Marka Ragnos posed the biggest threat. even stated by Grand Jedi Master Luke Skywalker or maybe kyle katarn, that if Marka Ragnos was ever ressurected back at his prime ALL JEDI EVERYWHERE OF ALL ERAS WILL DIE. and Darth Viliate trained and gain knowledge while under Marka Ragnos, and when Marka had no more to train Trenbrae nor had anymore use of him, he gave Trenbrae his Sith name and told him to go back to Naethema and become its ruler, Viliate cowtowed and obeyed without a second thought fearing for what the punishment would be for disobedience. that alone already determined who was the most powerful Sith lord and biggest threat to the Jedi and even the Republic.
1. Vitiate (threat to everything; highly accomplished)
2. Nihilus (threat to everything; nearly brought the Jedi to extinction)
3. Sidious (threat to Jedi and Republic; highly accomplished)
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Marka Ragnos posed the biggest threat. even stated by Grand Jedi Master Luke Skywalker or maybe kyle katarn, that if Marka Ragnos was ever ressurected back at his prime ALL JEDI EVERYWHERE OF ALL ERAS WILL DIE. and Darth Viliate trained and gain knowledge while under Marka Ragnos, and when Marka had no more to train Trenbrae nor had anymore use of him, he gave Trenbrae his Sith name and told him to go back to Naethema and become its ruler, Viliate cowtowed and obeyed without a second thought fearing for what the punishment would be for disobedience. that alone already determined who was the most powerful Sith lord and biggest threat to the Jedi and even the Republic.
Also, it has been explicitly stated in Revan novel that Vitiate surpassed all ancient Sith in power.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDOf Course Ragnos did Nothing to the Republic Destorying the Republic was of no significance to Him. And no Viliate did not Surpass Marka Ragnos nor did he Surpass Naga Sadow why? Viliate Trained under Marka Ragnos and even after his Sith Training was done when Viliate reached his Natural limit in Force power and Lightsaber Mastery he still didnt think for 1 minute to Challange Ragnos for Rullership of the Golden Sith empire, instead Ragnos gave Trenbrae his Sith name and granted him Rulership of Naethema and Sent him on his way, and Knowing Viliate as a Power hungry Will breaking Manipulating Dark Lord he wouldnt have listened to What Ragnos said but instead taking Rullership of the Golden Sith empire for himself. but that wasnt the case was it? Viliate feared Marka Ragnos's tremendous power Both Physically and In The Force. Viliate chose to cling a DYING Sith Empire Back to Life for the Great Galactic War and still got defeated by a Jedi Knight. Marka Ragnos Died by Old age and NO cause, Even in Old Body Ragnos instilled enough power to hold Rulership of the Golden Empire his whole life till the day he died. and as For Viliate not being more powerful then Naga Sadow why? Has Viliate Destoryed an entire Planets/Star sized Planets with a mere thought? No Naga Sadow did, Naga Sadow was being chased by half a Fleet of Cinnagar and half a fleet Republic Troops, and when they got near the 2 Planet sized Stars Naga Used a Unknown type of Solor flare with Sith Magic to Destory the Stars which Destoryed both the Cinnagar and Republic fleet following him. and if those were actual Planets with Sentient life on it that would have been Billions upon Billions of people dying at once plus the Cinnagar and Republic Fleet. Viliate was not capable of doing such feats with the Force which is the reason he didnt join the power struggle for Ruller of the Sith empire that Both Naga Sadow and Ludo Kreesh fought for. instead Viliate Uses Manipulation and Will breaking absorbtion Powers not naturally achieving the power himself. Plus another Fact that Naga Sadow also physically died by Old Age and no cause, same cant be said about Viliate. Naga Sadow instead suffered the Spritual caused by Freeden Nadd instead of getting physically killed. Marka Ragnos and Naga Sadow are the 2 Greatest Rulers of the Sith In terms of Physical&Spiritual Power. AND WHERE DOES IT STATE THAT DARTH VILIATE SPURPASSED BOTH MARKA RAGNOS AND NAGA SADOW?
