Man follows black teen who seems "suspicious" and kills him.

Started by dadudemon78 pages
Originally posted by BackFire
Regardless it's going to be a fascinating trial, doubly so because the whole thing is going to be aired on TV because of Florida's Sunshine law.

It would appear that both you and I have all the known facts and there will be no new revelations at the trial.

From here, it will be how the case is presented by the damn lawyers. If the defense attorney can create enough reasonable doubt, Zimmerman will get off the hook. If the prosecutor can create a strong enough opinion in the jurors that Zimmerman committed second degree murder, we will get a conviction.

Regardless of the outcome, Zimmerman's life is ruined...for the rest of his life.

Trayvon is dead.

In that situation, I think I would prefer death over what Zimmerman is going to face for the next 10 years.

i just find it fascinating

i only wish i had that power of bullshitting.

i mean...he clearly said "****ing coons", and people have been hoodwinked into thinking he said "punks".

the jedi mind trick is real, people. its ****ing real!

The Jedi mind trick isn't real. This isn't the racial slur you're looking for.

no no, WRONG. first you must claim expert authority. i'll need to see some credentials.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
i just find it fascinating

i only wish i had that power of bullshitting.

i mean...he clearly said "****ing coons", and people have been hoodwinked into thinking he said "punks".

the jedi mind trick is real, people. its ****ing real!

The same expert who said it was "punks" is also the same expert that determined, with high certainty, that the one yelling for help wasn't Zimmerman.

So which one do you want?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
no no, WRONG. first you must claim expert authority. i'll need to see some credentials.
I claim expert authority.

/proof.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The same expert who said it was "punks" is also the same expert that determined, with high certainty, that the one yelling for help wasn't Zimmerman.

So which one do you want?

no, he was one of several to confirm the scream (likely) came from martin and the only one to prove himself a jedi master by causing you to question your lying ears. sorry brah.

Isn't it at all possible that Zimmerman thought that Trayvon was a raccoon, and dialed the police instead of animal control? Hence "f*cking coons."

Originally posted by focus4chumps
no, he was one of several to confirm the scream (likely) came from martin and the only one to prove himself a jedi master by causing you to question your lying ears. sorry brah.

No. You have it wrong.

Be sure you understand the facts and science. You never know: someone in the real world might call you on your ignorance and that could be embarrassing (the internetz do not matter, but the real world and real friends do).

Anyway...

He was one of two experts to confirm that it most likely was not Zimmerman.

NOT that "it was Martin screaming".

Unless, of course, Owen did another analysis (and the same for the other expert) where he got his hands on some of Trayvon's audio recordings.

I am more than willing to eat my words if you have a link or something.

new pics

Zimmerman looks like bram strokers dracula?? Anyone?

Originally posted by dadudemon
I am more than willing to eat my words if you have a link or something.

http://www.something.com/

Start eating, fatty.

Originally posted by rudester
new pics

Zimmerman looks like bram strokers dracula?? Anyone?

Besides the fact that they both have two ears, two eyes. a mouth and a nose, I see no real similarity.

Originally posted by Robtard
http://www.something.com/

Start eating, fatty.

I see what you did there. And it wasn't clever. It wasn't even up to low-level dadudemon standards, much less the generally high-level Robtard standards.

You should be ashamed.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I see what you did there. And it wasn't clever. It wasn't even up to low-level dadudemon standards, much less the generally high-level Robtard standards.

You should be ashamed.

Who are you talking too? me or rob? Never mind walks away slowly 😱

Originally posted by dadudemon
I see what you did there. And it wasn't clever. It wasn't even up to low-level dadudemon standards, much less the generally high-level Robtard standards.

You should be ashamed.

Listen, pal, you asked for one of two things and I gave you both.

So start eating, fat-ass.

The audio conclusions may not be so cut and dry.

"The experts, both of whom said they have testified in cases involving audio analysis, stressed they cannot say who was screaming.

Such analysis could play a role should there be a criminal or civil case over Martin's death. Primeau, who said he uses a combination of critical listening skills and spectrum analysis, called voice identification "an exact science" that can help a legal team in court.

And standards set by the American Board of Recorded Evidence indicate "there must be at least 10 comparable words between two voice samples to reach a minimal decision criteria." While Zimmerman says more than that many words on his 911 call, the only one heard on the second is a cry for "help."

But that board's current chairman Gregg Stutchman -- who described Owens as a friend and well-respected in their field -- said that exact metric doesn't necessarily apply to the software Owens used.

David Faigman, a professor of law at the University of California-Hastings and an expert on the admissibility of scientific evidence, said courts and the overall scientific community have mixed opinions about the reliability of such "voiceprint" analysis.

Because one goal in the Martin case might be ruling out Zimmerman as the source of the screams, rather than precisely identifying who actually was yelling, it could lower the bar for getting such evidence into court, he said."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/02/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html

I was under the impression, and what I was taught, that an 80% match is necessary for a "positive" identification. CNN is saying 60%. That seems a bit low, to me.

And it looks like my opinion is slightly vindicated:

"Hostin says there are several questions and variables that must be considered, including the fact that the tests did not analyze similar speech. That is, the analysis was based on screams heard from a distance in a 911 call, compared with a direct phone conversation Zimmerman had with a 911 operator.

"Ideally, you want (Zimmerman or Martin's) voice saying the same exact thing, screaming 'help,' in order to analyze it," she said."

http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/national/analysts-questions-surround-911-call-analysis-in-trayvon-martin-case

Originally posted by Robtard
Listen, pal, you asked for one of two things and I gave you both.

So start eating, fat-ass.

Reported.

Get a long guys, be buddy buddy... this world is a small world to hate each other. Hug each other and walk it off.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Reported.

Liar.

Originally posted by rudester
Get a long guys, be buddy buddy... this world is a small world to hate each other. Hug each other and walk it off.

lol

Originally posted by BackFire
Liar.

Why the **** would I report a friend?

I only report veiled death threats and spam. lol