behind, which is fairly impressive. Had the other three chosen not to combine, I don't think Sol's Anvil would have taken all 3 of them down in one shot. Perhaps it would have stopped one of them, however, leaving just 2. It's hard to tell since we don't know how much more powerful Voltron Celestial is in comparison to the other three in their original forms. I'm also curious if the other 3 were able to siphon off remaining energies from the Celestial who fell to Galactus, adding some of his power to their own.

Originally posted by Doon
Well, Galactus was able to take out one of the 4 Mad Celestials, leaving only 3 behind, which is fairly impressive. Had the other three chosen not to combine, I don't think Sol's Anvil would have taken all 3 of them down in one shot. Perhaps it would have stopped one of them, however, leaving just 2. It's hard to tell since we don't know how much more powerful Voltron Celestial is in comparison to the other three in their original forms. I'm also curious if the other 3 were able to siphon off remaining energies from the Celestial who fell to Galactus, adding some of his power to their own.

WPOTC have my opinion on Jean

Celestials just awesome

Most powerful by man....Go FF 😂

Most powerful weapon in the Multiverse...anyone remember what that is I do 🙂 🙂

Galactus never had a chance to attack the Voltron Celestial, though, so we don't know if he might have been able to shatter it the way that Sol's Anvil did/does. Obviously being that they combined the power of 3 celestials and then presumably used the casing of the one dead Celestial for extra armor they had a lot more firepower at their disposal, but not necessarily that much more durability. Could be, but we just don't know, and it isn't as if Galactus tried and failed.

As mentioned, the description of the weapon was that it channeled a bunch of energy from the sun into a blast, which is not at all impressive considering we've seen characters like Mad-God Sector 3600 throw entire suns at Green Lanterns before and, indeed, one of DC's big villains is a sentient sun (and characters like Pheonix feed on suns!).

But it probably IS a very serious portion of the sun's energy -- a careful reading of HIckman's run shows what I believe to be a subtle retcon -- that the apocalyptic future of Millar's Defenders (from his FF run -- the guys that later went to Nu Earth, before it was destroyed by Galactus in Hickman's run) came about when 'the sun suddenly and inexplicably dimmed' (that isn't the exact phrasing, but it's close enough).

So the use of Sol's Anvil here is what causes the Defender's future to exist in the first place.

^ The idea that Sol's Anvil only channeled a portion of the Sun's energy shouldn't diminish the power it demonstrated. In comics, the Sun's energy has its own share of low and high feats.

On one end of the spectrum, channeling 1/5th of the Sun's energy merely healed Galactus to normal levels in the epilogue to Chaos War even when he wasn't geometrically shrinking.

On the other end of the spectrum, Superman sitting in the Sun for only a few minutes empowered him to levels that outmuscled a Warworld's FTL engines amped by Imperiex's energies.

Sol's Anvil should be measured by what it accomplished, not what energy it harnessed. It's the most reliable way to measure it considering the above. The theory connecting Hickman to Millar is certainly interesting though. It certainly would have been a convenient, clever and completely sensical opportunity to reinforce continuity. In that vein, I was anticipating that Doom would use his MoD powers to stall the Mad Celestials but that didn't happen obviously.