Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/NullBombAbsorb.jpgThor > Phoenix > Galactus.
Isn't Thor scheduled to kill the Phoenix in the upcoming weeks? With the Avengers coming out in May, I think Marvel will let Thor kill the birdy. I mean they let a nobody like Xorn do it.
Originally posted by GalacticStormGalactus has absorbed stars in their entirety in Nova. 😐
And in response to that i reminded you that a power restricted Jean not only did that but absorbed the entirety of those massive energies into her body which is a feat of durability itself.If her body can withstand such energies in a weakened state, then Sols Anvil is gonna be no trouble for a prepped White Phoenix Of The Crown 😉
The Celestials were not prepped for the attack and all it did was separate their bond not destroy any of them. The amalgamation arguably could have withstood the blast if they were prepped like the characters here are.
Galactus' body can withstand such energies in a devastatingly weakened state in Silver Surfer. Sol's Anvil was a problem for a highly amped Galactus in Fantastic Four.
You're awful at this. Just awful. facepalm
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Youre voicing surprise when you havent even read the comic. Its probably a good thing that you do just that, then you'll see that the Celestials were not prepared for the attack, they were caught unawares and even so all it did was separate the amalgamation into the individual Celestials, not destroy any of them.In the same way a 4 yr old kid could run into you and knock you over if youre caught completely unawares, but if you see them coming and youre prepped for impact then that kid aint doing a thing 😉
Yeah.....
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not really. The posts ive made will suffice. Jean did not just bathe within a star, she went to the centre and absorbed all of its energy into her being as a snack and she was still hungry afterwards. 🙂Sols Anvil channels portions of energy from the Sun for destructive blasts. Do you believe that a prepped Jean can be harmed by Sols Anvil with this point in mind? 😕
I'd hope not. That would be illogical. 😬
Originally posted by Cogito
People are getting too hung up on the definition of the Anvil and its power. I mean seriously, it's a comic.Sentry had the power of "a million exploding suns". According to http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/astro/snovcn.html,
So 1,000,000*10^44, or 1 with 50 zeroes after it (is the equivalent power in suns, with my approximate and made up math)...
By that measure, Bob combing his hair back cause more destruction than the Anvil. But it doesn't matter, because it's all made up by people without physics degrees, and people who don't give a shit about proper units of measurement.
K? Good.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm😂
Its not a clear disconnect at all. Its a misunderstanding on your behalf, possibly my fault for not making it clear enough where im going with this.Characters can survive with both their durability and their ability to create a shield, they are prepped.
Jean has shown durability enough to not only withstand the internal energies of a star, but durability enough to go on to absorb all of that energy into her very being. She absorbed the energy of a whole star and was not anywhere near her capacity and this was a Jean with psychic circuit breakers restricting her access to her full power which speaks even more for her durability. I'm not suggesting as a tactic Jean would be manipulating the blast in anyway, not once did i say or even suggest that. What im saying is to be able to bathe in and then take in the energies of an entire star into her body is a feat of durability in itself. The energies her body would have withstood to do so are exponentially greater than a blast from Sols Anvil which is merely channeling a comparatively tiny fraction of a stars power.
Then we havent even gotten into her ability to create shielding. The womans tapped into the nexus of all psychic energy in the multiverse, the living Big Bang which spawned reality. With that in mind its kind of ridiculous to believe that she couldnt easily create shielding to shrug off a blast containing a fraction of the Suns power.
Furthermore the amalgamated Celestials were caught off guard by the attack, there was no prep for them. They had no knowledge that they were going to be attacked. Given Celestials are supposed to be above Cube Beings i doubt Sols Anvil wouldve scratched this amalgamation if it was prepped and bolstered itself for an attack. Please consider everything within context 😬
Originally posted by GalacticStormRegardless of how impressive you try to make it sound, enduring the internal forces of a star is a herald-level feat. A WEAKENED Beta Ray Bill did this in Stormbreaker.
And in response to that i reminded you that a power restricted Jean not only did that but absorbed the entirety of those massive energies into her body which is a feat of durability itself.If her body can withstand such energies in a weakened state, then Sols Anvil is gonna be no trouble for a prepped White Phoenix Of The Crown 😉
Once more: herald-level durability alone isn't enough to withstand a blast from the Anvil. Get over it.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Galactus has absorbed stars in their entirety in Nova. 😐Galactus' body can withstand such energies in a devastatingly weakened state in Silver Surfer. Sol's Anvil was a problem for a highly amped Galactus in Fantastic Four.
You're awful at this. Just awful. facepalm
Highly ironic. 🙂
Im aware of Galactus' feats with stars, fully aware of it.
