Originally posted by Mairuzu
....seriously?The video explains itself if you just watch the damn thing. Until then we can discuss it, otherwise I dont give a shit.
Seriously!
You are over doing the video thing, and that is why I don't take any of it seriously. I would rather hear your opinion then a video.
This is just my opinion.
You guys are wasting your time asking for clarification. Mairuzu seems to be one of those people who isn't actually able to form opinions on his own, who has to be told what to think by other people. The only difference between him and your average Fox News viewer or Rush Limbaugh listener (or a large number of Daily Show fans, for that matter) is that he gets his opinions from youtube instead of tv or talk radio. That's why he isn't even able to articulate his opinions, but instead simply refers you back to the place where he was told what to think.
Mairuzu, why should anybody want to vote for Ron Paul? How does "he talks about the consitution and freedom" make up for the fact that he values the rights of the states more than the rights of the people? Why should anyone support Ron Paul when is just as willing as santroum to let his religious beliefs override his other political convictions? I want to know why you support Ron Paul, not why some guy on youtube does.
facepalm
Its broken down in the same damn post where the videos are. Did you read the text? Come on guys, show more intellect.
Edit: @ Gonzo. I actually spend 8 hours a day studying this sort of information. I weigh it out and decide on my own that my opinions are. Don't be so arrogant to claim knowledge over my mind. stoned
You realize tv and talk radio is posted on youtube? Everything on tv is posted on youtube? Youre a ****ing dumb ass lol. God this forum is just sad.
You guys are the most obedient citizens ever. ****ing spoon fed bullshit and you eat it all up. Enjoy having your money become more worthless due to inflation, another hidden tax on your ass. Enjoy having the fed print more money to bail out their banker buddies and failing corporations. You guys are ****ing morons who need to do studying of your own. Like i said, no wonder this country is ****ed.
Valuing the states more than the people? youre a ****ing idiot. Its about bring federal laws to the state level where people get to have more a decision. God damn this is pointless. When has ron ever said his relgious beliefs will get in the way? You dont even know what the **** you're talking about do you? haermm
So ****ing sad. How do you guys not see your own idiocy?
I don't believe we should be getting ****ed over like we are as middle class citizens. Prices on everything conitue to rise while the federal reserve continues to bail out their buddies and their special interest. Gas is rising. Food is rising. Obama is using the ****ing reserves to keep prices low for his ****ing election. Food is rising in price. College units. Everything. My ****ing tire was 90 dollars last year. 120 today. Same exact ****ing tire I Got.
If you listen to what ron has to say, because obviously no one here really does. Then you'd probably understand something. Audit the ****ing fed. The partial audit Ron managed to receive a while back showed the trillions spent. The trillions lost even. I honestly dont believe anyone here studies both sides and weighs out an opinion of their own their own common sense. I spend at least 8 hours a day for the past few years studying everything I can sink my teeth into. I think I know what the **** im talking about because this is what I focus on. We're being ****ed. This has nothing to do with ron paul. This has to do with you. No one seems to be grasping this. This isnt a ****ing sports game where im rooting for one team and you're saying he wont win.
With so much knowledge on the internet today how can anyone vote for obama, romney, santorum or even gingrich? Have you done your studies on these guys?
No that just comes with being me stoned
To be honest, I can see how i would come off to you guys. You have your own imagination of how im talking with the words I type but im not really all that aggresive as I seem to be. In person, every word here wouldnt seem so harsh I think. Its just what I do when I go on rants lol. Im very potty mouthed. I also like calling people names, its a lot quicker than coming up with some whitty shit. I wonder all around the world wide web so I usually have to make my points quick. Usually ends up ****in me over though.
My intentions are innocent.
"I'm an imperfect messenger, but the message is perfect." ~ Ron Paul.
We all get our source of information from somewhere. Thats a give in. I try to get it from many places to weigh out an opinion. Its easy to stop bullshit when you see it.
Originally posted by Mairuzu
No that just comes with being me stonedTo be honest, I can see how i would come off to you guys. You have your own imagination of how im talking with the words I type but im not really all that aggresive. Its just what I do when I go on rants lol. Im very potty mouthed.
"I'm an imperfect messenger, but the message is perfect." ~ Ron Paul.
I totally understand.
First, I can't vote for Ron Paul, even if I wanted too. I am an independent and I live in Oregon. I cannot vote in the primaries.
The only choice I will have is Romney or Obama. Which one do you think I should vote for?
Neither. You need to realize that they are the same person backed by the same people. Personaly, I wouldnt vote at all.. but its not like I can tell you who to vote for. I would hope that Paul runs 3rd party if we dont hit a brokered convention. Time will tell. Either way, many people, world wide even, are taking a liking to Ron Paul and his message. The main goal isnt just to win him presidency, it would be the easy way out for us though, out of this bull shit. Full audit of the fed to see what **** they're doing in there. Stop wasting our money overseas for the military industrial complex. Bring these troops home who just end up dying or killing themselves for something we cant win. **** preemptive wars. The message has brought a shit load of people together, i saw it with my own eyes 2 nights ago and on tv all the time. Its huge. Apparently there are still idiots voting for romney though, its sad. Anyone study goldman sachs?