1. Vitiate (threat to everything; highly accomplished)
2. Nihilus (threat to everything; nearly brought the Jedi to extinction)
3. Sidious (threat to Jedi and Republic; highly accomplished)No, Marka Ragnos did nothing significant against the Republic and the Jedi.
Also, it has been explicitly stated in Revan novel that Vitiate surpassed all ancient Sith in power.
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Of Course Ragnos did Nothing to the Republic Destorying the Republic was of no significance to Him. And no Viliate did not Surpass Marka Ragnos nor did he Surpass Naga Sadow why? Viliate Trained under Marka Ragnos and even after his Sith Training was done when Viliate reached his Natural limit in Force power and Lightsaber Mastery he still didnt think for 1 minute to Challange Ragnos for Rullership of the Golden Sith empire, instead Ragnos gave Trenbrae his Sith name and granted him Rulership of Naethema and Sent him on his way, and Knowing Viliate as a Power hungry Will breaking Manipulating Dark Lord he wouldnt have listened to What Ragnos said but instead taking Rullership of the Golden Sith empire for himself. but that wasnt the case was it? Viliate feared Marka Ragnos's tremendous power Both Physically and In The Force. Viliate chose to cling a DYING Sith Empire Back to Life for the Great Galactic War and still got defeated by a Jedi Knight. Marka Ragnos Died by Old age and NO cause, Even in Old Body Ragnos instilled enough power to hold Rulership of the Golden Empire his whole life till the day he died. and as For Viliate not being more powerful then Naga Sadow why? Has Viliate Destoryed an entire Planets/Star sized Planets with a mere thought? No Naga Sadow did, Naga Sadow was being chased by half a Fleet of Cinnagar and half a fleet Republic Troops, and when they got near the 2 Planet sized Stars Naga Used a Unknown type of Solor flare with Sith Magic to Destory the Stars which Destoryed both the Cinnagar and Republic fleet following him. and if those were actual Planets with Sentient life on it that would have been Billions upon Billions of people dying at once plus the Cinnagar and Republic Fleet. Viliate was not capable of doing such feats with the Force which is the reason he didnt join the power struggle for Ruller of the Sith empire that Both Naga Sadow and Ludo Kreesh fought for. instead Viliate Uses Manipulation and Will breaking absorbtion Powers not naturally achieving the power himself. Plus another Fact that Naga Sadow also physically died by Old Age and no cause same cant be said about Viliate. Naga Sadow instead suffered the Spritual caused by Freeden Nadd instead of getting physically killed. Marka Ragnos and Naga Sadow are the 2 Greatest Rulers of the Sith In terms of Physical&Spiritual Power. AND WHERE DOES IT STATE THAT DARTH VILIATE SPURPASSED BOTH MARKA RAGNOS AND NAGA SADOW?
No.
Marka Ragnos Died by Old age and NO cause,
Killing 0 Jedi in the process.
Dying of old age is really impressive if you take down many strong foes first. Ragnos, while strong, never did anything that huge or created that great of a threat.
Nor was his military strong enough to take the Republic- it was that same military that Naga Sadow used to attack in the Great Hyperspace War, and actually lost in pretty short order.
Vitiate brought the Republic and the Jedi much closer to defeat and created much more destruction than anyone in the Old Sith Empire, as did Palpatine and Krayt.
Vitiate didn't simply 'cling to a dying Sith empire,' he took a splinter and turned it into something vastly stronger than the original, taking on the Republic on even terms for decades, something the original never did.
Originally posted by Q99FIRST you cant make a opinionated statement saying Ragnos killed 0 Jedi when you have no proof conserning that statement, and if you are one of those people that go by the ABSENCE of EVIDENCE is the EVIDENCE of ABSENCE then thats saying you have poor perception conserning undisclosed events in real life and about the series we are talking about now. Marka Ragnos's key plots and Important battles were not fully Detailed, but if you want to say Ragnos DIDNT defeat anyone Strong lets start with SIMUS, he was the previous Dark lord of the Sith before Ragnos and the Strongest One in his Time, AT LEAST BEFORE RAGNOS stepped into the picture, Ragnos fought SIMUS in a Sword duel NO HOLDS BARRED and the outcome for the end of that battle was Ragnos beheading SIMUS and bringing it back to the Dark Council as a example of his power and how little he needs to use it, and as for you SAYING HE KILLED NO JEDI? you have no proof of that as well, Marka Ragnos led RUTHLESS CAMPGAINS against HIS ENEMYS but WHO HIS ENEMYS WERE were NOT SPECIFIED, it was a METAPHORE saying Ragnos Killed ENEMYS of all kinds in his LIFETIME, that would include J.E.D.I.S but what J.E.D.I.S fell by his hand werent MENTIONED, Ragnos wouldnt have been able to continue as a Dark Lord Of The Sith if all he did was sit on the Throne killing any potential SITH THREATS.
