Originally posted by bobbi
A big thing here is if we're going by feats or assumed power sets based on what we know. (basically PIS)If we go by what we've seen on screen (PIS) then thanos would stomp them. Like was said we see Neo just go super fast or be super strong. When Trinity was DYING Neo didn't even teleport to her. He just flew at like super sonic speeds. He didn't snap his fingers and disintegrate the bullet, he "physically" dug it out of her.
In the fight with Smith which should have been all out, we see the collateral damage of their fight be on par with like an average showing of like thor or something.
Based on that and assuming the matrix translates their powers to the matrix (as was said before, if not that'd just be stupid and this would be a stomp for neo/smith) thanos should be able to just speed blitz and destroy neo/smith. They'd just reform and come back but we're assuming death is a win right?
Now if we go by power sets and basically take out PIS, then it's at least a fight but pretty much impossible to really gauge. Now I'm pretty sure Thanos could figure out he's in the matrix pretty quickly. And belief is at least a large part of what gives you powers in the matrix. All the people they pull out get some reality warping power and that power doesn't seem to have been designed into the matrix like the power all the neo's had. So it seems like it's possible for thanos to give himself neo like powers pretty easy. We just dont know how far he could go with it.
The movies seem to say neo could control anything he wanted in the matrix though. We never see any of this but that's his potential. I feel like we don't do potential very often on this forum so I'm still reluctant to give him the win in this scenario. But I think that's the crux of the debate. Neo is suppose to be the God of the matrix, but we just don't see it. I feel other characters discussed on this forum are treated the same way if we don't see any feats to back up what the character is suppose to be capable of.
Neo got weaker in the 2nd and 3rd Matrix in order to keep a story. Remember that at the end of the first Matrix movie that Neo was able to easily destroy an Agent without having to fight him.
Also, it is understood that both Thanos and Bor don't take their powers with them to the matrix. They must manipulate the matrix on a higher level than Neo or Smith in order to outdo them. As far as I'm concerned Thanos and Bor lose immediately since Neo would destroy them before they properly learned how to manipulate the Matrix on Neo's level.