What scares me is knowing all of this shit obama has done in his first term and what he will do in a second term without worrying about reelection. 40,000 new laws passed this year. I dont even know if i can read them all. But holy ****
Heres more bullshit in north dakota
Ben Swann is the only ****ing news castor reporting real shit.
Woops, I better correct myself. The fed actually audited themselves and reported everything to be A-Okay stoned
Thats like letting the murderer investigate the crime scene.
Do you know what their excuse was for us not being in a recession? Get this... the new iPad, although working faster and better than the previous, is still the same price.
**** my life and **** you William Dudley.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/11/us-usa-fed-dudley-ipad-idUSTRE72A4AC20110311
Originally posted by Mairuzu
facepalmIts broken down in the same damn post where the videos are. Did you read the text? Come on guys, show more intellect.
Edit: @ Gonzo. I actually spend 8 hours a day studying this sort of information. I weigh it out and decide on my own that my opinions are. Don't be so arrogant to claim knowledge over my mind. stoned
You realize tv and talk radio is posted on youtube? Everything on tv is posted on youtube? Youre a ****ing dumb ass lol. God this forum is just sad.
You guys are the most obedient citizens ever. ****ing spoon fed bullshit and you eat it all up. Enjoy having your money become more worthless due to inflation, another hidden tax on your ass. Enjoy having the fed print more money to bail out their banker buddies and failing corporations. You guys are ****ing morons who need to do studying of your own. Like i said, no wonder this country is ****ed.
Valuing the states more than the people? youre a ****ing idiot. Its about bring federal laws to the state level where people get to have more a decision. God damn this is pointless. When has ron ever said his relgious beliefs will get in the way? You dont even know what the **** you're talking about do you? haermm
So ****ing sad. How do you guys not see your own idiocy?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Sorry, but that is stupid. There is a big difference between Romney and Obama. The fact you can't see that is baffling to me. You must keep in mind that we are not just voting for one person. We are voting for all the people they will appoint.
Tell me what is different
Originally posted by Omega Vision
There are more ad hominems than propositions here.
Thats how I roll. Try not to focus on my ad hominems stoned
Otherwise you're just wasting time.
Lol so how do you define "moderately conservative"?
who is willing to listen to all sides of what? What makes you so sure about that? Where has Romney shown this?
He wants to "cut cap and balance the federal budget" yet he wants a huge military presence just as obama? How the **** can he do that when these wars and occupations of countrys bleed our money?
He's a flip flopper. He changes his positions so ****ing fast how do you even know what the hell he stands for?
Pro life? pro choice? pro life? Make your mind up mitt.
Only a ****ing moron would vote for romney. Or obama.
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Lol so how do you define "moderately conservative"?who is willing to listen to all sides of what? What makes you so sure about that? Where has Romney shown this?
😱 You know, there are videos on YouTube... 😂
You don't know what a moderately conservative is? Well, let me introduce you to one... Hi...
Originally posted by MairuzuI'm just drawing conclusions based on the available evidence, and the evidence available in this thread is that you can't actually discuss the issues at hand. All you seem to do is repeat talking points, and when asked for clarification simply post videos of other people repeating talking points.
Edit: @ Gonzo. I actually spend 8 hours a day studying this sort of information. I weigh it out and decide on my own that my opinions are. Don't be so arrogant to claim knowledge over my mind. stoned
You realize tv and talk radio is posted on youtube? Everything on tv is posted on youtube? Youre a ****ing dumb ass lol. God this forum is just sad.
Enjoy having your money become more worthless due to inflation, another hidden tax on your ass.How is rep. Paul going to magically stop inflation? By abolishing the fed and putting us on the gold standard? That wouldjust make things worse. Deflation is not inherently better than inflation. Anyway, how exactly does rep. Paul plan to avoid the massive economic upheaval (and subsequent loss of wealth) that would come from simply abolishing the fed without changing the rest of the system? Simply pointing out existing problems doesn't make me want to support rep. Paul.
Valuing the states more than the people? youre a ****ing idiot. Its about bring federal laws to the state level where people get to have more a decision.He would take away power the federal gov't is using to protect the people (e.g. the Civil Rights Act, ADA, etc.), and give it to the states, which will use it to oppress people (fun fact, there were no federal Jim Crow laws, that was all states oppressing people). If he truly valued the rights of the people, he would be more interested in protecting their rights, not simply dismantling the federal gov't.
God damn this is pointless. When has ron ever said his relgious beliefs will get in the way? You dont even know what the **** you're talking about do you?
Ron Paul saidOh, of course he never says he going to actually do these things. But he does them anyway. When has the rhetoric coming out of his mouth ever stopped a politician from doing what he wants? I think this is the biggest problem with paul supporters, that they believe that because he has different talking points, he will actually act differently from other politicians.
The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well lets see...One is a moderate conservative who is willing to listen to all sides, and the other is an extremest liberal who compromises with no one.