Killing 0 Jedi in the process.Dying of old age is really impressive if you take down many strong foes first. Ragnos, while strong, never did anything that huge or created that great of a threat.
Nor was his military strong enough to take the Republic- it was that same military that Naga Sadow used to attack in the Great Hyperspace War, and actually lost in pretty short order.
Vitiate brought the Republic and the Jedi much closer to defeat and created much more destruction than anyone in the Old Sith Empire, as did Palpatine and Krayt.
Vitiate didn't simply 'cling to a dying Sith empire,' he took a splinter and turned it into something vastly stronger than the original, taking on the Republic on even terms for decades, something the original never did.
FIRST you cant make a opinionated statement saying Ragnos killed 0 Jedi when you have no proof conserning that statement,
Yes I can. There was zero Sith/Jedi contact at the time, the Hyperspace war was specifically noted to be first contact between the two and the Jedi had no knowledge of the Sith Empire.
Marka Ragnos's key plots and Important battles were not fully Detailed, but if you want to say Ragnos DIDNT defeat anyone Strong lets start with SIMUS, he was the previous Dark lord of the Sith before Ragnos and the Strongest One in his Time, AT LEAST BEFORE RAGNOS stepped into the picture, Ragnos fought SIMUS in a Sword duel NO HOLDS BARRED and the outcome for the end of that battle was Ragnos beheading SIMUS and bringing it back to the Dark Council as a example of his power and how little he needs to use it,
Ok, yea, beating your old boss is Sith standard-operating-procedure. It doesn't make one a stand-out of all time among them.
Marka Ragnos led RUTHLESS CAMPGAINS against HIS ENEMYS but WHO HIS ENEMYS WERE were NOT SPECIFIED,
What we do know is- After defeating them all, taking over their territory, and consolidating Sith forces... those combined Sith forces were weak enough that they lost to the Republic under Naga Sadow about a year later.
So obviously, his raw military might wasn't the most threatening.
Ragnos wouldnt have been able to continue as a Dark Lord Of The Sith if all he did was sit on the Throne killing any potential SITH THREATS.
Sure, potential Sith threats... but you know what? Vitiate stayed on top against potential Sith threats for longer, and his potential Sith threats included badasses like Revan.
And taking out potential sith threats from within simply does not make one into one of the sith that were the largest threats of all time.
Originally posted by Q99Vitiate didn't simply 'cling to a dying Sith empire,' he took a splinter and turned it into something vastly stronger than the original, taking on the Republic on even terms for decades, something the original never did. [/B]
This isn't very accurate. Vitiate's Empire had over 1,300 years to rebuild and prepare itself for war, in virtual obscurity and without conflict. Meanwhile, the Republic and Jedi Order were on the verge of extinction thanks to Revan and his war, followed by the Sith Triumvirate. They were a shell of their former selves when the Sith Empire attacked. Hardly an even battle.
Originally posted by Based
I don't care about force drain hax, for wound in the force bullcrap, if the Exile, who's nothing special, can stop Nihilus then he's not among the greatest threats.I'd go with Sidious then Vitiate.
Yes he is, thanks to his unqiue ability. And besides, the Exile was no slouch either.
