DC's Angels Vs Marvel's Cosmics

Started by zopzop18 pages
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Marvel's god would barely be trans in the DCU. You know it.

Marvel's TOAA is supreme in Marvel's Omniverse. The same can't be said for DC's "God". The GEB is just one example. Swamp Thing with the Elemental Congress' was another. I could go on, but hopefully you get my point.

Originally posted by zopzop
Marvel's TOAA is supreme in Marvel's Omniverse. The same can't be said for DC's "God". The GEB is just one example. Swamp Thing with the Elemental Congress' was another. I could go on, but hopefully you get my point.

Again all Vertio stories.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Seriously, wasn't that Vertigo?? DCU's God has it's own supreme being and not linked to the Vertigo one.

That's not what I heard on these boards.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Again all Vertio stories.

Primal Monitor, True Mandraak, WF Mxy. Those are DCU no?

Originally posted by zopzop
That's not what I heard on these boards.

Things like Swamp Thing and Lucifer aren't connected to the MAIN DCU.

Originally posted by zopzop
Primal Monitor, True Mandraak, WF Mxy. Those are DCU no?

No shit. Those stories were taken place in the MAIN DCU!!!!

Originally posted by zopzop
But if the character wasn't introduced yet, how can it be challenged? To make matters worst for you the Secret Wars events were retconned. So there was NO challenge to TOAA's power or authority.

Now compare this to DC's "God". Supposedly Swamp Thing with the Elemental Congress' almost overthrew DC's "God". What a damn joke.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So marvel didn't have a god back then? So whose representetive was LT then? That wasn't the point, you said TOAA was never challanged. That is clearly false.

I haven't read the saga of swamp thing yet so no comment.
Originally posted by zopzop
Because it proves he/she/it IS NOT the Supreme Being like Marvel's TOAA is. There is NO opposite or equal to Marvel's TOAA.

GEB is just another form of presence. They are one and same.

Should we use Preachers GOD TOO!??

Originally posted by Prep-Man
No shit. Those stories were taken place in the MAIN DCU!!!!

Hence DCU's "God" is weaksauce.

GTFO! You make no sense.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I haven't read the saga of swamp thing yet so no comment.

Galan has the info in his Swamp Thing respect thread on these forums.

GEB is just another form of presence. They are one and same.

No, they are each others polar opposite. GEB challenged "God" and the fight ended in "perhaps a stalemate" :
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Lucifer18.jpg

Marvel's TOAA has NO opposite or equal and no challengers to his power.

Stop using Vertigo's God as the main DCU God. Most of those stories aren't in the main continuity.

Originally posted by zopzop
Primal Monitor, True Mandraak, WF Mxy. Those are DCU no?

Primal monitor is just another form of presence as percieved by monitors. Neither mandrakk nor mxy are anywhere near presence. Heck not even ultimator is anywhere near presence.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
GTFO! You make no sense.

The first two : Primal Monitor and True Mandraak looked upon the Presence's creation as a microbe. The last one, WF Mxy, undoes then recreates the entire DC OMNIVERSE weekly. Just these three beings alone prove DC's "God" is weaksauce.

Marvel's TOAA doesn't have superiors, equals, or opposites. It really is supreme in Marvel's Omniverse. The same can't be said for DC's "God".

Originally posted by abhilegend
Primal monitor is just another form of presence as percieved by monitors. Neither mandrakk nor mxy are anywhere near presence. Heck not even ultimator is anywhere near presence.

I'd kinda disagree with that. There is not enough info to make such a claim. PM could be above god, the same as god, or whatever.

Originally posted by zopzop
The first two : Primal Monitor and True Mandraak looked upon the Presence's creation as a microbe. The last one, WF Mxy, undoes then recreates the entire DC OMNIVERSE weekly. Just these three beings alone prove DC's "God" is weaksauce.

Marvel's TOAA doesn't have superiors, equals, or opposites. It really is supreme in Marvel's Omniverse. The same can't be said for DC's "God".

For all we know PM is the SAME. Or below the Presence. Unless you have proof.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Primal monitor is just another form of presence as percieved by monitors.

Proof?

Neither mandrakk nor mxy are anywhere near presence. Heck not even ultimator is anywhere near presence.

The Presence's creation was a microbe to Primal Monitor and True Mandrakk. WF Mxy undoes and recreates the DC Omniverse weekly. This by definition would include the Presence.

Originally posted by zopzop

Galan has the info in his Swamp Thing respect thread on these forums.

No, they are each others polar opposite. GEB challenged "God" and the fight ended in "perhaps a stalemate" :
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Lucifer18.jpg

Marvel's TOAA has NO opposite or equal and no challengers to his power. [/B]


You're leaving a lot of context there. I've to read American gothic again. No disrespect to galan but I don't trust respect thread. Your reasoning is flawed.

Originally posted by zopzop

Proof?

The Presence's creation was a microbe to Primal Monitor and True Mandrakk. WF Mxy undoes and recreates the DC Omniverse weekly. This by definition would include the Presence. [/B]

No it was a microbe to PM NOT Mandrakk. For all we know Presnece can look down upon PM.

Originally posted by zopzop

Proof?

The Presence's creation was a microbe to Primal Monitor and True Mandrakk. WF Mxy undoes and recreates the DC Omniverse weekly. This by definition would include the Presence. [/B]


Mr master has a list of beings who have destroyed entire MU. Does that make TOAA weaksauce?