Peak Count Dooku Versus Peak Revan

Originally posted by Arhael
Lol. I like how you adopted proffessor style talk from recently.

Originally posted by Arhael
What is real fallasy is to see things in black and white. All characters have their weaknesses and strengths.

Originally posted by Arhael
Dooku could fight both Kenobi and Anakin simultaniously, yet, got disarmed by single swing of Opress.

Dooku, however, have overwhelmed Opress with his greater command of the Force. This is one of his strong points (strengths). In comparison, Opress is inferior in his command of the Force, therefore this is his weakness against Dooku.

Point is that advantage comes from exploiting the weaknesses.

Originally posted by Arhael
In turn Maul casually handled Opress and both of them couldn't defeat Kenobi.

And it is possible that Kenobi has become more powerful then both Maul and Opress.

Originally posted by Arhael
No matter how cleverly "This is a fallasy" sounds, it still has no weight as it supported by nothing more than your opinion.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

However, I do believe that it is possible to subdue Mace through other means. So Dooku' chances against (ROTS) Mace might be better with his command of the Force rather then his skills with the lightsaber.

I'm of the opinion that with a combination of both, elegant Makashi to fend off Mace's powerful strikes and simultaneous use of Force Tk, Dooku would certainly give Mace hell.

Whether he could actually beat him or not, I don't know.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I am not ignoring it. It is possible that Dooku may go toe-to-toe with (ROTS) Mace for longer period then Sidious

I think it would be a longer fight, due to Dooku prolonging the fight fending off his attacks instead of matching his power for power (in Sabers).

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
but then their is no guarantee that the former individual may succeed. Because by the time of ROTS, Mace' command of Vaapad was exceptional/unique and he did put another noteworthy lightsaber combatant on his @ss to PROVE his skill.

Oh no, I never actually said Dooku was the superior combatant or that he would actually defeat Mace.

I just think in a one on one they would be more on par than people usually give Dooku credit for.

Many people point to Mace beating Sidious and Anakin beating Dooku as supposed evidence that Mace would stomp Dooku. Whilst I don't believe in a one on one between them the difference would be that large at all.

Opress' greater physical strength seems to be the reason. This is one of his strong points (strengths). In comparison, Dooku is not as physically strong as Opress, therefore this is his weakness against Opress.

On the other hand Dooku demonstrated that he is more than capable to cope with strong opponents in fights with Anakin. Anakin won him because of superior power, not Form advantage. And still Anakin never outdueled him in pure saber fight. In CW he won by kicking him and in RotS - by grapling technique, he exposed Dooku's lack of unarmed combat skills.

Also, interesting fact is that Maul used Makashi to counter Opress' strength. It shows that Makashi can be one of the best options to counter opponent's strength as well.

I admit that I have not seen these duels so I am not in the position to comment on these at the moment. However, their would be explanations for sure.

And it is possible that Kenobi has become more powerful then both Maul and Opress.

Their are lot more examples that I can use to support my point. So please refrain from passing quick judgements.

My opinion is based on film. There is no hint of Dooku being even slightly overwhelmed by Yoda. The only logical assumption is that, if he continued fighting, he would get tired faster because not only Yoda has greater reserves, Dooku spent energy to defeat Kenobi and Anakin as well.

Again I will refer to Dooku's fights with Anakin. Anakin wasn't weakling in sabers. In novel Dooku stated him to be as fine Djem So practitioner as he ever met. And novel said that Anakin had thousands hours of sparring with Kenobi.
If Dooku could fight so well without significant skill advantage against far more powerful Anakin, why is it so hard to believe that he could stalemate Yoda, who not only was less powerful than Anakin but had to waste a lot of his power just to overcome his physical limitations?

As you see it's all subject to interpetation. We did have prolong argument before and it led us nowhere because we both had valid feats, facts and comparisons to support our opinions. And this case is similar. We are better to avoid accusing each other of being wrong and just get over it.

Dooku's specialty is dueling and fencing (Makashi) so when he fights opponents, he usually tries to tire them out and then finish them off. This didn't work against Anakin because Anakin's ability to get stronger as fights go on. The Force can only help Dooku so long, and Anakin has vastly higher Force reserves than Dooku has. That is why Sidious wanted Anakin.