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Of Course Ragnos did Nothing to the Republic Destorying the Republic was of no significance to Him. And no Viliate did not Surpass Marka Ragnos nor did he Surpass Naga Sadow why? Viliate Trained under Marka Ragnos and even after his Sith Training was done when Viliate reached his Natural limit in Force power and Lightsaber Mastery he still didnt think for 1 minute to Challange Ragnos for Rullership of the Golden Sith empire, instead Ragnos gave Trenbrae his Sith name and granted him Rulership of Naethema and Sent him on his way, and Knowing Viliate as a Power hungry Will breaking Manipulating Dark Lord he wouldnt have listened to What Ragnos said but instead taking Rullership of the Golden Sith empire for himself. but that wasnt the case was it? Viliate feared Marka Ragnos's tremendous power Both Physically and In The Force. Viliate chose to cling a DYING Sith Empire Back to Life for the Great Galactic War and still got defeated by a Jedi Knight. Marka Ragnos Died by Old age and NO cause, Even in Old Body Ragnos instilled enough power to hold Rulership of the Golden Empire his whole life till the day he died.
"At thirteen he presented himself to Marka Ragnos, the Lord of all Sith and the ruler of the Sith Council. Impressed by the teenager's ambition and power, Marka Ragnos granted him the title of Lord Vitiate. His position as ruler of Nathema officially recognized, Lord Vitiate returned to his home to conduct his research into the depths of the dark side’s power."
Just 13 years old, Vitiate impressed Marka Ragnos. And Ragnos' training wasn't enough; upon returning to Nathema, Vitiate further began to dig in to the Sith Lore.
Yes, Vitiate did not participated in global Sith politics during his rule over Nathema but he had his reasons for not doing so. He wasn't afraid of anybody. He was rather much smarter and patient then both Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh.
And even prior to gaining immortality, Vitiate became so powerful that he turned thousands of ancient Sith Lords in to his puppets/slaves when they arrived in Nathema, and used them for his personal gain. Not a single ancient Sith Lord managed to rebel/escape.
Ragnos seems like a joke in comparison to Vitiate. The latter is (canonically) a contendor for the spot of most powerful Sith Lord in history; competing with Plagueis and Sidious.
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
and as For Viliate not being more powerful then Naga Sadow why? Has Viliate Destoryed an entire Planets/Star sized Planets with a mere thought? No Naga Sadow did, Naga Sadow was being chased by half a Fleet of Cinnagar and half a fleet Republic Troops, and when they got near the 2 Planet sized Stars Naga Used a Unknown type of Solor flare with Sith Magic to Destory the Stars which Destoryed both the Cinnagar and Republic fleet following him. and if those were actual Planets with Sentient life on it that would have been Billions upon Billions of people dying at once plus the Cinnagar and Republic Fleet. Viliate was not capable of doing such feats with the Force which is the reason he didnt join the power struggle for Ruller of the Sith empire that Both Naga Sadow and Ludo Kreesh fought for. instead Viliate Uses Manipulation and Will breaking absorbtion Powers not naturally achieving the power himself. Plus another Fact that Naga Sadow also physically died by Old Age and no cause, same cant be said about Viliate. Naga Sadow instead suffered the Spritual caused by Freeden Nadd instead of getting physically killed.
But do you know that Vitiate once intiated Galaxy-busting Sith Sorcery? Yes, you heard this right; Galaxy-busting Sith Sorcery.
Sorry. Vitiate trumps Sadow in almost every aspect. Naga Sadow would not last longer then a second or two against Vitiate in personal combat.
Marka Ragnos and Naga Sadow are the 2 Greatest Rulers of the Sith In terms of Physical&Spiritual Power.
Naga Sadow was so powerful in the Force that he threw a small brick at Ludo Kressh to make a statement. Amazing. 🙄
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
AND WHERE DOES IT STATE THAT DARTH VILIATE SPURPASSED BOTH MARKA RAGNOS AND NAGA SADOW?
"Lord Vitiate sacrificed millions, stealing their life force to make himself immortal. Their deaths also made him stronger than any Sith who had come before, and he ceased to be known as Lord Vitiate. On that day, the Emperor was truly born."
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Ragnos seems like a joke in comparison to Vitiate. The latter is (canonically) a contendor for the spot of most powerful Sith Lord in history; competing with Plagueis and Sidious.
Not any more I'm afraid. 🙁
'According to Ian Ryan, lead writer of TOR Enyclopedia, the guide is "written entirely in-universe." This is confirmed in both the latest issue of Star Wars Insider and the intro page of the encyclopedia itself.'