What youre doing is taking the effect of Sols Anvil out of context which is a naive thing to do and yet expected 😬
The Celestial amalgamation was caught unaware by the blast, despite this, all the blast did was disrupt their bond, it didnt harm any of them whatsoever. Big Deal. 🙄
If they were prepped for the weapon and bolstered their durability or put up shields like the characters in this thread are permitted to do, then no doubt Sols Anvil would not have been a problem.
So ignoring the fact the Celestials were caught unaware and ignoring the fact that it merely separated their temporary amalgamation whilst making an assessment of the capabilities of Sols Anvil is just plain stupid. Do better.
Originally posted by Galan007
Regardless of how impressive you try to make it sound, enduring the internal forces of a star is a herald-level feat. A WEAKENED Beta Ray Bill did this in Stormbreaker.Once more: herald-level durability isn't enough to withstand a blast from the Anvil. Get over it.
And what youre doing is ignoring the subsequent points whereby i mentioned not only did she do that but she then went on to absorb and contain the entire energies of said star, a feat of durability pertaining to energy within itself. Why you keep going back to one point within posts containing a series of them i do not know. 😬
The Celestial amalgamation was caught unaware and despite that the blast only separated the Celestials into their original forms. Why are you ignoring this?
If the amalgamation was prepped like the characters in your thread are then no doubt the weapon would not have done a damn thing.
The Anvil merely redirects a portion of the suns energy, beings such as Galactus and Phoenix etc eat planets and stars whole so their durability and capacity to withstand energy exceeds the comparatively tiny amount that Sols Anvil produced. Celestials are Galactus level beings. The weapon merely disrupted their temp amalgamation, nothing more. Please do not overrate it.
Can you believe this sh1t? 😬
You have absolutely no evidence that Galactus, or the Celestials by extension, would have easily withstood the Sol's Anvil or that its success in reverting the combined Celestial was wholly dependant on surprise.
All you've done is assumed your conclusion. Which is belied by the simple fact that the individual Celestials -- who are Galactus-level and supposedly have no need to fear the puny Sol's Anvil -- immediately move to destroy Sol's Anvil. This suggests, if not outright confirms, that the Celestials were threatened by it especially since Nathaniel Richards reveals that across all realities the Celestials never let Sol's Anvil shoot more than once. Never. Across all potential realities. Never.
What we do know for sure is this: Sol's Anvil knocked a combined Celestial on its a$$ and forcibly demerged it -- a combined Celestial that was so powerful it one-shotted a highly amped Galactus.
Of course, whose to say that this amped Galactus wasn't just caught off-guard by the merging. Why don't we just blatantly assume that had Galactus raised his defenses/shields he would have no-sold that blast? Do you know why we don't? Because we don't arbitrarily assume sh1t without evidence to support it. Make a better argument. Emphasis on "argument." Because nobody here is interested in your baseless assumptions.
Originally posted by GalacticStormYou know why I keep ignoring it? Because in this thread, energy absorption isn't applicable for the characters involved (a fact I made clear a while ago.) Therefore, Jean absorbing the energy from said star is, quite literally, meaningless.
And what youre doing is ignoring the subsequent points whereby i mentioned not only did she do that but she then went on to absorb and contain the entire energies of said star, a feat of durability pertaining to energy within itself. Why you keep going back to one point within posts containing a series of them i do not know. 😬
Originally posted by GalacticStormSo aside from all the other 'were Galactus/Celestials prepped' and 'is the anvil < the sun' bullshit, I find myself stuck on this:
And what youre doing is ignoring the subsequent points whereby i mentioned not only did she do that but she then went on to absorb and contain the entire energies of said star, a feat of durability pertaining to energy within itself.
When did feats of energy absorption become feats of durability? We've seen characters absorb/channel/contain all sorts of bullshit comic book energies in the past, and, from my perspective, that's never served as an indicator that they could no-sell those energies should they be weaponized, especially in a situation where absorption of energies was not an option (see: this thread).
We don't assume that a Watcher couldn't hurt current Rulk, we don't assume Meggan could shrug off the reality-destroying matrix energies that she's channeled in the past... etc, etc.
Why is Phoenix a different situation?
Confirmed : the gun MULTIPLIES the power:
Question about Sol´s Anvil: Does it takes the Sun's energy, and multiply it...or simply channel its power? ( i guessit multiply millions(or billions) times the sun energy).a: It focuses, and multiplies, it.
http://www.formspring.me/JonathanHickman/q/369624498107864797
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Confirmed : the gun MULTIPLIES the power:http://www.formspring.me/JonathanHickman/q/369624498107864797
Makes sense.