Originally posted by Star Wars LogicYou are just ADOARBLE.
FIRST you cant make a opinionated statement saying Ragnos killed 0 Jedi when you have no proof conserning that statement, and if you are one of those people that go by the ABSENCE of EVIDENCE is the EVIDENCE of ABSENCE then thats saying you have poor perception conserning undisclosed events in real life and about the series we are talking about now. Marka Ragnos's key plots and Important battles were not fully Detailed, but if you want to say Ragnos DIDNT defeat anyone Strong lets start with SIMUS, he was the previous Dark lord of the Sith before Ragnos and the Strongest One in his Time, AT LEAST BEFORE RAGNOS stepped into the picture, Ragnos fought SIMUS in a Sword duel NO HOLDS BARRED and the outcome for the end of that battle was Ragnos beheading SIMUS and bringing it back to the Dark Council as a example of his power and how little he needs to use it, and as for you SAYING HE KILLED NO JEDI? you have no proof of that as well, Marka Ragnos led RUTHLESS CAMPGAINS against HIS ENEMYS but WHO HIS ENEMYS WERE were NOT SPECIFIED, it was a METAPHORE saying Ragnos Killed ENEMYS of all kinds in his LIFETIME, that would include J.E.D.I.S but what J.E.D.I.S fell by his hand werent MENTIONED, Ragnos wouldnt have been able to continue as a Dark Lord Of The Sith if all he did was sit on the Throne killing any potential SITH THREATS.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Not any more I'm afraid. 🙁'According to Ian Ryan, lead writer of TOR Enyclopedia, the guide is "written entirely in-universe." This is confirmed in both the latest issue of Star Wars Insider and the intro page of the encyclopedia itself.'
I have noticed that many Star Wars authors refrain from officially ranking characters in terms of power by themselves. They leave this matter up to personal interpretation or convey their intentions by using in-universe approach.
Originally posted by Q99Yeah THE GREAT HYPERSPACE WAR was the FIRST TIME the SITH ever ATTACKED THE REPUBLIC. YOUR statement about THE Sith never having CONTACT with the Jedi before then is a unkowingly Contradiction, Because AJUNTA PALL was the first DARK LORD OF the Sith and Greatest Sith Blade Master and one of the FIRST to defect from the Jedi Ways, and after reaching the peak of his power he was slain by J.E.D.I DURING A ASSAULT, Meaning he was killing and going to war with Jedi before the time of Marka Ragnos, and MARKA RAGNOS is a descendant of the FIRST DARK JEDI DEFECTORS. your Satement about killing Sith Masters as a Common Standard was right But SIMUS was the most powerful in his TIME and yet got disposed of by Ragnos the first 3 minutes after the fight took place. and about VILIATE STAYING ON THE T.O.P? dont make me laugh, TRENBRAE trained under Ragnos as a Sith APPRENTICE which is how he learned how to TURN HIS ENEMYS AGAINST EACH OTHER and BREAK the WILL'S OF OTHERS, and already stated by Master Aren Kae Marka Ragnos knew how to Turn his enemys against each other. and after Trenbrae got his Sith Name Darth Viliate, Ragnos sent him on his way back to Naethema because he had no more use of him nor no more to train him, and as you already know Viliate is a POWER HUNGRY MANIPULATING WILL BREAKING dark lord and for one minute he still didnt attempt to Take the Golden Sith empire for himself instead Cowtowed in fear and obeyed. And if you read Marka Ragnos's B.I.O then you would already know that Viliate approached Ragnos while he was sitting on his Throne, attempted to break his will but failed, and RAGNOS replyed to the attempt with LAUGHER calling him a BRAVE YOUNG YOUTH.
Yes I can. There was zero Sith/Jedi contact at the time, the Hyperspace war was specifically noted to be first contact between the two and the Jedi had no knowledge of the Sith Empire.Ok, yea, beating your old boss is Sith standard-operating-procedure. It doesn't make one a stand-out of all time among them.
What we do know is- After defeating them all, taking over their territory, and consolidating Sith forces... those combined Sith forces were weak enough that they lost to the Republic under Naga Sadow about a year later.
So obviously, his raw military might wasn't the most threatening.
Sure, potential Sith threats... but you know what? Vitiate stayed on top against potential Sith threats for longer, and his potential Sith threats included badasses like Revan.
And taking out potential sith threats from within simply does not make one into one of the sith that were the largest threats of all time.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDAnd the Person who Made the Statement about Viliate being Stronger then any Sith before him was None other then Lord Scourge wasnt it, of COURSE a SITH PUPPET will call his PUPPET MASTER the GREATEST BEING in the UNIVERSE, if Not then he Will surely DIE. a Star Wars Creator didnt State That, Lord Scourge did Since his Will nearly got Broken upon looking at Darth Viliate's Eyes. And i realize how RIGHT i am Marka Ragnos Was defeated by NO ONE along with NAGA SADOW while there were ALIVE, VILIATE WAS DEFEATED BY 1 J.E.D.I K.N.I.G.H.T. AND besides WHEN IT COMES TO PHYSICAL PROWESS Naga Sadow will kill Viliate in the First 11 minutes, Remember Naga Sadow wielded a Blade that was So Tainted BY HIS SPIRIT, it counted as a uncurablle poison and once someone gets Cut by it, Dies 1 Hour Later
You realize that how wrong you are are?"At thirteen he presented himself to Marka Ragnos, the Lord of all Sith and the ruler of the Sith Council. Impressed by the teenager's ambition and power, Marka Ragnos granted him the title of Lord Vitiate. His position as ruler of Nathema officially recognized, Lord Vitiate returned to his home to conduct his research into the depths of the dark side’s power."
Just 13 years old, Vitiate impressed Marka Ragnos. And Ragnos' training wasn't enough; upon returning to Nathema, Vitiate further began to dig in to the Sith Lore.
Yes, Vitiate did not participated in global Sith politics during his rule over Nathema but he had his reasons for not doing so. He wasn't afraid of anybody. He was rather much smarter and patient then both Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh.
And even prior to gaining immortality, Vitiate became so powerful that he turned thousands of ancient Sith Lords in to his puppets/slaves when they arrived in Nathema, and used them for his personal gain. Not a single ancient Sith Lord managed to rebel/escape.
Ragnos seems like a joke in comparison to Vitiate. The latter is (canonically) a contendor for the spot of most powerful Sith Lord in history; competing with Plagueis and Sidious.
Naga Sadow performed this feat with Sith Sorcery. He was certainly proficient in Sith Sorcery.
But do you know that Vitiate once intiated Galaxy-busting Sith Sorcery? Yes, you heard this right; Galaxy-busting Sith Sorcery.
Sorry. Vitiate trumps Sadow in almost every aspect. Naga Sadow would not last longer then a second or two against Vitiate in personal combat.
Ragnos defeated Simus (who was the noblest ancient) and?
Naga Sadow was so powerful in the Force that he threw a small brick at Ludo Kressh to make a statement. Amazing. 🙄
Sure:
"Lord Vitiate sacrificed millions, stealing their life force to make himself immortal. Their deaths also made him stronger than any Sith who had come before, and he ceased to be known as Lord Vitiate. On that day, the Emperor was truly born."
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
your Satement about killing Sith Masters as a Common Standard was right But SIMUS was the most powerful in his TIME and yet got disposed of by Ragnos the first 3 minutes after the fight took place.
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
and about VILIATE STAYING ON THE T.O.P? dont make me laugh, TRENBRAE trained under Ragnos as a Sith APPRENTICE which is how he learned how to TURN HIS ENEMYS AGAINST EACH OTHER and BREAK the WILL'S OF OTHERS, and already stated by Master Aren Kae Marka Ragnos knew how to Turn his enemys against each other. and after Trenbrae got his Sith Name Darth Viliate, Ragnos sent him on his way back to Naethema because he had no more use of him nor no more to train him, and as you already know Viliate is a POWER HUNGRY MANIPULATING WILL BREAKING dark lord and for one minute he still didnt attempt to Take the Golden Sith empire for himself instead Cowtowed in fear and obeyed. And if you read Marka Ragnos's B.I.O then you would already know that Viliate approached Ragnos while he was sitting on his Throne, attempted to break his will but failed, and RAGNOS replyed to the attempt with LAUGHER calling him a BRAVE YOUNG YOUTH.
Ragnos acknowledged Vitiate as "one of the most powerful Sith he had ever met." And Vitiate was just 13 years old during this encounter. The latter (Vitiate) became far more powerful much later on.
You need to snap out of your Ragnos' worshipping.
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
And the Person who Made the Statement about Viliate being Stronger then any Sith before him was None other then Lord Scourge wasnt it, of COURSE a SITH PUPPET will call his PUPPET MASTER the GREATEST BEING in the UNIVERSE, if Not then he Will surely DIE. a Star Wars Creator didnt State That, Lord Scourge did Since his Will nearly got Broken upon looking at Darth Viliate's Eyes. And i realize how RIGHT i am Marka Ragnos Was defeated by NO ONE along with NAGA SADOW while there were ALIVE, VILIATE WAS DEFEATED BY 1 J.E.D.I K.N.I.G.H.T.
Also, Lord Scourge was far from being a pushover himself. He has killed hundreds of Sith in combat. Do not underestimate him.
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic And i realize how RIGHT i am Marka Ragnos Was defeated by NO ONE along with NAGA SADOW while there were ALIVE, VILIATE WAS DEFEATED BY 1 J.E.D.I K.N.I.G.H.T.
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
AND besides WHEN IT COMES TO PHYSICAL PROWESS Naga Sadow will kill Viliate in the First 11 minutes,
Powerhouses failed to touch Vitiate in combat. Sadow does not holds a candle in comparison.
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Remember Naga Sadow wielded a Blade that was So Tainted it counted as a uncurablle poison and once someone gets Cut by it Dies 1 Hour Later
Once again! Naga Sadow is much more noted for his proficiency in Sith Sorcery. He is far from being a powerhouse otherwise. The Sith during his time were much more in to Sith Sorcery rather then focusing on improving their understanding of the Force. This is why the Jedi had such an upperhand over the ancients.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDIM NOT WORSHIPPING a FICTIONAL CHARACTER, just stating who was The GREATEST DARK LORD OF THE Sith. and Since you just said read what i have posted, i have read everything EVERYONE has posted that went AGAINST MARKA RAGNOS and NAGA SADOW which is the REASON I REPLYED with FACTS, Read&LOOK UP what i Posted about BOTH MARKA RAGNOS and NAGA SADOW and "your" PROOF will be THERE. AND DARTH NYRISIS stated that from HER VIEW of How many ith SHE served BEFORE VILIATE, SHE was just another Puppet/Toy of the Dark Coucnil that later got disposed of by Revan, Puppet's opinions dont matter.
Simus was more noted for his nobility rather then prowess in combat.Please provide evidence of all the BS that you wrote here.
Ragnos acknowledged Vitiate as "one of the most powerful Sith he had ever met." And Vitiate was just 13 years old during this time. The latter (Vitiate) became [B]far more powerful
much later on.And read what I have posted. It may snap you out of your Ragnos' worshipping. [/B]
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
IM NOT WORSHIPPING a FICTIONAL CHARACTER, just stating who was The GREATEST DARK LORD OF THE Sith. and Since you just said read what i have posted, i have read everything EVERYONE has posted that went AGAINST MARKA RAGNOS and NAGA SADOW which is the REASON I REPLYED with FACTS, Read&LOOK UP what i Posted about BOTH MARKA RAGNOS and NAGA SADOW and "your" PROOF will be THERE. AND DARTH NYRISIS stated that from HER VIEW of How many ith SHE served BEFORE VILIATE, SHE was just another Puppet/Toy of the Dark Coucnil that later got disposed of by Revan, Puppet's opinions dont matter.
Also, I am CORRECTING you on several misconceptions that you have harbored about both Marka Ragnos and Naga Sadow. Your liking of these characters is your personal matter but your ridiculous arguments in their favor will get you nowhere but rather reduce your credibility.
Also, Darth Nyriss was no one's puppet. She was very cunning and powerful. And she was planning to eliminate Vitiate; she was this much independent.
And so what if Nyriss got disposed off by Revan? You think that Revan was a joke or something?